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Six-foot ham sandwich. Okay, that comes with a squirt. What do you mean comes with a squirt? We have the Italian squirt, the jalapeno squirt, the Parmesan oregano squirt, the roasted garlic squirt, the limited time yellow squirt, limited time seasonal pumpkin squirt, low-cal squirt, soy squirt, or a secret surprise squirt. I'll try the limited time yellow squirt, please.

That's nice.

Can I get a pound and a half of that, please? TBTL! I beg your pardon.

I beg your pardon. I'll try that again. A man has... Can we just go back to the very start of that?

Can you say apple?

Apple.

Can you say banana? You want a toe? I can get you a toe. Believe me. There are ways, dude. You don't want to know about it. Believe me. Yeah, but Walter. Hell, I can get you a toe by three o'clock this afternoon with nail polish. It's only a game. Why do you have to be mad? Is this how you conduct yourself in a democracy?

Alright, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. The words mean nothing. My name's Luke Burbank. I'm your host.

Oh, my God. Yeah, I mean it.

Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where there is this spit of land on the end of Cottonwood Island that I stare at, usually, while doing the show. It is underwater. That is how high the water level is in the mighty Columbia River right now because of this atmospheric river of rain that is still bedeviling us here. Didn't know you like to get wet, though. Causing all kinds of flooding in Washington State. Hope people are doing all right. It's also incredibly foggy here, too. We've got the fog. We're dealing with a lot of weather conditions. But as we always say, it's warm and dry here inside the Madrona Hill Studio, and the conditions are ideal for bringing you episode 4617 in a collector series let the fun begin uh quentin tarantino the film director uh said something unnecessarily mean about paul dano the actor and his performance and there will be blood and now people on the internet are coming for uh quentin tarantino this whole conversation bothers me uh it's getting uh feisty out there on the internet we don't usually talk about beefs but this one seems like it's in our wheelhouse it's quentin tarantino and it's the guy zachary woods the uh the actor from i think the office and other places um also philip rivers the new quarterback for the indianapolis colts we talked about him yesterday he's 44 years old he better stop being so stinking adorable he's gonna have me rooting for him and the Colts against the Seahawks this Sunday. He held a press conference yesterday. It was really something. We will play some of the tape on that. And it's a Thursday, aka a Blur's Day. So we wish a very happy, very soggy Blur's Day to people. And we'll also welcome to the program this soulful rocker from New Hampshire. He is the longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. And his media career is really finally in this fractured media environment he seems to have found a way to really connect with listeners and readers of the tbtl newsletter and i feel like his career is peaking at exactly the

right moment things are going to start happening to me now he's andrew walsh and he's joining me right now good morning my friend good morning luke you know i wasn't going to do this but But because of that very, very, I guess I would say generous introduction you just offered me, very, I guess, complimentary introduction, it did make me think of a voicemail that we got yesterday, which I think I'm going to play for you here at the top of the show. This is a format breaker. Dig it. Love it. This is a format breaker. And it's also, I hope that you...

I call this the stranger. I just like to mix it up sometimes, Andrew. 4,617 episodes into it.

I've been sitting on this voicemail for about 24 hours now. I seriously did hear this yesterday. And I warn you in advance, it is very complimentary to me. Now, not at your expense in any way, although it does feel a little bit weird for me to play this because it's so, well, you'll understand why I feel somewhat sheepish to play this, but it really did make my day and it really did make me laugh. Take a listen to this. And I don't think this... needs much setup but basically this is uh referring to my hesitation when i was new on tbtl and i was a long-time listener and fan of jen who was who was kind of stepping away from the mic for a while i was really reluctant for a long time even as the regular host on the show or co-host on the show to say and good luck to all at the end of the show it felt like i was stepping on toes it didn't seem like it was my role i got this voicemail from laura this is laura from tucson

arizona i wanted to respond to andrew saying that uh he felt like an interloper when he was first on the show um uh when i started listening uh to tbtl in 2019 i actually had come from spotless uh and i had found out about spotless from some like best podcast episode this week thing um i don't

remember where but which i have i have no recollection if spotless was ever listed in some sort of a podcast like roundup a recommendation roundup that is news that's pretty cool if that's

news to me but anyway um i don't remember where but um so i was listening to spotless and i was like oh i love this um and andrew mentioned he had another podcast tbtl and so um i somehow managed to start listening during a week where luke was was was absent um and so there were like some guest folks like phyllis um and when uh when luke came back i was like who's this guy on andrew's show um so i uh luke i i love you and i'm of course glad that you were on the show too um but uh yeah when i first started listening i was like this is andrew's show and there's also this luke guy here uh so andrew we're very glad you're here oh that's very sweet and luke i am

giving you permission to say... That was the most apropos

drop I could have ever introduced you with. Not only are things happening for you now, you're usurping the show right out from under me, and I'm

fine with it. You are allowed now to say no mountain too tall at the end of the show. I'm giving you permission. I hope you feel comfortable in that space. Anyway, I know that's very self-serving, but it really did make me laugh and blush, but thank you, Laura.

No, that's a really nice voicemail message, and I like hearing that, actually. Also, Andrew, nothing can hurt me today, because I have entered the, what would I call it, the bliss state of full charging cable singularity. Oh, because you have a new phone. I have a new phone, and it uses the USB-C.

No, say it like Huey Lewis.

Nirvana. That was going through my mind. You heard me stumbling around trying to think.

I got a new phone.

that story for new listeners for rookies was that one time uh happened to be having dinner in portland at the hotel deluxe in the driftwood room and huey lewis of the news was sitting next to us was going to be playing seattle the next night and said to his table mates as he stood up to leave the dinner yeah we're going to seattle tomorrow nirvana i was listening to a lot of

nirvana last night actually and i thought about how cliche it is i listen to nirvana so much less because I live in Seattle. I know if I lived in another city, I would listen to it more, but it feels so on the nose. But yesterday I was taking the E-line home.

It's like listening to Michael Stanley if you live in Cleveland.

That's right. You don't want to be caught doing that. And so I was blasting the album Bleach in my headphones on the bus on the way home last time. It just felt like the right thing to do. And I'm like, none of these people know I'm listening to something that seems cliche in these parts. Anyway, I'm sorry to interrupt. You got a new phone.

I got a new phone over the weekend, and it's an iPhone, But the main reason that I wanted to get a new phone was so that I could get on the same. Because everything is a USB-C now, pretty much. You know, most devices. I think that the reason this happened with Apple was because of the European Union. I think that they, because some places over there actually are running functional governments. They said, we can't have like one cell phone manufacturer that's got their own thing going on. And then literally everything else is on USB-C. You guys get with the program or we're not going to sell your iPhones over here. So they got with the program. But I still had the old kind. And what it meant was I was always grabbing the wrong little cable. And it would always start with one side of it would be like maybe USB or even USB-C on one side. And I'd go, oh, perfect. And then I would get to the other side and it would also be USB-C and it wouldn't go into my phone. Or I'd be trying to charge something that needed a USB-C. and it would be i'd have the light the whatever it's called lightning bolt cable it was just too it was too confusing there's too many uh opportunities for me to bring the wrong cable with me and i needed a kind of a unified field theory of this whole thing but there was one problem which was my airpods still charge using the old school lightning connector oh and i was was like well this stinks except what I realized is I have a charging pad in my bedroom on my nightstand and I can put the airpods on the charging stand and they charge overnight so that's now where the airpods get charged in the house I now if anybody needs one to 400 different old iPhone charging cables. I have them for you. I have now a little zipper bag that is literally like so many of those, like, you know, the ones that for the old kind of iPhone charging port that I had. And I don't know what to do with them, but I cannot bring myself to throw them out. And that's

literally a mixed bag, like you're describing, like you're going to have a kind of a ma... What's the word I'm looking for? Ma... I think I just had aphasia. I think I'm just making me. You have a ma. Genevieve had a bit of aphasia the other day. She just said two words that had nothing to do, neither word aligned with the words she was trying to say. Were you in conversation or did she just say them out loud? We were in conversation. I asked her about something. It was just a quick kind of news. I remember it was two words. I'm sorry that that's a bad story because I can't remember what it was. But she was like, what just happened? She's like, I didn't – neither one of those words were supposed to come out of my mouth. All of this is, so this bag that you have, though, it's going to be a whole – it's going to be literally a mixed bag of various combinations of one thing on one end.

Yeah, it's the catch-all for any cable that, honestly, I don't need anymore, but I can't bring myself to throw out in case I don't know. Well, I guess one thing is I still have my old iPhone. I was thinking about maybe trying to sell it on the dark web because I was told I could get up to $300 for it. but then I need to factory reset it. And I need to like go on Facebook or someplace where people sell cell phones. Then I need to make an appointment with, then I need to, someone's going to haggle. Then I'm going to have to go to a parking lot and give them the phone. It's like, I could also just keep the phone and heaven forbid I lose my new phone. I would have a backup phone that works, but then I would need charging cables for it.

A backup phone that would work. Does, yeah, I get a little bit confused with SIM cards though. If you've lost your other phone, would you be be able to activate the sim card on your old phone i don't think yeah i don't think

that they they didn't even take a sim card out of this phone oh okay i think that might have to do with apple versus maybe android stuff or something but yeah what they did was they put my new phone this was kind of kind of cute actually uh they put my new phone next to my old phone as they were transferring the um all of my information and the um the woman at the xfinity store placed them together so they were just kind of touching just kissing up against each other and i go does that make a difference and she goes it seems to go faster oh my god i thought i don't think

that's how any of this works but okay that's like that scene from the the chair company that i told you about he just takes his phone at one point and transfers files or i think photos from his phone by just tapping it on top of the screen on his laptop that show is so weird i can and i because i don't use apple products i wasn't sure if that's actually a thing that you guys can do over there on the apple side of things just tap but i looked it up and i don't think it is possible i think it was one of those things that they just threw into the through into the show i there is actually

some stuff on this phone that is it's taking me a while to learn about it but they do have one button that is so smart it's just a camera it's on the side of the phone and what it does is it's a dedicated button that just takes you right into camera mode oh okay yeah if i double click my button it does that i probably it probably was on my old phone in some capacity like that i just never knew about it but now i just have this dedicated button which is really smart because there's nothing worse than you want to take a picture of something and you're you're hunting around on your home page for the full the folder that has your camera in it you know you're right

i mean i keep my camera i don't know if you can see this i keep my camera app like on the front I have a bunch of pages of apps. I assume that yours are the same. But right on my main page, I always make sure that my camera app is right there. But you're right. Like the other day, I accidentally double-tapped, and it went into camera mode. And I was like, oh, come on. But you're right. I should do that more. Just all I have to do is double-tap that button, and here I am. I'm suddenly a photographer. I just took a photo of you. Good job. And you snapped to attention there. You're like, camera's out. I know what I need to do to your professional, media professional. Yeah, exactly. You know, I was going to mention something about my – oh, well, one thing is – so when I got my new phone, which is, I don't know, maybe six months ago, maybe more now, I – back in the day, sometimes they would take your phone. This is a marketing thing that I think is astounding. I can't remember which company Zoe Saldana uses.

I don't know, but it's a high-energy situation. It is. They're always making her yell in the commercials. I don't really feel like it's pointing to her strength as an actor.

The fact that I even said dude there is maybe not accidental because they also have Jeff Bridges reprising his sort of dude role in some of those.

And Zoe Saldana's husband, who I don't know if that person is an actor or not. I feel like they were throwing him a bone.

Yeah, that was very strange as well. And by the way, I am pausing here because this is something that came up on TBTL. I said Zoe Saldana because when I was – I've always heard it as Zoe Saldana. like you just said it and when i was maybe talking about this on after these messages i i was i don't know typing in her name or something and i realized there was a tilde i don't know if that's a proper name for it in this context but the the tilde the squiggly line over the end which would make you think that it's always sell danya and i'm like but i've never heard that before but a listener wrote in to say no it is pronounced zoe saldanya but you've not have you heard it i've never heard it said that right yet it's spelled doesn't sound very american to me well that that's a whole nother thing there right um but mike smith i guess i can't remember my original point but going back to what you were saying about her being high energy i there is something about commercials but specifically i feel like phone plan commercials that take people that i generally like yes and then make me dislike them i'm sure i've told you this before and i talk about it a lot but like it's another example like they used to have her in commercials where she was in, well, this, I guess, goes back to my original point. They were more low-key commercials. She was in, like, a T-Mobile store or whatever company she's ever in.

Yes, and she was wearing, for some reason, a very puffy jacket.

She was wearing a puffy jacket, but I didn't mind that. I thought that she was, like, I thought she was relatable. I generally just like her. I think she's just a relatable person, and she would make a joke. I think she was, like, saying, oh, I got it in here somewhere, and she was, like, taking out all her kids' toys or something out of her purse. It was like, you know, I'm not submitting it to the Cleos but it was generally but then they just keep ramping it up ramping up until she's grabbing the camera in other commercials and yelling and then then they put her in some sort of fake home situation with her husband who needs a chyron to explain who he is and then he's a

former professional soccer player and described as a producer director which sounds like he probably was allowed to produce some of his wife's films maybe he produced that commercial and then like

Jeff Bridges, who's clearly doing his dude character, like wearing a robe. But none of it makes any sense at all. And it makes you dislike all of it. It's what I have now dubbed the Middleditch problem, because they did that with Thomas Middleditch. Verizon did that to him. I'm like, oh, I like Thomas Middleditch. I have a good feeling when he comes on the screen. By the end of that campaign, I wanted him out of my life forever. And I feel bad saying that. Sorry, Thomas.

I was thinking today about That halcyon time When we had the I'm a Mac I'm a PC commercials Because tonight on Livewire Which by the way will be at Rev Hall In Portland tonight Probably see some folks down there John Hodgman is one of our guests Oh this is a legit thing If you live in the greater Portland area And if you are a big fan of Judge John Hodgman The show that John does with Jesse Thorne And if you bought some merch from that show, including they sell a candle, Andrew, that the scent is Justice. Oh, nice. It's a Justice-scented candle. I'm really trying to get my hands on one today, because I wanted to light it on stage and smell it with John Hodgman and kind of talk about the scent of Justice. But we can't seem to locate one. He's asking on Instagram, because they generally live with the MaxFun people somewhere in a warehouse. So, if you're hearing this, I mean, it would be pretty crazy if someone hears this in time, but if you're in the Portland area and you have uh judge john hodgman sent it justice candle please reach out to uh me via i don't know instagram or something and um i'll come get it from you and then but um and then send it to the supreme court yes uh uh but uh anyway where was i going with that something about uh i you know

can i finish my point which is just it was going back to this my cell phone dilemma here when i got my new phone it's my it's the first time it doesn't have like an what we call an aux jack or a headphone out jack a traditional one it just has the just the usbc for charging and then i guess i would get i guess you're just supposed to use bluetooth or you get some sort of a dongle situation so i saved my old phone and i only use it once every two weeks for one very specific audio need i have when doing the spotless podcast because i you know i only have so many inputs into my various computers and i just needed one more input just to play this audio track over music at the end of every episode which we only do every two weeks so once every two weeks i gotta charge up this guy which i was using regularly just a few months ago but now feels like some sort of relic from i don't know from some war i fought years ago it seems so beat up or whatever so i do I have

have kept this for that one particular reason but i guess what i was getting into with the marketing was back in the day i would get a new phone and they'd be like well do you want to trade in your old one for some money i'd be like sure are you gonna wipe it and they're like sure fine and then and then zoe saldana is doing these commercials where she's like i get to keep my old phone do you remember they were turning into this like selling point like we're not accepting your old phones anymore but they turned it as sort of and i was just like wait that was you guys invented all of these rules like it was just such a i was so flabbergasted by it it's like they have this whole campaign now it's like you get to keep your old phone and it's kind of like well you guys were just offering to take them before like i wasn't how was that suddenly a selling point like we're not gonna give you money for your old phone anymore aren't you happy it's like man they'll just

like market either side of that absolutely well that came up when i was getting my new phone and i was talking the other day about how like they're they basically have me under a contract that they refused to call a contract they gave me this allegedly seven hundred and twenty nine dollar iphone but they took four hundred dollars off of it but only if i agree to pay off the rest of it over the course of 32 months and if i don't then i owe them the four hundred dollars that they given me off which is what a contract is and the other part of it was she was like you could um trade in your phone and then we'll give you five hundred dollars off of this new phone um And then the guy This is why I like the Xfinity people But they're pretty chill The guy that was like the other worker there Was sitting over at his kind of workstation And he goes what kind of phone is it And I said it's like I think it was like an iPhone 10 or something And he goes oh yeah don't He goes sell that you can make $300 on that Like you can make $300 real dollars Or I could get $100 off And so I mean Really what I should have probably done is taken the $100 off Because I don't see myself I just laid out for you all of the hoops I have to jump through in order to sell my phone.

Yeah.

And probably what I'll end up doing is just hanging on to it forever and not getting even $100 for it.

Do you have somebody in your life who does that, though? Like for me, Genevieve loves selling things, right? So I have like this audio board that she's posting online and the various sites, whether it's – I don't think it's buy nothing. I think that's more of giving stuff away. But even that, like when we have something to get rid of,

Genevieve likes doing that doesn't your mom or somebody play around in that digital space of like not really if I need something returned that's when I call Becca she is the queen of the return girlies she does not like trying on clothes in the store and regularly buys things takes them home tries them on and only then decides if she likes the item or not Which is actually in this day and age

That's how people are buying clothes online So maybe it's not as crazy As it would sound back 10 years ago

I guess, I mean it still seems like Literally most text conversations are like Oh how's your day going? Good, I just was returning some stuff It's almost always like I was just at Nordstrom returning some stuff But she returns food By the way sometimes Like if she bought something

If it doesn't fit

this apple is supposed to be a size two um no but like like if she bought you know something and like you know it was like she bought fruit or something and it was you know she opens up the bag of cherries and there's a bunch of bad cherries in there or something she will take back food which is which is funny because that seems like a move my mom would pull doesn't seem like a move becca would pull but um hey she's you know she's smart with uh with a dime so um but no i don't have anyone in my life uh who is willing to like sell my old cell phones uh you know on the open market so it will probably end up just uh hanging around my life for the foreseeable future but there is something weird i cannot bring myself to throw out those cables because i feel like i don't know it just feels like i may need them again at some point so those will also just live with me for the rest of my life but this is the thing because i now have a way of charging my airpod cases and the airpods as well i now have a way of charging them just without having to use another cable for that it means the only cables in my house andrew anywhere are now usbc like this one here i just at my workstation i just thought of one thing that you might want to throw into

your go bag though because when you go on a long trip your ear buds are not i have to slow down when I say that word, your earbuds are not going to last. How long does a charge last? If you're on the road, you're going to need to charge them, and you're not taking your station, are you?

Well, you know what else is in the go bag? I have two little very cool charging batteries that are fully charged at all times that would also charge the AirPods.

But how do you connect those to the AirPods? That's my point. You need one of those.

AirPods would sit on them.

Oh, okay. So the battery does it as it's one of those contacts.

They're backups in case I'm somewhere where I... can't plug my phone in like if i was on a really long flight and the charger wasn't working or something i always have these two charge and they use usbc well that's what i was getting i thought

you were saying that you could just set it on top of those no no they do have to be plugged in but they use usbc oh they use usbc to charge themselves the battery needs to charge up okay but the battery can you through osmosis it can charge osmosis see i should get some of those i i remember when they first started coming out with those things for androids but they were at the time and this goes back a ways they were reportedly pretty slow but they must have gotten past that now so i should

get some of those in my life they're pretty the ones i have are pretty handy yeah and um have have saved my bacon uh more than once um so yeah i would recommend but those use usbc so you are looking at a feller and right okay is down to one cable to rule them all everywhere in my house it was i had this rat's nest of cables in my kitchen that was kind of in this area where i've got some cookbooks and things and you know and also you know i had it's just so funny how this technology just becomes so obsolete so quickly so i had plugged into there's a power outlet this is kind of at the countertop height in my kitchen there was a power outlet and what i had plugged into it was something that used to be absolutely top of the line which was something that would give you more outlets you know so it's like your standard like two outlets but you plug in this this plastic thing that has four outlets and two usb slots the original usb a i think it's technically yeah usb oh that's technically its name yeah usb a and when i remember buying those and thinking the future is now we will never exceed this technology and now i wouldn't piss on that now did you when you installed it angers me to look i would i wouldn't piss on you if you're on fire yeah i also i would probably get an electrical and also never in a place i'm trying not to get

electrical shots i don't know could help maybe could help yeah who knows maybe hurt you could find yourself couldn't be worse you could find yourself on mars what's the name of that character from Watchmen who finds himself on Mars after yeah oh doctor

acted by Billy Crudup

I believe is that true

he's like the naked guy right

yeah yeah he's naked and blue and bald the blue guy what's his name Dr. Manhattan thank you Dr. Manhattan yeah anyway that one was that one was for John Sklaroff he just docked both of our pay by the way tough but fair but uh oh shoot oh I was gonna say When you were installing your new outlets for your studio that you're in now and any other home reno, I remember briefly talking to you about this on the show. Were you tempted or did you end up putting in, you know, like permanent wall sockets that have some sort of USB?

No, because even then I think I had a sense things were – what I realized was – and this was kind of my philosophy of the whole house remodel was don't do anything that's too in style right now. because it will be out of style at some point and that includes like i mean i i'm hoping that we've now there we will peace will uh you know uh peace will ring through the land of charging ports and that we will we will um serve under the usbc regime for many years to come um but you know all things change and so i didn't want i didn't want to do that because i didn't want to have put in a bunch of things that were going to become obsolete now which yeah would have happened i guess that's unless i would have done usbc i guess see that's kind of the thing first of all i just

wrote a show title down just a possibility usbc your way out um i uh that's pretty good because usbc was it was wonderful when it came around and it became more universal but there was still there's still sort of a development since then which is we were all going from traditional i'll just call it traditional usb to usb c the the end that you're plugging into the power usually was still a regular big usb and then it would go to usb c on the other side but as i think you are i don't think you've said this today but are implying it is now it's usb c on both ends in some cases and i guess that's the ideal like coming and going it's all usb c but like you I had, so I had not a fancy bag, a Ziploc bag. Me and Walt were just using like Ziploc bags. This is why you have Bond's money and I don't. Yeah, that's right. Literally, I think the bag I was using said banana bread, no nuts on it for a while because it was a recycled bag from Pop-Up. But I had like just a whole bunch of these kind of cables in there. But there's still, I still have some devices that use what I think we call USB mini or mini USB, which was the one right before USB-C, you know, was sort of standardized. But certain headphones would need to be charged with it. Even my nice.

i've thrown all those into the river that's well somebody said like uh somebody put on bluetooth something that really stuck with somebody put on bluetooth somebody put on blue sky about a year ago and it really stuck with me because i saw myself in this so much and i felt so judged and so seen but not in a good way but somebody said if you're still if you're still hanging on to usb mini cables because you have devices that use it like you need to get rid of those devices this is on you now and i was like i know but this bose speaker is so good like i still have some things that held up you know that that like especially bose stuff is good but what am i gonna do with

this thing you know what uses usbc usb mini is i have my my home camera system which by the way

kind of sucks i would not recommend security systems security cameras and i you know i got

on this blink train and it i i'm not very happy with it all of the the cameras just periodically stop talking to the little there's a little black cube that has to be plugged in in my house at all times that is kind of the spiritual hub for this thing like it's not itself a camera so something to do with what the cameras are doing but unless i unplug it and replug it in about every week it just goes out of sync with the cameras and then like nothing's happening on the cameras and then to take the cameras down after like and they're all battery powered too so to take them down like either hard reset them or sometimes change the batteries just which kicks them into a gear and then they'll get them all working for like three or four days and then i'll go on my phone i'll be out of town i want to you know see if someone's been moving my pizza oven and uh and they'll be like this camera's offline this camera's offline it's not a very good system in my my experience but uh that little whatever that is that hub it needs a usb c so as long as i have this ding usb mini usb mini excuse me it needs a usb mini so that's kind of messing with me because i would just like to get to the point i would like to achieve total cord freedom which is to say i would like every device in my life to use usb c and i would like every power cube i have to only use usbc and then i never have to think about anything again for the rest of my life

so my life will finally make sense and then everything will be and then you get a yes coat hook all right next to that uses usbc uses usbc i need to ask you in a moment i have two things i need to get out of my system and one of them is asking you if you're disappointed into me about something so let's let's let's hold that one because i have a feeling that one will pique your interest it won't slide by the more boring or uh prosaic maybe um story i want to tell you is so i did have this big bag that might have said banana bread no nuts on it just had all of these kind of cables and at one point it was sort of more sorted out but let's like go over you have usb let's just call it like the regular usb to usbc regular usb to usb mini ones that are usbc on both ends and then some converters that we had and then I swear I have like a fourth kind of cable and they were all in this one bag but then I would sort of take out the good ones and put them in a separate bag and then I had sort of my own little version of a kind of a go bag if I was doing if I was traveling but especially traveling for work then I would have like a kind of a smaller set of these cables that I could just kind of grab the bag but it's never with me a real go bag because I still have to take inventory before I hit the road so anyway it was just a Mod Podge. And I got back, not to make it dark, but it was after my trip to Arizona when my mom died. And I remember coming back and unpacking all of my stuff. And it was like literally the night I got home was I unpacked. I'm very fastidious about that. Anytime I'm back from a trip, I'm so glad to be home that I open up my bag right away and I just start doing laundry. I do not go to bed that night until my suitcase is fully emptied and put away and everything is back in its place and i can move on with my life one of my least favorite tasks by the way for reasons i can't explain i don't i don't blame you for that at all but for me it's almost like it's almost like the feeling that folding clothes has like you some people you can see it as sort of an onerous task but then other times it just hits right because you're like this is what i'm doing right now and i'm putting on tv i'm gonna put on tv and i'm gonna do this and so i did all of that and then i was like you know what instead of just jamming all these cables that i brought with me on that trip back in this bag I'm sorting them all now and so I got more banana bread bags and just like I sorted them all out Genevieve is sitting there sitting on the couch as I'm taking up so much space on this couch just organizing every every single kind of cable is getting its own Ziploc bag oh and then another bag that is full of just the various I guess plugs that they can go into, the kind that can then go into the wall if you don't have one that's USB ready.

Do you remember the period of time when getting one of those that was associated with the device just felt like Christmas?

Yeah, and now they don't come with it anymore. They're just like, get your own damn plug. They come with cables, right?

Well, depending. I feel like I'm still – well, anyway, I don't want to – I bought this thermostat for my house the other day, and it came with – you can tell it's an international company because it came with not only a plug-in but then a European plug-in and another one. Oh, ooh-la-la. And that one, by the way, USB-C. but um but i remember back in the day when like you'd either buy like for me you'd buy one at the like apple store like the the highest the most elite level of the we'll call it the plug-in cube and then you know that would be like the good one that would be like you know when you got like a good pair of socks that come up in the rotation and you're like excited i'd have my good like 25 charging thing i got from the apple store but then sometimes when you'd buy something else you just get kind of a random one and to be like oh okay i'm i'm saving that you know and but those ones always seem like less good to me like i don't know if they were cheaper if they were less

effective but um or depending on the product but then you have another tier in there which maybe you never messed around with but like we have like three or four that i just dislike because they're super cheap i don't know if we were like on a road trip and had to buy an emergency one at a gas station or maybe genevieve just bought them off of amazon 10 years ago but they're the bad ones that come up in the rotation like yeah i think you work but i'll bet you you don't even

work that well yeah i the same with the cables like i remember there'd be some of those where it'd be like the bad one and then also the cable was fraying and just that is a that's a terrible combination that's just i'm not going to sleep well that night if that's somehow what's being used by me but anyway i'm very happy now looking around my house i got that rat's nest fixed in my kitchen um in my bedroom it's a you know i've got a that charging pad so i can just put the phone on that out here i've switched over andrew to usbc and it's um again my i feel myself calming down

even even as we are recording today all right now my question for you is if you're disappointed in me um did you and maybe you can just do this right now go to the tbtl home page and see the image that i used for the show pick actually you might be disappointed in the show pick the last two days Yesterday, I thought it was so funny. I just found a generic stock photo of some strawberry applesauce to use. I just thought that was funny. I know you wanted me to use Ursae's daughter, whose name I can't remember. But I just felt like having Rob Lowe in his NFL hat and then having her on the same page was a little bit much. But in between the Rob Lowe and the applesauce is a screenshot of the security cam footage that you sent me a couple of shows ago. The story was that your grill, I guess because of the wind, sort of mysteriously moved.

Well, not the grill, the pizza oven.

I'm sorry, the pizza oven, my mistake. The other outdoor cooking device had moved, and you were like, how did this happen? So you go to your cameras, your security cameras.

Which was actually working for once.

Which was working, but only in the mode where it kind of takes a snapshot every, what was it, five minutes or something like that? Whatever it is. Yeah, and so I had to kind of scroll through a video and then choose which screen cap to grab, and I grabbed one. Now, what is your reaction to the screen cap that I grabbed?

Well, I will say that when I saw this the other day, I did slightly wonder why you picked a screenshot that didn't have the pizza oven in it.

I knew it. I knew it. I was having that thought. Do you know why I chose one without the pizza oven in it? Why? because it was totally grainy it was a terrible photo it just looked like black and white blur but at least i am right to know that you had i just had a feeling like if i don't talk to luke about this he's gonna be like why did dude use a photo when the whole thing was about the pizza oven and you used a screen cap without the pizza oven it was because it was completely unusable explanation i was wondering about that because you notice how like this one is a nice it shows a nice kind of view off your porch and it's in color and you can see yeah at night it goes to black and white and it just didn't look like anything as a still shot it just sort of looked like a blob and i was like i'm gonna go with a nicer photo but it also i know sort of undermines the whole purpose of what i was supposed to be using the image but this is andrew why i feel

like i have such a a good time working with you and i mean this actually very seriously which is by the way i'll stop the tape i'll stop today is late we're celebrating andrew's birthday late yes there's all things in celebration of andrew but no you and i are like so aligned you could say codependent in our way of thinking about pretty much everything around this show that like the real thing i thought was oh i wonder why he didn't use the pizza oven photo there must have been a reason yeah you know what i mean it wasn't like andrew messed this up or or why did andrew do this thing that was like confusing to me it was like there's a reason because you and i are so similar in how we think about these things that i i i just i i intuited that you had made that decision I agreed with the reason you had made that decision.

Well, I am glad to hear that, because I did think that you might think, what, this idiot is missing the whole point of this thing.

No, I assumed there was a good reason, and you had a good reason. So it's also a bummer, because it's like a, I mean, you can just see, we are in that time of year where it is just crummy. Those clouds. Everything's just covered in water.

It is a beautiful, I mean, for a security footage, though, it's actually a very beautiful shot, though. I mean, it looks like, do you think that's early morning there?

my deck is just like moss covered now because it just never stops raining and like it's just that it's that time of year where everything is damp and and just kind of um you know spring is obviously so lovely everything is springing summer is kind of nice because you got the the blue sky winter can even be kind of lovely when you get some snow or something there's just this like everything just has a like a layer of slime on it season that we're in that i just i feel like is represented

it in this photo and i don't like it i think i forgot to take out the trash last night wait no no no no no no no no no i did it i did it i remember posting it to blue sky i'm sorry i don't know what you said oh i was looking out my window and thinking about how terrible the weather is and then i was like the show i that was one of the worst feelings i've

ever i lost you for a second i was looking at the photo of my deck and complaining about how it looks really wet and but i could hear i wasn't looking at you but i could literally sense a disturbance yes your brain waves i was literally about to ask you can we stop down we got to take

a break now we'll thank the the contributors when we get back i gotta go take out the garbage but no no the garbage is out there the garbage truck is that no you were talking about the weather and so i looked out my window instinctively and i was like oh is it raining right now because like basically for the past four days i've seen nothing but water dripping off of this one little

banister that you guys don't have any flooding issues anymore like everything that sump pump is

doing its job you're checking i mean as i told somebody the other day this is like i never thought i'd be a middle-aged man checking the sump pump every two hours but here we are actually that's what i said i think it was on blue skies but life comes at you fast but um i uh and so i i'm i i'm hopeful like so far everything has been fine but you're hearing about a lot of flooding i mean in other areas in the skagit region you're hearing about people actually having to evacuate like it's no laughing matter but for us it's just kind of like boy just will the sump pump hold but i am really shocked that when our basement flooded two winters ago and the sump pump stopped working i thought and some listeners who know more about sump pumps than i do even more about sump pumps than i do said listen not to be a bummer but once your sump pump fails you once it's going to fail you again like it's on its way out but that must have been i mean again knock on wood and anything out knock on microphones um that might have been a bit of a one-off because genevieve unplugged it and plugged it back in standing in ankle deep water of course and it started working again two years ago and it has not given up on us yet but this this week is the big test because we are not out of the woods yet right this is going to continue for at least another 24 48 hours

i out here where i am supposedly today will be the worst of it and then tomorrow it's going to be partly only partly rainy there I learned something a while ago and then I unlearned it and I'm trying to relearn it which is I used to think when you would see like 80 percent chance of rain or you see 80 percent in the day that that means that there's an 80 percent chance that it will rain but I think it actually means something else right doesn't it mean that 80 percent of the day will

involve rain or something that you know what I'm talking yes I know exactly what you're talking about and i had trouble getting my head around it at the time and i still am having trouble getting my head around it because it just doesn't seem right and what we learned was that is if it's an 80 percent chance of rain it's not it's definitely going to rain but it's an 80 percent chance it's going to happen in your area is that what it was it was some twist on it that we had never realized before are you looking it up now as i'm just buying you time let's see here uh yeah and well

Well, this is, okay, well, here's what AI says. An 80% chance of rain means there is an 80% probability that measurable rainfall will occur at your specific location during the forecast period. It does not mean it will rain for 80% of the day or that 80% of the area will see rain. It also implies there's a 20% chance of staying dry. Okay, so, I see.

I think that's different than what we were.

Well, I think maybe what I thought was, maybe I used to think that 80% chance of rain meant 80% of the day will be raining.

Oh, I don't think. i don't remember that coming up really okay that's never what i thought it meant i thought the big revelation was i always thought it meant well there's a 30 chance just like i don't know what's what's the i needed to learn this before i go to vegas what's the spinning game the spinning disc and the ball game spinning disc and the ball game oh roulette roulette Okay, thank you. I need a few more notes for you. I want you to enter the casino going,

sir, take me to your highest limit spinning disc ball game.

Like in that proto, I think you should leave sketch. I'm ruined! Lady Luck. Anyway, I think I always thought it meant, you know, just like what is the percent chance it's going to rain in the Cleveland area, right, or something like that. And then I thought, I thought what we had learned was, no, if it says like 80% chance of rain, it means it's definitely going to rain somewhere and there's an 80% chance it's going to fall in your particular area. But maybe I'm just messing that up. I don't know, man.

I think that my understanding of it or my misunderstanding of it for most of my life was that 80% chance of rain meant 80% of the day was going to be raining. Okay. And it means 80% chance of measurable rainfall. Okay. Which, again, to me, is not as useful of information as if you can tell me how much of the day is going to be rainy. Because 80% chance of rain, meaning there's an 80% chance measurable precipitation will fall. Okay, is that one hour of the day? Is it going to, like, downpour and then be done? Is it going to be, like, a tiny misting all day long? Like, the information that I really need is, like, am I going to be able to get out and, like I did yesterday, put up Christmas lights? Which, by the way, absolutely a thankless job. I'm never doing that again.

Oh, you did it instead?

I did some of it, and I got completely drenched, and it's fine, but now I'm going to have to also take them down.

It's just the bottom half of a Santa. You're just like, I only did half.

You know, but what would be useful to me would be, and there are obviously all kinds of weather models now, and I'm sure I can get this information, so please don't at me, people. I also still can't get into my email from here, so. But I feel like it, for me, what I really.

Can you just reset your password? Like, I forgot my password. Can't you just reset your password? Like, when you told me it's because it's not aligned with your fingerprint, I'm like, okay, well, I don't use that technology to log into websites. I just use that technology to log into my computer. So you have something whiz-bang going on over there. But you can still just type in your password. I'm guessing you forgot your password. Can't you just go through the process, I forgot my password, and then give it a new one, like AndrewRocks102?

It really is your birthday.

Well, you've already used it 101 times. That's right.

Well, you know what? So annoying about the whole thing is that I can get into my TBTL account on my other computer.

Oh, so you don't want to.

That's what's weird about it. You'd think these things would not be dependent on the machine, because this all lives in the air now. You know what I mean? These machines are merely a way that we connect with all of this information that's being kept in the ether. But for some reason, on my little—I have a separate laptop that I carry around inside my house, and I'm going to take down to Revolution Hall tonight to do LiveWire. That one I can get into my TBTL email fine.

Well, but passwords don't follow from device to device. Like the first time I log – you know, if I get logged out of my – any of my Gmail accounts on my phone, I would have to log back in.

I don't understand it, but what I know is I was emailing – Just reset your password. I didn't reset my password. My fingerprint – somehow my other computer – I know that this doesn't make any sense, but I'm just telling you what happened yesterday. I tried to log in here on the computer that I'm using to talk to you, and it kept locking me out. It kept telling me I had the wrong password. I went into my house later and I got my other computer and I put my finger I went to gmail.com I selected luke at tbtl.net I put my fingerprint on the fingerprint pad and I was and I was a mom on the net I was in my tbtl email account so I don't understand why it works on one computer and not the other something to do with I don't know just forget about your fingerprint for now

that's what I'm saying like the fingerprint sounds like hey that sounds like a pretty convenient thing to use once you get it all set up but essentially all that's doing is unlocking probably your pass key or whatever yeah like you just need to you can always just type in a password to log into something and if one device has logged you out and it's not working to log in you can just type in your password right we all know that yeah but i don't know

what the password is and then when i try to choose one i always try to choose the same one and they tell me it can't be your old password we want us to pick a strong password for you and i go yes

but then it's a oh you let it pick it for you oh yeah i know that that's the safe thing to do but But then it's like, oh, semicolon, colon, one, exclamation point. Yeah, you're never remembering that.

So you have to then hope that that information gets spread across all your devices with the new – that there's a new kid in town. Whereas – I don't want to give away too much of your workplace secrets. But the alternative is to have a whole series of passwords like you do, I believe, kept on Post-it notes in various places, right? So you kind of know what you're dealing with.

I might have had a master.

Have you upgraded that system?

Oh, I do have one master password sort of written down here underneath my computer. But no, I have LastPass, which is a very convenient. Oh, slick.

We can pay for it now so we can use it across devices, and so it's really helpful. But I don't do the thing where it offers to autofill it for you because it will be a series of characters that I'll never remember. My device is I have a bunch of – yeah, I don't want to say too much about it, but I have sort of a system in my head for creating new passwords that are all still sort of part of the same family, if that makes sense. And I sort of break it down like, well, financial stuff, I use this. I have one login password that I use for anything that's television related. If we're setting up a new HBO account, Netflix, Hulu, those all have the same password, which I know is not ideal, but I'm also not giving Hulu a bunch of my personal information. So I just sort of have like various things. But the thing that really saves me these days is just having LastPass. And as long as I can get into LastPass on any device, I'm good.

yeah my problem is years and years ago i had two different kind of go-to password things that i had that i had designed that they would fit all the criteria of you know one symbol and one uppercase and one and so that was very easy but then they started getting this well you you can't use the same password again so then i was always using some weird bastardized version of it and i could never remember which one i was on like i'd added three exclamation points or like you know and every device and everything i'm logging into would be like a slightly different version of you know this it was like a game of telephone yeah so what you know and then i could never remember so then i just at some point started letting it pick for me but that problem is i the problem with that is there is no universe in which i will ever enter that information uh successfully out of my own brain yeah it's secure but it's secure from everybody including you including me yeah primarily it's secure from me which is an issue yeah yeah absolutely i was

just thinking i wonder what spotify is going to label this chapter of our podcast because we're talking about how spotify will use ai and it just occurred to me i think spotify has stopped listening right now we should just play some copyright music we beat the machine usa usa cable management difference between usbc and usba uh what does percent of i give up i give up you

don't pay me enough for this smoke just coming out of the top of the computer we may have burned out spotify andrew but we have not amazingly burned out our listeners and specifically our donors these folks who i'm about to tell you about are donating money to this show They are making TBTL happen with their donation. It is the only way that this thing can exist. Thanks to folks like Julie Upton, who's out there in Lake Forest Park, Washington.

Hey, hey. Thank you, Julie.

Hope you're not too close to any kind of a creek or river out there, Julie, because I know that it's wet times here in the Pacific Northwest. Christopher Morrow is in Seattle, Washington. Christopher knows exactly what we're talking about. Yes, absolutely.

Sees it every day. Hey, while we're just in the part of the show where I do everything possible to make it unlistenable, I'm looking back at our notes from yesterday. Did we only thank five donors yesterday? Usually it's a six-donor deal, and it looks like I maybe—

Did I forget to finish the list?

No, it wouldn't be on you because the fact that we're starting with Julie today would mean that I may have sent you a shortened list yesterday. This is so uninteresting and unimportant.

I thanked Julie Upton very quickly yesterday at the end, and Julie's getting two thanks.

I mean, first of all, we can't thank Julie enough, quite literally. Oh, you know what? We might have done that. Yeah, or, yeah, you know what? I still think it was. Because I remember saying Lake Forest Park yesterday. Yes. This is on me, though. I think I just didn't mark Julie as red. So you know what I'm going to do? This is the first time in TBTL. I put a little marker down as to what date we thanked people, so we have a record of it. This is the first time in history that somebody has been thanked twice, officially on the list. Julie Upton thanked twice. I love this. I love this for her, and I love this for us.

We've also got to thank Christopher Morrow of Seattle, Washington. See, he just got thanked twice, too. Nice. I already thanked him.

Now I'm thanking him again. How do I mark that, then?

Well, now we've got to do it for Mike Piacchatelli in Gig Harbor, Washington. We've also got to thank Mike Piacchatelli of Gig Harbor, Washington.

Oh, God, you're messing up. Now there are two of them, Spider-Man. There's smoke coming out of me now.

I know. Elise Pugh. Oh, you know what? at least we're going to break the cycle here with that's right well now i'm saying at least his name again so we're going to break the cycle with the next person we're thanking elise pew of brooksville florida that was one and a half times i said elise's name twice but brooksville florida well

now i've said that twice we have to go back to january we got or wait hold on last january

thanks also samantha hartman of missoula montana thank you samantha i love missoula

montana that is such a fun town i want to get back to missoula montana that sounds like a song i want to get back to missoula montana that's uh i always mention this that's where walt did his last two years of high school at hellgate high in missoula montana hellgate stay away from the gates of hell yeah mantha i care i mean it named for a like a geological thing hellgate i think it's a canyon in the area but um a hell of a name for a high school i always say you know yeah like you're It's really playing into the stereotype. Yes, yes.

Hey, kids, have fun at Hellgate.

Hey, and then look who's up next. It's our pal Sarah Sund in Boise, Idaho, up there on the bench.

That's right. I've podcasted from Sarah's driveway, as have you.

That's right. Sarah, thank you so much. Thank you to all of our donors. Thanks for making TBTL possible. We could not do this thing without you. hello and welcome to top story all right maybe we talk about um the uh the tarantino thing tomorrow if we still want to it's just kind of a kind of a weird story uh tarantino dano but i do also want to just tell you andrew that philip rivers is absolutely charming me to a degree now he's this This guy who was in the NFL for a long time and was retired for many years at this point. He's 44 years old, was coaching high school football, I think, in, like, Alabama, and has now been tapped to come off the bench and try to help the— Whoops, excuse me. Right this second. My bad. Sorry about that. Stop. I hate trying to play audio from TikTok or Instagram. It's the absolute worst. I was trying to cue that up.

Instagram is especially bad.

Oh, God, they all just really suck. Uh, I mentioned yesterday that Philip Rivers, um, if I was anybody in anywhere else in the nation, well, particularly if I was in Indianapolis, but if I was, um, anybody just with a passing interest in this game, I am a hundred percent rooting for Philip Rivers. It's a crazy story that this guy at 44 years old is going to go out and try to play in the NFL this week at quarterback too. I mean, it's a pretty critical position and I don't like this because I feel like, again, I'm almost rooting for him I was thinking last night about ways in which Philip Rivers can have an amazing game but the Seahawks can still win like that's the that to me would be the best outcome like I'm not but it's like again this is such an intriguing plot line I mean this sort of rarely happens to this degree where somebody is just you know like most of the time somebody might come back but they've been training like they've been keeping their body crazy fit they've been working with you know a coach they've just been waiting for their chance to get back in there is no indication that that has been philip rivers's experience over the course of the last whatever it's been four years the first thing he said when he came out to do his press conference was how excited he was to not be on zoom because the last time he did a press conference it was the pandemic i feel like a childlike enthusiasm of the fact that this was in real life he hasn't been in a press conference in real life in years wow which is which is charming and then as i mentioned and i don't want to body shame philip rivers but i mentioned yesterday philip rivers he looks like a guy who's been coaching high school football for the last four years he does not look like a person who has been like you know running hills or doing that thing they do where they like keep tipping a tire over a lot for some reason and this was remarked on by a reporter i don't know how easy this is going to be able to hear but the reporter is asking philip rivers i think kind of off mic what are you weighing right now philip and philip rivers hamster what do you weigh right now right this second um i'm not sure greg

how about that that's an honest answer

so he is he just with this big grin on his face i'm sorry that audio really didn't pay off but he just with his big old smile on his face on his let's be honest cherubic face he just goes uh i'm not sure greg like he first of all he remembers the reporter because philip rivers ended his career with the indianapolis colts yeah i was just looking at that i didn't know that i

I was going to say, I always think of him as a Charger. Yeah, he's a Charger.

A San Diego Charger, by the way. Sorry, respect to our listeners in San Diego.

Both, according to what I'm looking at. I think he bridged the gap, maybe.

But I think them being the L.A. Chargers is a miscarriage of justice. I see.

No, no, okay, I'm on board with that. And then, so I guess he just played with the Colts for that one year, that 2020 season? Because I heard them on the radio saying yesterday.

He probably threw, if I had to guess, he probably threw for 7,000 yards and 700 interceptions. That was always the stat line on Phillip Rivers.

Probably. And also usually the last year of these guys is not like their best year. But I did hear on the radio that they were just saying, well, I guess the one thing is they just really like him because he knows the system. And by the way, one other little piece of a tidbit. I don't know if you had heard. this as well but apparently there was some conversation about like well who approached whom about this deal and it was philip rivers apparently who needed more convincing so in other words it sounds like the team approached him and he was like i don't know you guys but then ended up uh being won over by the team uh that would be incredible the feeling i have

watching him is that this fell out of the sky into his lap now maybe that's maybe he's just trying to maybe being the new indianapolis colts quarterback is sort of like you know george washington being president you have to act like you don't want it or something you know you have to act like oh please i would never but um so maybe he was doing a little lobbying behind the seeds but he he certainly appears to be a guy who is just like absolutely giddy about getting to do this uh he's also he's a they keep calling him a grandfather in all of the headlines grandfather their QB and I had me thinking I wonder how unusual that is for NFL players to be grandfathers I guess kind of unusual I mean he has a famously a huge family he's got like seven kids or something crazy um so he probably started having kids kind of young and then one of his kids has a kid so he is a grandfather but I guess that's also something that's fairly unique yeah I would guess so I mean

is there I think we would have heard by this point in the news cycle if it was the first ever right

there's probably some old kicker or somebody i mean if you just google y.a. tittle halftime and tell me that guy was and tell me that guy wasn't a grandfather there's just famously this picture of the quarterback y.a. tittle uh who is uh has blood running down the side of his face he looks conservatively like he's 75 years old oh my gosh so um anyway but all of this is to say i'm trying to figure out a universe well well first of all i'm also getting a little bit worried about his he said his wife was a bit concerned about his physical safety i mean that's you mentioned this yesterday but like they are if he ends up playing he is going up against a very formidable defense in the seattle seahawks and and i don't want them to tackle him super hard because i don't know if he would survive yeah i know you know it's like again i i i want there to somehow be a universe where what you know what i don't want to have happen this is so crazy because is so against my interest as a Seahawks fan what I don't want to have happen is for him to go out there and just get absolutely smoked the first time he drops back and he gets up and he looks foolish and we will realize like you can't let 44 year old granddads play quarterback in this league it can't happen like I don't want that outcome even though for the Seahawks that would be a good outcome it would mean that we are getting to the quarterback but like I don't want the Colts to beat us, but I also don't want Philip Rivers to be like Aslan being taken to the stone table or something, you know? Right.

Now, as of lunchtime...

And yes, that means he's Jesus in this allegory.

I kind of forgot about that part for a second there, but of course, yeah, Aslan... Pretty depressing as a kid when they take Aslan to the stone table, tell you what. He comes back stronger, I guess. Anyway, I was going to say what? Oh, as of my lunchtime yesterday when i was listening to my just you know local am radio i guess we haven't had confirmation that he's actually starting this no weekend we do not have he could he could be sitting for a week to continue to maybe get into shape or whatever they did you know they brought him officially into the team but we don't know that he's starting this weekend but apparently the seahawks are ready for any eventuality so it's a possibility it's kind of a bummer too not

to get into the x's and o's but like there was a period of time when i had this game circled on the calendar because the Colts were like seven and one or seven and oh or something and being touted as maybe one of the best teams in the league and the Seahawks were kind of ascendant and I thought oh wow this is going to be you know this is gonna be a big day and it's you know of course I hope we win the game but it's a little anticlimactic when the team comes in as happened to us in the Minnesota Vikings when they come in with their like fifth option at quarterback then it's like hey you better win yes you know that would be the worst case scenario he comes

in and somehow beats us oh my god i don't even want to sorry well yeah exactly i hope that doesn't

happen but it's also not it's it's not very fun uh or it's less fun to to beat a team when they're sort of down or when they've had you know their their main quarterback go out um uh i guess i'm hoping that we win this game uh and it's not too stressful on the seahawks so that they can then marshal their energy for thursday night against the rams because that is a biggie that's huge and the rams do have matt stafford who's also in uh i think fine health so anyway i'm just like again i'm i rarely find myself identifying this strongly with a player who is a linchpin for the other team potentially beating my team again that's if he ends up playing and like again i i just wish they were playing someone that wasn't the seahawks that's what it is i wish they were playing anyone else because i would be fully team philip rivers yeah right i know No, and it is sort of weird. Well, I know it was you who said this. I was going to quote the AM radio again, but it was you who said this. You're like, everybody except for Seahawks fans would be rooting for him. Yes. And the Colts, of course. Of course.

It's so fun. It's so much more fun if he comes in and just, like, just has the game of his life. I mean, also conditioning. Now, I don't know. Quarterback is a little different than, you know, being a defensive lineman or even a receiver. I guess you're not, like, running so much, ideally, certainly not if you're Phillip Rivers. but like i mean just what's the conditioning on this like if they put him in can he play a whole series i mean they believe that he can like i guess maybe if he just drops back five steps hits his back foot and throws that ball you know he's capable of that but anything else you know would be you know what would be i would give i would give indianapolis the game honestly i would just say we will we will we'll give you the win on this if the first play from scrimmage is a naked bootleg just you just send philip rivers he's defenceless like it's a it's a play action fake to the right it's student body right and then with the ball going left philip 44 year old grandfather philip rivers unblocked just go like naked boot one of that would be one of his legs

is a wheel what if it's like just wood like a pirate would have a dog with one of those back

wheel cards a designed run play for philip rivers first play of the game shane steichen your move love it i would love to see that i would love to turn this game into just an experiment of what happens with a 44 year old man his his his uh has a or even an rpo just a run pass option although i'll tell you what his option there is pass get rid of the ball as quickly as possible

Do we have time for a little bit of, I would say, quasi-batshit Jim Harbaugh tape? I mean, batshit Jim Harbaugh tape, there's a high watermark for that, right? Absolutely.

Have you looked at the clock lately, my friend? We're in the Badlands, buddy.

You know, I haven't looked at the clock, but I will say that Bingo just came in here and sat down and looked at you because he didn't understand why you weren't his birds video.

Thank God Bingo is keeping us on schedule.

Yes. He's like, it's time for my birds. Anyway, when Jim Harbaugh, who's been a head coach for a long time and returned to the NFL, I'm going to say maybe three seasons ago or something. He's now he's with the Chargers now. And they beat they beat the Kansas City Chiefs. Right. Yeah. This Sunday. And it was a huge, huge game. It was that Sunday night football, too. Is that why? I feel like I watched Monday night football. OK, maybe. Yeah. So it was like kind of a really just big game. It was a big win. And the sort of headline after it is somebody says, like, how would you rank this? And the press conference with Crazy Jim, they're like, how would you rank this? And the sort of headline is that he's like he compares it to like the birth. He says it ranks with like the birth of his children and marriage and everything, which I think is funny. But I also think and I'm hoping this is the long tape. I haven't previewed this. I just heard it played on the radio yesterday. it's also just so rambly and crazy and he just starts bringing up things that he never wraps up and again this is coming from me i hear it i hear it but i i did think i'm hoping this is the

right tape oh well i've been a lot of teams uh and uh this is definitely i don't maybe the best best feeling uh you know just a wonderful wonderful feeling of winning and and thrill of victory it's certainly in the discussion i put in the discussion uh the birth of my seven children uh my marriage uh you know in the conversation in the conversation just joyful uh joyous and uh you know the biblical definition of that is just overflowing with with uh with joy

i wish it got i must have heard a full minute cut of it because it's actually to me what was interesting was how he then couldn't everybody just thinks it's funny and it is funny you know I'm comparing and he's having a good time and I'm glad actually I kind of hate this guy but I was actually kind of his joy was sort of infectious honestly but the next 30 seconds which I can't find he just keeps going and just starts like sort of saying words it is like this beautiful it's like magnetic poetry it's just like it's just sort of random word salad and also he says the biblical definition of joy is joy which is sort of

interesting I think he says overflowing I think he's trying to say overflowing with isn't there something overflowing with joy though isn't there something that's i think this is more supposedly financial but in the bible there's something about your cup will be pressed down shaken out and overflowing or something with um with with sort of um i guess you could say a material joy with getting things it has to do i wonder if that's the part of the bible is talking about tithing it's like if you tithe 10 then you're Thank you.

cup's going to be overflowing who knows like i know i that's i'm the same way with harbaugh like i think his politics are probably lousy and i think he's probably got some you know just got some takes that i don't have but also he is i mean with the whole khakis thing yeah back when he was coaching san francisco he is a character which i do kind of like there was also a period of time where one of his daughters was just making videos of him in the airport putting the home depot theme under him at all times oh i didn't know about that weird shit that he would do because he's like just he's a very in motion person so it was like him walking like 10 steps ahead of the whole family as they're going to the flight to whatever and him doing stretching exercises at the like in the waiting area him just doing real kind of like dad stuff and her just documenting him and then putting the i mean that was a trend you know a lot of people were putting like their dad like filming their dads and then putting the home depot theme under them but it's pretty funny but it seems like his kids like him which i'm you know generally a fan

And that he's cool with that, you know what I mean?

Yeah, he seems like he's a bit in on that joke there where he's kind of talking about ranking this game. I mean, the thing must kind of suck to be the Chargers in that position because really the story is, oh, wow, the Chiefs aren't going to the playoffs. Like, the Chiefs losing is a bigger story than the Chargers winning. It's like, what has happened to Patrick? I had to explain this to Walt the other night. He's like, what happened to Patrick Mahomes? I was like, well, it has to do with the salary cap. If you pay Patrick Mahomes, you can't pay all the other guys enough. And so you then have to surround him with substandard players, and this happens. It's amazing they've been able to pull it off as long as they did because you just can't have one of the highest-paid quarterbacks in the league and then surround him with other really highly-paid good players. Somewhere, something's got to give.

It is funny, though, while we're just in the Badlands. We do have to get to the Blurs days. Don't forget, we do have that. But while we're in the Badlands, I will just say, though, it also just seems like something that happened with the chiefs was the ball figuratively always figuratively and sometimes literally always bounced their way and especially if the calls you know like and this has been a conversation in the national media to our listeners in kansas city sure absolutely do we have any i can't think of any listeners in kansas city who are like sports fans or anything like that but um but you know like it did just sort of seem like calls were always going their way from the officials uh and non-calls going their way and then ball you know And just so many luck types of things. And then, yeah, I know I was watching or at least partially watching this game this weekend. And like they doinked one off of the uprights, you know, and it's just like in the back of the day, their luck was always the wind was always at their back and luck was always with them. And it's like everything has turned. I think you're right, though. The more logical thing is just kind of like that is the one thing about parity in the NFL and the salary caps as well. things are going to eventually maybe your balloon is maybe going to eventually come back down to earth a little bit which is generally a good thing but it does also just sort of seem like they're they're not getting the breaks from the universe and the official the officials that they

used to i couldn't believe that harrison butker who does have genuinely terrible god he's allowed

to start a a political pack as an nfl player but i'll bet you if his politics were different there might have been a rule against creating political packs well what i know is that he won

me so much money during the super bowl because he doinked in the super bowl and i had a side bet that there would be a doink oh he and then he doinked again the other night yeah can i ask you

a question because i play a little handheld video game on my phone and it's a football game and it says doink whether it doinks in or doinks out and is a doink always a doink or is a doink only a doink if it doesn't make it through i know that's a lot of d's we just got spotify back It's like, okay, I want to transcribe this.

Spotify just came back online and then immediately left the room. It walked in and it went, what?

Hey, Grandpa Simpson does.

Andrew, that is a great question. I've only associated it with, you know, you hit the upright and then, of course, physics does its thing. And that means it is a missed kick. But also, I have seen plenty of kicks where it kind of hits the inside of the upright and continues going. and that could technically also be called a doink. I've only associated a doink with a bad outcome, but the other one you might call a deflection. Is there a difference between a deflection and a doink?

Oh, first of all, do you know about the double doink? Oh, yeah, I do know about the double doink. A missed kick by Cody Parquet in a 2018 playoff game.

He was a Chicago Bear, right?

I don't know. I'm just learning about this now. When you type in doink, the first thing that comes up is double doink, actually.

Yeah, it, like, bounced twice and then bounced on the bottom and then fell out. Oh, wow. Wow. And it was the game ending.

it was the wild card game in 2018 wow that is that is rough that just triggered a lot of our listeners including our friend televisions yes and i want to apologize this is not a week to be triggering bears fans either although he took that so well yeah andrew because what happened was he and i were texting a little bit i was at the xfinity store watching it with my close friends And by the way, the double doink, I'm watching it again It doinked off the upright And then the crossbar And then came out I mean, just absolutely brutal But as far as the game on Sunday That the Bears lost on the last second play Unfortunately for them I was texting with Chris And then when that happened Because it was an interception by Caleb Williams That ended the game And that's just a tough way for the game to end And I was like, I'm not reaching out I'm not going to do anything You know how it is It's like, I'm going to give this person some space. And by the way, if you're curious, if you are a sports fan, if you love sports fans, and something very bad has happened for their team, just give them some space. That's all. Just give them some space. You can't go wrong with giving people some space. You can go wrong with a lot of other things. A joke. A why is everyone so sad? There's a lot of things that can go wrong. One thing that will never go wrong, give them some space. Yes. So that's what I was doing with our buddy Chris. And then he reached out to me and said, you know, this was like three seconds after the interception. He said, you know what? I we played them really well. That was a really good game by us, which is true. And and I'm OK with that. And I thought that was a great you know, that was a really great opinion on his part. And it was true. It's like you played the Green Bay Packers, a really good team to essentially a tie almost on the road. Like that's great for the Chicago Bears. And it's a bummer how it ended. But he was keeping a positive outlook.

I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that.

There's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll. You can't just listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one. You can't be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can't be nothing but one.

Ooh, I was ready for a dog bark. I was ready for a dog bark, and you gave me a cha-ching sound. Yeah, a cash register. It is time for some Blur's Days. If you would like to wish somebody, including yourself, a happy birthday, email me. My address is andrew at tbtl.net. Put Blur's Day in the subject line and write a short little message. Yes, to the one you love. Emphasis on short little message. Yes, we had to stop down for a little bit as I edited some of these things. But we got this one from L, who says, Happy Golden Blur's Day. Oh, my gosh. By the way, look for I think we have a historic Blur's Day segment today, by the way. Keep an eye out for a recurring pattern. L says, Happy Golden Blur's Day to my partner, Danielle, Phoenix area attorney and OG 10 with TBTL T-shirts and ball caps for every day of the week. She's turning 51 and is the best person I know She makes me better because I never want to disappoint her And her laugh can make your day I love that, by the way She makes me better because I never want to disappoint her I understand that sentiment I think people in our lives make us better Sometimes even if we don't want to be

Yeah, something to aspire to

Yeah, absolutely Happy Blurzy, Danny judah says hi i'm writing an email about my mom's birthday on the 11th her name is emma and she listens from ardmore pa ardmore pa wow it's gonna be a tough one for me to get through here luke i just when you write it i say it really don't have a lot of autonomy here i'm gonna say something i don't want to say here but judah's making me say it okay judah says this message is from her son who wants to say that she should have a happy birthday and that she's a fart smeller and a smart fella. Whoa. I didn't want to say that. I didn't want to say that, but I hope you have a good Blurs Day, Emma. John from Chicago says, I'd like to wish a golden... There's still laughing about that. I know, it was pretty... I mean, the crowd was into it. There's no denying that the crowd was into that one. Yes. So this is from John in Chicago. who says, I'd like to wish a golden Blur's Day to myself. I'm turning the big 4-0. And I'd like to thank the co-bros for being my big bros as we all get a little bit older. I look forward to another 5,383 episodes to keep me company until we reach episode 10,000.

Oh, my God. Let's get to 5,000. Yeah, let's talk, and then we'll talk.

Let's reassess 5,000.

Let's ask Spotify how it feels about this situation. Happy Golden Blurs Day to Brenda from Amy.

I wish I could sense a theme, Andrew.

I'm telling you, there's a theme in here somewhere.

I'm bad with this stuff. You know that.

I know. I know. Just keep your ear tuned to the listening station. And to my favorite co-worker, without us, I'm pretty sure this place would fall apart. Your humor keeps me sane, and your thoughtfulness makes all the difference. Thanks for making work not just manageable, but actually fun. That's to Brenda from Amy. Aw. Or as I put in my notes here, to Brenda. But I think that's Brenda. Corrected for the record. We now thanked Brenda twice. All right, let's see here. Back in that stuff. And Jay says, today is my husband Stefan's golden blurs day. This year has been a huge test for us with my industry under intense budget cuts. Through it all, Stefan stuck by my side, helping me prep for job interviews, reminding me of my worth and keeping me sane. Everyone deserves a Stefan in their life. Happy birthday to my little dumper. Aw, little dumper.

Little dumper. Cute. Did you see the Seattle Mariners were the most internet-searched baseball team of 2025? Did you see that headline?

I saw the headline. I did not read it, but it made sense to me.

It sounds like a difficult data point to know.

Yeah, well, first of all, I think there's always a little bit of err in that. But it would make sort of sense because it's a team that's doing well, but it's also a team that most people don't know that much about. And then you have this guy who's competing for MVP, and they don't know who he is. And his nickname is related to his posterior. So, like, I can understand why that would be more Googled than even just, say, a heavyweight team like the Dodgers. Right, right.

We already know everything about Aaron Judge. Yes, exactly.

You know too much about him. And finally, Chris says, I'd like to wish a very happy Blur's Day to the kindest and most lovely woman I know, my girl and dedicated 10, Aaron. 2025 has been a tough one as Erin has been recovering from a brutal skiing injury that left her ankle broken in four places. But Erin is already back in the gym, riding bikes, walking, and just bowled her personal best. A 225. My goodness. Holy smokes. He smokes indeed. You know what? You're a bowler. I haven't bowled in a long time.

Hard rain hasn't been out there? No. Bowling in a long time?

Not snow. It's been over a year now. But I remember there was a time where I was like, I guess I'll never bowl again because of that arthritis. But now I can bowl, and I should bowl. Anyway, Chris says she's as tough as she is sweet, and I'm amazed by her positive attitude and caring nature towards humanity. So happy Blur's Day, Emma. Sorry about that tough, tough injury, but glad to hear you're doing well.

Yes, exactly. Happy Blur's Day.

Happy Blur's Day. So that's going to wrap it up. But we did have a lot of golden blurs today. They weren't all golden blurs, but let's see here. one two three so and just to remind me i got this six golden blurs is it's actually your birthday

on the thursday we're doing it that's what makes it a golden blurs day if it's when rod blagojevich

wishes you happy blurs day that's this thing is freaking gold i don't know why i can't remember anybody's name i'm gonna give this away i cannot remember the name of the woman from eyes wide shut and from our favorite name. But Rod Blagojevich lives.

But Rod Blagojevich. It's that Midwest Polish kind of a thing.

Right there for me at any moment. So anyway a Golden Blur's Day to answer your question Luke is when you are, when your birthday actually falls on a Thursday when we're reading it. That's what it means in our context. A Golden Birthday is something different that's when you're like, you turn 23 on the 23rd or you turn your 24th birthday. He talks about being born May 8th. That happened before I even knew it was a thing.

And I'll never get it back, Andrew, no matter how much cord blood I drink.

Pardon me. You just made me sick. You need more cord blood. Yeah, I don't know if I – 27, you know, mine was on the 27th. But I don't know that I knew what a Golden Blur's Day was. I don't think I knew what a Golden Blur's Day was until I moved to Seattle because I did this weird, goofy kind of radio documentary about my friend's Golden Blur's Day. And I don't think I'd heard the term before that. And I know I moved to Seattle when I was in my 30s.

Maybe it's something that we're more focused on out here in the West. I don't know.

Had you heard it? You grew up with it?

I don't think I grew up with it. But I didn't grow up in a big birthday culture. It's weird. Oh, yeah. That's not true. I mean, you know, it was very, like, you know, it was a very... happy birthday and everything but it wasn't like I don't know we just didn't go crazy on our birthdays I wasn't we didn't have big parties where we had a bunch of kids over and there was party favors and stuff it was usually pretty there would be a cake that was made there would be a present that was given and we called it good

you know I was trying to formulate some sort of joke about well what if your birthday is on the 90th and you don't make it it was just the idea of a joke that fell apart but it did make me think about our friend broadcast Barry who did miss a birthday because of international travel one year that's wild do you remember this did we talk about this on the show he was flying maybe back from Australia I can't remember how the time zones would work there but something happened where he basically like he got on a plane before his birthday and he landed after it I feel like you would like that

that'd be fine with me I mean yeah you could just go to sleep like that drop we play from Veep I just want to go to sleep the day before my birthday. And then wake up?

No. No, not wake up. My birthday was very much, Genevieve got me a little gift. Actually, you know what Genevieve got me for my birthday this year? She got me the first and so far only Josh Naylor baseball card in a Mariner's uniform. It's one of those.

Oh, that's cool.

Yeah, it's like a Topps Now, I think. There's some sort of a line of Topps cards that are almost immediate, like after a game. I don't know if they're all games, but it's like a rush printing, and it's always a limited release or something.

I want a baseball card of Josh Naylor not wearing the celebratory T-shirt.

Yes, I know.

After winning the whatever, AL West.

Yeah, I do have a shirt that I wear as my Tonight shirt right now is Josh Naylor-esque in that it kind of hangs down almost to my knees. It's like a big button-down shirt that hangs real low. I like it.

We've got to get you that candlestick. I know. so that you could wander around your house like that shirt intended. Anyway, all right, everybody, that is going to do it for today's episode, but we've got another one coming your way tomorrow, Big Friday edition of the program, so please join us for that. In the meantime, everybody have a great Thursday. Hope you're not getting flooded out wherever you are, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. What's your question?

How much milk do I have to drink to be big enough to be quarterback?

Drink as much milk as your little belly can hold. At all times, drink as much as your little belly can hold.

Power out.