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I read poetry and sonnets, and he plays the upright bass. Yama kipiebo, sedere fakebo, in dog Latin, he quotes. Yuje, soffice, hooray! Well, he bit all the he-dogs and winked at all the she-dogs. The town never knew such a hullabaloo as that little dog raised till the end of that day. we just have a good rhythm together you know he sort of feels me out i feel him out and uh we go

for it tbtl you're hungry you're confused your face is streaked with dry tears and you don't

even remember when you started crying in 1971 bill greats invented microsoft wouldn't it be cool If I can remember my dingus password from my email. I'm the king of the castle, and you're the dirty rascal. Crash into me. Crash into me. Ladies and gentlemen, congratulations. This plan is off to a great start.

Well, all right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Two bros. Bro, hit it up. My name's Luke Burbank. I am your host.

i like to party do you like to party coming to you from the madrona hill studio perched high

above the mighty columbia here on january the first of 2026 we made it folks we made it to the new year hope you all had a a fun uh either relaxing quiet or maybe not so relaxing time last night whatever was you were looking for i've had a few a few what a few small beers Because we've got to now focus up and get ready for episode 4,633 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. As we launch into 2026.

Things are going to start happening to me now.

And we couldn't do that, of course, without our trusted companion on this voyage. The longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. New year, new Andrew. I'm not a man, I'm a turtle. He is Andrew Wells, and he is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Happy New Year.

Thank you. Happy New Year. By this time next year, I will be a turtle. That is my New Year's resolution. I'm going to be a turtle.

I can see on the riverside that the procedures are working.

It's just it's very slow at first. I don't want it to happen all at once because I don't want people to just be shocked at my new appearance when they realize that I am a turtle. I want to talk to you for a second here about the beginning of the show. We just heard that famous Kim Cattrall scatting tape. We hadn't heard that in a while. We used to be obsessed with that. That's from some sort of a profile of her from 60 Minutes or some sort of national TV program. And it's just like her in her home. This is what me and my husband do. And I think ex-husband at this point, I believe. But there's one thing that, you know how people, sometimes I get a little bit irritated. when somebody will write in to kind of correct us on something with a bit of a sharp pen, if you will. Someone would be sharp with us, as if, like, how did you not know this, that you were wrong about this fact? And it's like, well, because you live in that world and you're an expert in that world, Luke and I talk about a whole bunch of different things. Like, I can't know everything about everything. Some mistakes we make are stupid and I feel embarrassed. Other times I'm like, you're nitpicking here. Yet, I do that with another podcast that also apparently has become obsessed with that tape. And it's one of Scott Aukerman's podcasts. I can't remember which one it is. It's one of the more chatty ones, not Comedy Bang Bang. And a couple of times recently, I've heard him playing that tape. And him and or his guests keep on saying how she's just like spitting nonsense and just making words up. And you and I know that she is not making those words up. Those are words from a poem that she's scatting that she did not write. And clearly the TV producers kind of edited it in a way So there's kind of two different verses sort of mashed together there But it always drives me crazy when somebody plays that tape And it's like, oh, she's just making that up And I'm like, no, she's not making it up That is obviously a poem by Rupert Brooke That came out in 1925 I have no idea when it came out But anyway, so I fall victim of the same thing When you have a little bit of knowledge And you hear somebody on a podcast get it wrong it's really hard not to be offended it's also a a really strange poem to want to scat

he fought with the he dog so by the way she's already that i've got the real lyrics of a little dog's day by the by rupert brook brook yeah so she says he bit all the he dogs and winked at all the she dogs so she's already slightly changing the words because his the words of his poem are he fought with the he dogs yeah and winked at the she dogs a thing that had never been heard of before uh and for the town never knew such a hullabaloo as that little dog raised until the end of that day yes i don't want to be mean to rupert brooke you don't that it isn't a poem that would in dog latin he quoth uge sophos hooray it's humorous it doesn't of all of the also it raises the question because I'm trying to remember from the original tape now this could be on the editors of the TV interview and not Kim Cattrall but does she say in the tape I'm the sense that we get as the viewer the sense that I had as the viewer for a long time was she's improvising she doesn't say I'm going to perform a poem by Rupert Brooke Don't you think that the way it's set up It sounds like she's just going to be free jazz And free jamming off the top of her dome

I don't think they specify And so I sort of feel like We as humans we hear that kind of music And we assume that it's her own words Well I hear something that's that bad And I assume this could not have been planned And I do definitely think that it is the producers Who decided to make an edit between two verses So if you're taking issue also with the fact that she's combining two different parts of the poem and making it sound like it's together. I do think that that is part of the editing process on the TV side. By the way, this poem is from 1907. You were pretty close. Yeah, I put it in the 20s, I think, but it's almost like how we talk, and I think we did this recently, we talk about how back in the day candy wasn't as good probably, but it was all they had, so people liked it. I feel like this is the humorous poem of the early 1900s. Like, well, this is all they had. This is the blackstrap molasses?

Yes, this is the Turkish delight.

Boy, would you like some penny molasses candy?

This is the Turkish delight of poetry.

Would you like to gather around and hear this ribald tale? He fought with the he-dogs and winked at the she-dogs, a thing that had never been heard before. For the stigma of gluttony, I care not a button. He cried and he ate all he could swallow and more.

What do we know about him as a poet, by the way?

Well, I'm going to say, I'm going to assume good intentions on the part of Kim Cattrall in that she said to the film crew, this is a poem by another guy that I just like to scat with. And they cut that out because of timing or something. Whereas Donald Trump's lawsuit against 60 Minutes had absolutely no merit because his issue was, allegedly, was that they edited... Basically what they did is they took tape of Kamala Harris and they edited it down so it could be in the promo.

Yeah, it was a promo issue, right?

It was the promo, and then later in the interview, they played a longer clip of her, a less edited clip. But this is standard in the news biz. Of course. You don't always, like, you say, coming up, so-and-so talks about this. And you don't play two minutes of them talking about it. You play a clip of them. This was used as a way to sue CBS, and it was successful because of all of the sort of specific issues of our current media landscape meanwhile I think Kim Cattrall might have a lawsuit with the producers of this piece if she copped to the fact that this was a Rupert Brooke poem and they cut that out it makes her look kind

of bad I'm looking to see do you think this was actually CBS I don't know for some reason

I keep seeing it as in my mind I think it's 60 minutes but who knows it could have been

Well, I'm looking now at the actual video of it, and it doesn't have a watermark. You know how often a—wouldn't a 16 minutes probably have the watermark in the bottom corner? Well, I wonder, do you see the correspondent, the person who's being scat to? No, it looks like this is just like a 42-second clip, which I pulled the original audio from. I'm going to continue. This will be the full focus of the rest of the show for me.

Is it Connie Chung? Oh, is it Connie Chung asking Kim Cattrall if she can jump over an office chair and she says it depends on how big it is?

I think that's exactly—oh, look, yeah, here it is. It's posted on the Earwolf Reddit, in fact, because Scott Aukerman talks about it so much. I'm sick of him stealing our—he did a—didn't he do a 24-hour podcast or something? You know the worst when he does it before we do it? Yeah, that's the worst kind of fact, when he does it first. It is funny that that podcast, if you go back to Comedy Bang Bang, it launched around the same time as TBTL. And just a reminder to the listeners, I was not around for the launch of TBTL, so this isn't like a personal beef of mine, but it's interesting how, well, first of all, that show evolved a heck ton over the years, but it's much more of a performative showcase than what we're doing here, which is more of a chat thing. But it is funny how if I go back and I listen to the archives, which I was doing a few years ago, the the broad rhythms of like kind of the like the. things in culture that he and his guests latched on to back then there are so many parallels to the stuff that you and jen were doing at the same exact time interesting yeah just kind of like the the i don't know whatever it's kind of early you know not not early internet but kind of early meme culture early cultural internet kind of stuff but that's not what we're doing today

can we my friend talk lists yeah let's talk lists today now what's going on with i'm looking at the show sheet which you've put together and thank you for doing that by the way I appreciate it and it says Andrew lets Luke pick and as we always say on the show you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose so if that's what you want me to do I can't do it

but you can use their bidet and that can shoot water up your friends we asked that you would alright so yeah here's what I decided to do because we still have a bunch of lists that people have gone through but you and I are not going to continue this project into next week so that means and i think um tomorrow i think we might have nick jarn on the show so if we do a list uh it might be something that maybe he comes up with if that works out we're trying to figure that out but um for today since this is probably the last listener generated list we're going to go through for this particular project i wanted I wanted to protect the listeners and us from ourselves which is I don't want to hurt any feeling I want to double blind this I'm just going to give you a list of lists and you can choose which list we do but I'm not going to tell you who submitted them because some of them were submitted by your brother and we have heard from him recently some were from other listeners some are emails, some are voicemails I'm not going to tell you if they're voicemails or emails I'm just going to tell you the subject and you choose which one you want to go through okay so i have two of these are very tempting to me and i've listened to them and so don't worry about them hurting your feelings or anything but we have one that is top five tbtl segments that i miss and we have one that is top five ways to listen to tbtl so if you want to start the year kind of already staring at our navels those would be two choices but we also have some other really interesting things we have top five low level stakes adult fears oh so like things that we face in adulthood but they're low level um we have one that is top five types of recipes to have in your repertoire so like things that you were just like ready to do for various occasions whip it out and then also this listener then lists what their choice for each of those types of recipes are if that makes sense uh top five showers that we can take that sounds like something you'd love um we have uh top five sicko coffees top five hot dogs and i don't think these are listing types of coffees or types of hot dogs but places and experiences you're having them um did we not already do coffees maybe not i think i just listened to that um and i think that's basically those would be our main choices do you remember them do you want me to reset them? I think I like

the low-stakes adult fears. Okay.

Congratulations to... I think that's what I would pick. We're going to do that in a moment, but I want to say congratulations to listener Jamie in Mississippi, I believe.

Hey, it's our friend Jamie in Mississippi.

And that is an email, so I will go through that with you, but should we start by thanking some donors first, then come back around to this?

Hey, let's thank some of those donors. These, along with a lot of listener suggestion and content creation this week, we also get money from these listeners. It's amazing. It is an incredible thing. And I sometimes marvel at the fact that it's actually working, but it is. This is 100% listener-supported podcasting, supported by listeners like Michael Plastina of Morgantown, West Virginia. Hey, hey. Thank you, Michael. Go Mountaineers.

absolutely love your logos

they once had a guy I think named on their basketball team named Kevin Pitsnoggle really that's a great name yeah I was like that's a hell of a name for a West Virginia Mountaineer absolutely didn't they also have didn't the 80s didn't they have what's his name Major Harris was there a guy named Major Harris that was a West Virginia Mountaineer maybe he was either their quarterback for a really, really good running back. You're not thinking of Major Dad, are you? Oh, I am. I'm sorry. I'm thinking of Gerald McCraney from Major Dad.

You're thinking of Major Dad. Nice pull, by the way.

Major Harris, West Virginia. Let's see. Major Harris, American football player, quarterback at West Virginia in the 1980s. You know what else is good about the... Still got it. You know what else works for me about... the Mountaineers. I love a team that is named after an occupation. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm a big fan of the 49ers. Not to get into my actual fan base and who I root for, but the Green Bay Packers, the 49ers, the things that are based on what people did, the economy. I'm a big fan of economies.

I'm a big fan of Mafio Appiah Patti, who's in Alexandria, Virginia and is another donor today. Thanks, Mafio.

Mafio. Look at that. We have a West Virginia and a Virginia. Please be East Virginia next. East Virginia. Come on. Come on, East Virginia. Please, please, please be East Virginia.

But you know what, Andrew? If it's not going to be East Virginia, I'm glad it's Truckee, California, which is where Carolyn Rose is.

Oh, nice. Truckee. Is that named after the trucking industry? Is that another? It is. It is. Yes.

That's where it all started. Truckee, California. It's where they invented trucks. Great. Thank you, Carolyn. Ivan Chabra is in San Francisco, California. Hey. It's our pal Ivan in SF. Thank you. Ivan went to school with our friend P. Fletch. Indeed. And I don't know if Phyllis turned Ivan onto the program or just found out, I think maybe the story was found out at some part of the journey that her friend Ivan also listens to TBTL.

Yeah, that's my understanding of it. Maybe Ivan turned Phyllis onto it.

It's possible. I think I turned Phyllis on to it When I got very inebriated During a PRPD event And was walking around with a megaphone Yelling at people And talking about Stern on the bus Phyllis and I on the bus talking Stern I think that might have been what sold her on TBT

Alright well then I guess we're going to be spending more money On megaphones this year If that's how we get listeners

There's nothing more fun than being Decently inebriated And carrying one of those tiny megaphones around And just using it whenever you need to

I think I'd need to be inebriated to call that kind of attention to myself.

I know, I know. By the way, I say there's nothing more fun for the person doing it and nothing less fun for everyone else. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Phyllis, but thank you, Ivan. Yes. Also, thanks to Lars Lang-Peterson in Seattle, Washington.

Nice. Thank you, Lars. Appreciate that.

What up, Lars? And then look who it is. It's Noel Kelly in Sligo, Ireland. Oh, wow. That's real.

Aaron go brah. I mean, my very first bar that I ever went to in Boston was a cool Irish bar called Sligo.

Oh, you had an Irish bar in Boston? Yeah.

It was a very old school, very long, narrow, just like old men drinking at the bar kind of place and a lot of smoke. I think it was one of the last places in Massachusetts to finally throw away their ashtrays, honestly. It's Sligo.

And Noelle's last name, Kelly, that's my mom's maiden name, Susie Kelly. That's the name on my birth certificate. Noelle, we have this—potentially, I don't know how long you've had the last name Kelly, but potentially we have the last name, my friend. Wow. You guys— On our birth certificate. Do you think you're related? You're probably related. You got to know. Noelle, bad news. We can never date. We're brother and sister. Well, maybe that's good news. Or, let's be honest, probably good news. Hey, good news. Probably good news. Good good news. All right, thank you so much to our donors. We couldn't do this without you. hello and welcome to top story all right let's hear from our dear friend jamie down there in mississippi with some low stakes adult fears yeah i'm hitting uh this is

called city lights oh wow this is a little sultry but anyway we're gonna go with this for uh for

some audio spackle here this is the bookstore that launched the career of lawrence ferling

yeah i think so i've seen the best minds of my generation uh all right i don't know that's not lauren's from lighetti um all right so same same crew yes exactly all right uh jamie sent this in this is kind of a short list might be able to get through a couple today if you wanted to but we got this one so this is in no particular order and i'm trying to figure there's literally no numbers and so i'm trying to figure out to read it from the bottom up or the the top down but let's do this um i'm gonna choose which one of these low stakes adult fears is the most severe and i will make that the last one okay yeah okay here we go number five according to me and jamie producing this together is seeing your name on a meeting agenda to make a presentation during the meeting oh i wouldn't call that low stakes no i call that high stakes maybe i did this in the wrong order But the other one that I'm going to end with is also pretty scary. I don't know that I've had this experience. I'm trying to think of the closest thing I've had to being unprepared to present something. It probably happened at 8 p.m. maybe. I would get so nervous on those Zoom calls.

just telling somebody recently a friend of mine who's like I think maybe nervous about about a presentation she was going to give I was saying that like it was amazing during our time at APM where I would do an entire episode of TBTL with you I'd go 90 minutes or two hours talking into this exact microphone to you and putting the show on on the internet so that thousands of people could listen to it and never being nervous about it and then one half hour later dialing into a zoom call with a bunch of colleagues that are maybe in the dozens and shaking and sweating my way through any meeting that i had to talk for like 30 seconds in it was amazing zoom especially i think is worse than even doing it in person i was gonna say first of all peace and love

but it wasn't the most socially lugubrious crew on the call and this is also the part where i

google lugubrious and i'm this is the part where i'm going to ask you luke how are we feeling today hold up how many fingers if you're feeling really good hold up four fingers if you're having a bad day just hold up one finger that was how some of our team leaders our bosses would start these meetings and i was like to borrow a phrase from the valley gales gag me with a spoon i am happy

to report that i literally use lugubrious in the opposite manner than what it should have been I said they were not the most lugubrious They were the most lugubrious Looking or sounding sad and dismal

Oh, okay Alright, add that to your list It was an awkward vibe

It was an awkward vibe in those meetings It was that kind of thing Where it's the pandemic And it's just like A lot of that happy chat A lot of that sort of managers Who are a few tiers above us And don't really know what's going on with us and honestly probably don't care but also want to be like i'm just you know i'm always here my my door is always open except when it's closed yeah and then you can open it and that's that's like that was the vibe in those meetings not from everybody we have made some lifelong friends yes at apm so it's not everybody on it but it wasn't conducive it wasn't a relaxed environment even though they were trying so hard to be like what do you mean we're all just friends we just hang out here it's a totally relaxed environment it's like yeah that's not really how it feels so yeah I want to give you a little credit that that was not a fun meeting to talk in for any of us.

Number four, if we're going with my numbering system here, of top five low-stakes adult fears from listener Jamie in Mississippi is forgetting to do today's Wordle until after midnight. So once midnight strikes, the new Wordle's up. You've missed out. i've i don't think i've ever forgot i forgot to do wordle maybe once or twice during that really really busy summer when we were transferring actually out of apm into starting our own business and like and doing a live show to kind of cap it all off like that was an incredible and that fundraiser our very first fundraiser and so i do remember missing wordle once then that was the only time i ever missed it but i will say a couple of weeks ago luke I was doing the new Wordle at like One in the morning And I was a little turnt up And I broke my streak Because I was an idiot I was an absolute idiot Don't drink in Wordle Dude I totally did a drunk Wordle And it was like This is weeks ago now Maybe about two weeks ago The final word was grass And I had a bunch of the letters right I think I had G-R-A ironically if you had been smoking less yeah right I put grays I had one more thing why would it be gray I'm just admitting I was like why would it be grays and I put grays in there and I'm like what the that's not a good word and no it wasn't a good word it was stupid I should have put the phone down and finished it in the morning but it was also theater but it was also theater it was grass grass makes so much more nobody's pluralizing gray

It's interesting to me First of all, Becca did, I don't know, a month or two ago Just literally forget And that broke a pretty long streak She hasn't been right That's way worse than losing But also, it's interesting to me Obviously, doing Wordle is a happy place for you You enjoy it And so maybe when you've had a couple of adult beverages And you're just kind of in that mode It's like your brain then wants to seek out The enjoyment of doing the Wordle Which I find actually quite charming But then you're right There is a danger because you are not at your absolute most sort of aware. You're not your sharpest, and you might get into a graze when you want to get into the grass, as Hugh Masekela. You're grazing the grass, bro. You're Masekeling it. What does that mean? Hugh Masekela, Grazing the Grass. I don't know what that means. Oh, you know that song. I don't know.

Are you saying an artist's name and then grazing the grass?

Yeah, Hugh Masekela is an artist, and he did a great song called Grazing the Grass, which is just funny because you said graze when it should have been grass, and here it's going to get us pulled down again, but here's a little Hugh Masekela. Oh! Okay. But this is called Grazing the Grass? Grazing the Grass.

Oh, I know this song. Of course. I mean an all-timer, right? I mean, of course I know this song. How have I never thought to – I think I get this confused with another song that is an instrumental of the same era and same type that is – and now I'm blanking. It's a band that we would quote a lot. It shouldn't be this hard to come up with. I'm just going to let it go. I'm going to release Desire on this. But Booker T and the MGs. Oh, yeah, Green Onions. I think I always assumed that that was Booker T and the MGs.

Right. I can see that, too. And green onions also starts with G, grazing the grass.

And does it begin with a cowbell like that, too? No, no, no. Here's green onions. Oh, this is very different. This is very different.

But what a vibe, dude.

I love this. Let me hear grazing the grass again. Let me hear this. Here, I'll do that. I'll do that when you let this one.

Okay, let's do a mashup.

Let's do a back and forth. Okay. I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

Let's get our money's worth if we're getting pulled down in half of Europe.

Yes, exactly. This is how we get pulled out of the United States, just based on taste. Okay, could you stop that, and could you start it from the beginning when I tell you to? And I want to get this right. Okay, I'm queued up here. Are you queued up? Yep, you tell me when. Okay, I'm going to go three, two, one, go, but I'm going to hit mine a second later because we're in a slight delay. So here we go. You tell me. So go and go. Three, not that one, though. This one that's coming up. Okay, you ready? Okay, here we go. Three, two, one, go.

Actually, what I'm hearing, the cowbell, for a second, the cowbell worked

Oh, this is perfect Now it's turning into the color brown

We just brought out too many crayons

We brought out too many crayons

It's becoming an audio mashup

Speaking of weird sounds, let's go to number three on this list Your phone makes a sound in a quiet place, especially an appropriate podcast going off or a dumb ringtone. So you're in church, let's say, or at the Nutcracker or a book reading or maybe where was I? I was in a restaurant the other day and I hit play on something on my phone and started coming out the speaker instead of my headphones. And I was like, oh, no, oh, no, no. And I turned it down really quickly, only to have the guy next to me end up like 10 minutes later, turn on his phone and just like watch TV at full volume on his phone for like a half hour. I was so mad. I almost got up and moved to a different place.

Somebody heard 0.5 seconds of comedy, bang, bang.

Yeah. And they were like, oh, this is fine. Yeah. Some music I was listening to. But did this happen to you at the Nutcracker?

Yes. And I think to this day, my daughter, I don't know if she's forgiven me. All you can do as a parent is own your mistakes and try to learn from them and admit that you also are prone to making mistakes. We were at the Nutcracker many years ago, and the song A-Punk by Vampire Weekend, which happened to be the first song in my phone, for reasons that I will never understand, I wasn't touching the phone. I was not trying to play the phone. It's literally the moment, Andrew, we're all seated. My favorite thing about going to the Nutcracker with Addy was we'd get there, I'll be honest with you, I'd get some champagne there before we'd go in, and I'd kind of get a nice, just the teeniest bit of a little good feeling going, and then we'd sit, we'd be all dressed up, we'd be coming from dinner, sit down, and the whole Seattle Opera Hall goes quiet right before they come in with the opening notes of Tchaikovsky's score, and it's just beautiful, and I look forward to, at the moment I would reach over and hold her hand as the opening notes were playing. It was like a, you know me, and I'm very ritualistic. And as I reach over to hold her hand, da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na That. This starts, and I can't, I don't even know it's me. You're getting angry at somebody else. I'm getting mad at someone. What the hell? And then I'm feeling through like i think i had like an overcoat because i was in a suit i'm i'm like under the seat trying to dig through the overcoat to find the phone and turn it off and like to this day if i say to addy a punk she'll be like you gotta be kidding she's gonna disown you and she was also right at the age she was probably 17 or something where she's like everything i did embarrassed her yes so you put that you put that at the top of the list that is rough rough stuff yeah i don't think other than like i mentioned it happened to me in that restaurant uh a little bit ago um i can't think of a really really embarrassing one that i'm usually i'm usually pretty conscientious about that if i'm in a movie theater i always go in and make sure that like ringtone is down and uh media is down all right number two on this list you know this is a holiday luke we got to get out of here um yeah it is new year's day i'm supposed

to be here today.

Okay, number two on the list, not recognizing someone you should know or someone not recognizing you after you've greeted them familiarly, which is a hard word for me to say, with familiarity. I will say the first

one is a living nightmare. That one is worse. Second one, I don't care if anybody remembers me.

Yeah, and you're like, oh, hey, buddy, how's it going? It's like, oh, who are you again? I mean, it's a little bit like, oh, I guess you big dog name,

but whatever. Slight ego death, but I can take it the opposite is the killer, the absolute killer. I have started doing something. Tell me, and I know we do need to get out of here, but if this is rude or not, I have now started sometimes saying to people, have we met before? Because I want to know if we've met before. And somehow to me, it doesn't sound super rude. It sounds like maybe we've met, you seem familiar to me, but I want to confirm. Somehow that doesn't feel super rude to me, and it helps me avoid a lot of confusion and trying to guess or pretend or act like I know the person when I don't, or if I shouldn't know them and I'm acting like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm just, I'm basically, I don't want to operate in this kind of cloud of lack of information. I just want to get right down to it and go, hey, I'm Luke, oh, have we met before? And I try to say it in a way that what they interpret it to be is me remembering that we'd met before, but I just want to double check.

Yeah, and I do that in earnest, too. I'll be like, oh, yeah, wait, haven't we met before? And some people are like, no, I don't think so. But also, like, I'm often saying that, though, when I'm meeting up with listeners or something. And so, I don't, you know, again, we have a great relationship with our listeners. But also, it is hard to remember everybody, you know what I mean, or the context in the situation in which we've met people. So, a little bit of a reminder, I think, is fair game. You've got to be, I mean, let me put it this way. If you were to say that to Becca tonight, like, I feel like that's a problem. You shouldn't say that to Becca.

Like, don't say, hey, have we met before? I like, well, that's Andrew. That's why you and I have the deal. I bring you places. You introduce yourself to Becca, and then she has to say her name out loud, and then I know her name.

That's a good move, by the way. I'm not, you know, like, I think that if I hadn't met Genevieve when I met her, I think I'd be living the single life now, and I think that's absolutely fine. And I'm not somebody who has always felt the need, like just some sort of generic desire to partner up. You know, I think I just happened to find the right person. Having said that, I would say that the the biggest benefit of being in a couple like that is that thing. And you could do that with your friends, too, if you just have that agreement with your buds. Just be like, listen, we're going into this party. I don't you know, I don't I'm not sure about everybody's a bunch of co-workers, but some of them I'm not quite sure their name. So can you just make sure to loudly introduce yourself first? It's such a good, smart agreement to enter into.

And it's like you're kind of in on a caper. Yeah. It's not quite, you know, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, but it is kind of like a fun little project. Like, I got your back. You get mine. I'll do this at your work party. You do this at my work party or whatever, this thing. And, like, we can both benefit each other.

Yes. And I often tell Genevieve, of course, this is always coming from me. I'm always like, okay, and just so you know, I'm happy to leave, like, basically, once were there for like an hour and a half like i'm happy to get out of there you know like kind of setting up those sorts of things too i think i saw a meme or was it even daria related or something i saw something going around the other day that says i'm happy to leave before we get there i'm like yeah that's getting more and more what i'm what i'm kind of putting i i remember in in in i

can't remember which relationship it was maybe it was a couple of them but i felt like there was even i even had a sign like some kind of almost like a third base coach yeah something going with whoever it was I was with that like if we were ready to kind of bounce. Yeah. But we couldn't exactly say it out loud out of fear of it seeming rude or whatever. We just kind of like a certain signal that was like, alright, I'm ready to wrap this up if you are kind of thing. Yeah, we gotta let the

dogs out. And it's like, oh, you don't have dogs. Alright, last one on the list and I'm assuming this was number one because this mortifies me and just even saying these words puts a chill in my heart which is dissing someone. Dissing someone on an email and accidentally including them. I've done it.

Not in a long time. Not in a long time. But I've done it. Yeah, rough stuff. It's, uh, that's for all of the AI, Andrew, for all the AI summary of all my emails.

Yeah, why don't they do that?

It sounds like you're including somebody that you're dissing. Can't they fix that? That seems like that's actually, I mean, that could ruin personal and professional relationships. There's thousands, if not millions of dollars on the line. That should be the first thing that AI is trying to fix in my email.

Yeah, I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but are you thinking of the same one I'm thinking of? I've mentioned this to you before one time. Oh, when I was saying something about you to the person. The Thing Festival, you were just like, you sent me an email and copied me on it, and then you immediately sent another one after this and said, don't worry about that one, read this one. And I was like, what a weird thing to say. So, of course, I went through and I read, like, deeper into that one than I would.

Do you think if I wouldn't have done that, would you have gotten to the bottom of that email if I didn't do the suspicious thing?

I was going to say no, but maybe 50-50, because it was about, like, kind of a live show thing. And it's like, I might have been reading, like, for more context. It was when we first started the Thing Festival, and what you said wasn't like, oh, well, my partner's an asshole, so let's see if we can get this past him. You were just like, he tends to be pretty anxious, so I'll run this by him. And then you did some sort of emoji that was like, whatever. What is the emoji that goes, like, all teeth emoji?

I don't know what that guy's called. Oh, yeah. I use that one a lot.

Yeah, like, he's a little anxious. But, you know, we got through that.

I wasn't super offended. You know what? I'm not trying to say this to be dismissive. that isn't even the one i was thinking oh i'm oh of me but not with me though right no not with you that's like in previous yeah in previous you know like job life stuff of just like sending i almost had one the other day too uh which it wasn't like it wasn't going to be the worst but what it was was oh man yeah i was going to you know what it was it was a it was actually a family it was a it was a burbank family thing and it was like we have so many this is the problem we have so many text chains going so this isn't an email but we have so many text chains going and there's hawk squad that's the mother that's the that's the um you know if it was a sourdough starter that's the mother that's got everybody on it so anything you say on hawk squad you know it's going to everyone in the family but then there's all these little kind of break off little groups and there was one that one of my sisters sent and it was to i thought it was just to me and a couple of my siblings and they were saying something I think it was saying something about the um that get together that I had in my house a couple weeks ago and I was going to make as I often do a little bit of a snarky joke about my parents because my parents were in like day eight of staying at my place and so I was I was just going to say something that you might say to your sibling in a joking way about your parents you love your parents but you sometimes you know to your siblings have a shared lived experience you're kind of being like a little bit like you know their mom and dad are being mom and dad or something yeah and i was just about to do it and then before i could do it my mom chimed in on the text chain oh i was like i love all of you kids so much and i was like i did not know you were

on here and i was about to gently roast you this i mean luckily i had no roasting involved here but i did do this i was going to actually kind of quasi throw genevieve under the bus because there have been times i'm on a family chain with her and there have been times where i remember it was on thanksgiving and everybody was like oh happy thanksgiving this is like genevieve and her extended family and i'm on there and then i went to grab some i think it was like we're having thanksgiving but we eat thanksgiving kind of later like an actual dinner time like seven or something and so i think it was morning and i was running out to grab some mcdonald's for me and genevieve on like thanksgiving morning or something and then i suddenly get this text on the family text chain that says sort of like you know quarter pounder with cheese and pickles and fry you know it was whatever her order was and she sent it to the entire family and she's done that she's done that a couple of times on that chain i'm always like listen we don't spend a lot i can't remember the last time genevieve and i have like talked shit about anybody on text i think it's just kind of a bad yeah it's a dangerous game but it's just like i'm just like you got to be careful with this stuff like it's one of these days you're going to send the wrong thing to the wrong group but genevieve did send a photo the other day to me of a of a downed tree on campus because of all the storms that we're ripping through here and she's like look at this downed tree on the campus and i wrote back like oh yeah good thing nobody was hurt and then a bunch of our friends started chiming in and i did not realize that she had sent it to the wordle group and it's like i was just like oh gee good thing i didn't say look at it laying around like a lazy ass like rodent huh i'm trying to think like there's no way i would have turned that into just the fact that you didn't know but the fact that i didn't know so stressful exactly also the fact of me accusing rodent of being lazy is like one of the funniest things in the world considering everything that um he gets done in his life while i'm he's building real buildings in his backyard while i'm digging fake mines and minecraft anyway jamie thank you very much for that list that was a fun way to start the new year yeah thanks jamie appreciate you

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