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You know you rock when you roll with the Seahawks, Marshawn Lynch, Beast Moe with his dreadlocks, Wilson passes the ball to the endzone, touchdown, you know we're gonna get the crown in Super Bowl 2014, we get the ring, the bling, listen to the crowd sing, Seahawks, Seahawks, Seahawks, we block that offense, they say we'll lose in such an offense and nonsense, we got the best defense, being the other quarterback, comes with the expense of the act of being sacked, I hope the Broncos have enough time to react to the level of game the Hawks are bringing that evening a Super Bowl Sunday, cause they're gonna go all the way for the win, starting when the game begins, all the way to the end of the game, and to go down in fame, as the Super Bowl champions of this year, this team should be feared. You better saddle up when you roll with Seattle, Broncos seem like some old cattle.

Alright, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Monday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Coming to you on this blessed Monday from Los Angeles, California, where the sun is shining and the world is happy. Well, at least the world that I tend to travel in, because the Seattle Seahawks managed to win the Super Bowl yesterday, and I, for one, am pretty excited about it. I'm also pretty excited that the Best Buy in Culver City was open this morning when i landed because i did something i never do i forgot my audio equipment back in portland this morning and so i had to go to the best buy at the westfield mall and buy this little temporary microphone that i am using right now that means i don't have any audio drops to play for the next couple of shows but um but we're gonna get through it together here on episode 4659 we're gonna get through it with the help of this guy he's the longest running co-bro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships he is andrew walsh and he's joining me right now good

morning my friend good morning luke not to be cliche on this monday after the super bowl but may i begin with the observation that tissue boxes have gotten a lot worse in recent years

have you noticed this is it just me i mean you're doing the exact same thing every other morning radio show is doing the day after the super bowl which is opening with a conversation about tissue

boxes. I think we talked about this. I know. I'm sorry. It is so embarrassing. It's literally on the nose, Andrew, or sometimes in the nose. That actually is a conversation I want to have at some point, and something did just happen that reminded me to bring it up, but obviously that we could, if you insist, we can hold that hacky conversation for another day. Well, let's just take a moment with it, though. What is going on with tissue boxes? Well, let me, can I ask you, what is your relationship with

tissue boxes like are do you have a lot of them you don't use tissue do you use hankies

yes no i i i think that the you know the idea of the hankies is so upsetting to me like i mean i know you wash them and stuff but it's there's a period of time between when a hanky has been used and when it's being washed yeah and that period of time is is again is troubling for me to even consider. So here's what I do. I don't have a, you're a, you're a, um, a kind of a power user of tissues. And so you, I think you think about them, you buy them, you have opinions on the current box technology. I just usually have some fast food napkins. I've got some taco time napkins stuffed into the door of my car. And, and that's pretty much what I, I don't, I don't spend any money on, on a product that is specifically designed for me to blow my nose into. I just figure i'll i'll call it a lost leader for taco time well you observant listeners might have

noticed that on thursday's show while i was recording with you from the college campus of the university of washington i was not using traditional kleenex tissues i was using a bunch of chipotle napkins that i still had in my pocket from the day before so i know by the way don't

work particularly well like napkins in fact this happened to me on the flight down here today I had a napkin, you know, like, yeah, I guess it's a napkin they gave me. And my nose was a little runny, and I went to wipe it. And it wasn't a very pleasant experience because that's not what they're really designed for.

No. And we grew up with tissue boxes that were either they were like kind of the puffs kind, but they were like a big brick, right? They were like a brick that was laying on its side. And then either the puffs kind, you would pull a big wedge, a cardboard wedge out of it sort of. And that was the opening. And you could sort of see the cross section of tissues. And again, happy Super Bowl Monday, everybody And that worked pretty well As an adult myself, I didn't have that Puffs money, so I went for like

By the way, this conversation may be relevant to Drake May

That is true I'm not trying to troll

No, I'm not trying to troll Pats fans either I really am not I had a friend of mine who's a Pats fan Text me today and say, don't gloat I said, good morning to you too

Is this somebody that you're in touch with on the Somewhat rig, or somebody you haven't heard from in a long time?

It's somebody I know from L.A. who I have who I don't have a super regular contact with, but it's one of those things where they're a Pats fan. I'm a Seahawks fan. So when this sort of thing happens, it but it was it was it was it was a weird, not a weird, but it was like I wasn't planning on gloating. But now I might have to just a little bit because you opened with a don't gloat instead of a and what I said was, how about congratulations on your team winning the Super Bowl? But that's just not the Patriot way, Andrew.

No, it is not. I was behind a car before the Super Bowl on Sunday. I was actually sitting at a stoplight. You know it well, Luke. I was on Meridian about to take a left onto Northgate Way. There is a Shell gas station right there to your left. You are kitty corner. I love the phrase kitty corner. You are kitty corner from that 7-Eleven and teriyaki joint little shopping area. And the car in front of me, I noticed, so to my left in the gas station parking lot is a big tent, and they're selling all kinds. It's a big tent. They're selling all kinds of Seahawks garb. And by the way, not one Darnold jersey, like nothing but JSN jerseys at this kind of bootleg stand. and the car in front of me was literally a patriot and i had a thought you're gonna drive that on super bowl a jeep patriot you're gonna is that a jeep in my town yeah that is that's that's elite

level trolling i was shocked by the way we'll get back to tissue boxes yeah i do need to finish it now that i've started i was shocked at how many people i mean pleasantly shocked and how many people i saw wearing seahawks gear now granted i was flying from portland which is kind of close to Seattle but I saw so many people in full Seahawks gear on the airplane and then in LAX this morning there was just a lot of people in Seahawks gear and you know the last time we won the Super Bowl well it was a long time ago and it was against the Broncos but I was just living in Seattle and so I didn't have this kind of unique experience of like being out in the world and in fact in a place I don't even live the next morning and kind of feeling this excitement I got into the uber and he was listening to the wave that's the radio station and um and she was talking about the seahawks and congratulations they beat the pats it all felt like slightly surreal to me to have the whole nation forced to acknowledge that the seattle seahawks are for right now the best team

in football i'm having sort of the opposite feeling because this is the first time that i've been in seattle for a seattle right you were down here last time i was in la for both the 2013 win And that heartbreaking 2014 loss So I'm sort of like excited I've been harboring some thoughts That I'm sure I will dismiss handily But like, could I go to the parade on Wednesday? Should I? Would that be good content? Should I report light? We'll talk more about that in a second. But we've got to start where people want us to start, Luke. Tissue boxes. Tissue boxes. So when I was growing up, you had puffs, and they were kind of in a bigger box, but like a brick on its side, if you can picture that. But then also the standard were like Kleenex boxes that were like kind of that same shape but maybe shallower, and the tissue stuck out the top, right? And you have that folding technology. You pull one, you pull one, you pull one.

Like kind of a rectangle or something.

Yeah, and every time you pull one, another one pops out right after it. In fact, the technology got so sweet that at some point they started coloring the last 10 to 20 tissues in the box to give you a heads up that the tissue box is running low. Very smart, very good in marketing, and also handy as a user. Now I feel like the standard is, and this is my question, and this is what I want people to call in on. We're taking calls live. 206-414-TBTL. TVTL. When I say live, I mean you will get the voicemail machine. But I'll weigh in. Now we get the cubes. And I am just now realizing something as I'm looking at this box I'm holding. So we now get the cubes where the tissues are folded up differently inside. You know, it's like these are the types of tissues that might be on the back of your aunt's toilet maybe. You might build like a tissue cozy for it or something. You would knit something like that. You know what I'm talking about?

I made one of those, by the way, in grade school. yeah that you get like you get like these it's a little like a grid a plastic grid and then you use yarn and a very very dull needle and you and you loop the yarn through the grid and then you connect up four more and then a bottom and then a top and it's a tissue thing is it like is that crocheting i don't think it's crocheting because i think crocheting is when you're tying a specific kind of knot oh okay yeah but um it was we would make all of this just absolute crap and then we would sell it to poor unsuspecting parents actually i believe they suspected that this was total crap poor suspecting parents poor suspecting parents who were strong armed into buying this crap ola so that we could have money to go to camp casey it was the end of the year big reward we would go to camp casey and um and to help pay for it we would make all this stuff on fridays during crafts and then we'd have a big bazaar and we would sell it all again to our

parents yeah people who are forced to buy it people who are forced people are very suspected like insurance anyway um these cube tissue boxes right yeah you pull the tissues out the top and that technology is still supposed to work where it feeds another tissue into the chute right and it does for a while but what I've been noticing and it's been a slow burn on me for years until I'm finally speaking up about it I'm realizing about I don't know a quarter of the way into the box it just stops feeding the next one it's like they're folding up the tissues differently inside I've almost accidentally thrown away the bottom half of tissue boxes because it's not feeding the next one through the hole and you think it's empty but it's like no you have to like dig in there and reconstruct it again and feed another one through and then it's going to happen again in another week or so and I am now just realizing because I don't, you said that I buy the tissues in the house or you alluded to that or something or you implied that, I don't Genevieve does, it's one of her big Costco purchases and I'm wondering if this, because I'm looking at the bottom of it and I do not on this stuff, you're not a Costco man the holiest of days for the Pacific Northwest. I am not going to go into one of I'm not going to lean in on one of its favorite brands, but I do notice these are Kirkland Signature Facial Tissues, and I am wondering if there's a difference between the Kirkland brand and the original Kleenex brand as far as quality control all the way down when it comes to folding these tissues. Yeah, they need

to step up their folding game. It sounds like they have some in tissue sort of issues where it becomes detached. Is it possible that this they're doing this in some way to save the whales they're gonna claim that it's like well

we're gonna we're putting a governor on your usage yeah just something where they're like um you know

we take the environment very seriously and that's why we're making your experience as a consumer worse and we haven't figured out how it's related to that yet but we're gonna use that as uh as an excuse and also we may are we still throwing things on the pandemic yeah are we still blaming the pandemic for things that just are manifestly worse than they used to be well i was signing up

for something the other day which i've been wanting to talk to you about we have plenty of time to talk about it we won't get sidelined with it now because it's still like over a month away but um i was i was signing me and genevieve and a group of friends up for an escape room adventure for genevieve's birthday and i noticed that when you get to like the checkout page is still telling you what the what the covid 19 the the the novel coronavirus um rules are and about masking and stuff and they basically said you know it's just boilerplate now that says you know it's still we still recommend it or something but i don't think anybody i don't know how many websites still know that this is on some of their checkout pages

totally yeah it's probably just because they haven't checked out of their own website they haven't rented out their own escape room exactly a while and so how would they know unless you you tell them i'm boy we could do a whole show on the fact that you are going to an escape room We will. We have time, though. But maybe as we get closer to that. Let's talk a little bit about our experience yesterday and the watching of the game. Did you end up at the Eagles? Was that the place where you landed?

Yeah, I did. And I got to say, I'm not super proud of myself. When I got there, I groused to Genevieve and Kamarakev both separately. And I regret this. I woke up regretting this, kind of saying a little bit like, oh, I should have stayed home. Because when we showed up at the Eagles, we were watching up in that upstairs area that you know. You've watched the game with us up there, too. So the TV is, like, projected or the program is, like, projected on a big screen, you know, a projector that hangs from the ceiling. And the sound up there is not great, and I knew it wouldn't be. There's something where it's, like, they also have TVs down in the little bar area. But if you have both sound systems on at the same time, there's a slight delay. I don't know if you've experienced this, but so it becomes very echoey and strange. So you have to turn off the sound in the big room where we're watching on the projector and then blast the audio from the other room. And so I was really concerned about, number one, not being able to follow the commercials, which are really important because Vives and I are going to do an epically long, I'm sure, after these messages today about the Super Bowl commercials. and usually I would be at home taking notes and watching with my ear to every detail on these commercials and I'm like this time I'm just going to have to do my research later because I'm not going to be able to hear these damn things but also I like football but I'm not that smart about football I like the TV product even the worst NFL TV product I like it I like hearing what the announcers have to say I like them explaining things to me I like sometimes them telling me how to feel and i was sitting there and the projector was having issues when we showed up it was it had these uh vertical lines up and down yeah yeah just like and they were you could see through they weren't thick lines they were incredibly thin but it was like watching through um and they were fairly spaced apart but let's say you're looking at a tv-shaped projection onto a screen and there's like 25 tiny little lines going up and down equidistant like you're watching through a cheese grater or something not a cheese grater but I don't know something that like wires were like through the screen and you could see what was going on but I'm like I can't quite see the game I can't hear shit and I just sort of was like I think I made the wrong move here but our whole gang was there I don't know if you know this your brother joined us again and it was like this whole gang I thought he was coming down. Yeah, yeah. But it was like this whole gang that we watched the last few games in the same exact room. The projector wasn't having the issues. But this time, I was like, I don't know. I made the wrong choice. But then very quickly, I got into the swing of things. The projector corrected itself. I have no idea how or why, but the projector ended up being a clean visual for the whole game by the time the game started. and you know I watched the commercials by just like trying and Genevieve was taking notes and we were just saying okay we got to go back and watch this one and listen to this one later and kind of picking up on what the room was trying to pick up on uh but at the end of the day I think

I'm glad that I wasn't sitting home alone in my basement celebrating the Seahawks Super Bowl victory while all of my friends were somewhere else so I definitely made the right choice and I I feel bad for being a little bit grousey when I first got there.

I, you know, went to this watch party, the Super Bowl watching party that I've been going to for probably the last four or five years. It's Becca's brother and his wife, and they put on this whole thing. And there's like an incredible spread of food and drinks that they put out. They're great hosts. And what I talked about last week was I came up with this whole plan, which was to set up Becca's mom is a painter. And she has this beautiful art studio that's in this barn that's kind of on the property as well. and so I was going to bring down my laptop, and I actually bought a projector for this so that I could project in the art studio, and Jeff was nice enough to make sure that the old Wi-Fi was working up there and everything, so when we got to the place, we didn't even go to the Super Bowl party. We went to the barn for me to set up my projector and everything, and without getting too into the weeds on this there was the craziest like I don't know what you would call it rights issue related to the projector Andrew not wanting to let me play my YouTube live account so I pay like a hundred bucks a month for youtube live and that's where i get all my sports and my chris hayes and everything and it was playing on my laptop just fine right yeah and then when i would plug my laptop i'd use the dongle and i would plug my laptop into the projector it would start playing for about 30 seconds and then it would just the screen would go black and it was only doing that with the super bowl with the pre-game of the super bowl it was the strangest thing and now the projector itself was also Wi-Fi enabled. So I went through the insanely laborious process. The projector is Wi-Fi enabled, but it doesn't have a keyboard associated with it or anything. So it has this very janky remote control that you have to like try to get to a browser and then do all this, like I'm trying to move this cursor. That's very kind of kludgy to like each letter of my name, the, how I log into like YouTube TV. and i did this whole becca has the patience of job just wait was job patient job had a lot going on i think we say we say that but i mean honestly the whole knock on job was impatient right i mean job was considered to be haughty and uh you know job thought that thought he was all that and a bag of chips and then god decided to just absolutely ruin his life

Oh, see, I didn't realize that he starts off haughty. I thought he just started as a normal, even quasi-humble guy, but God just kept piling shit on him. Maybe that's true. I trust your knowledge of Bible stories way more than mine.

It's been a while since I've played in the Job space, but the thing about it was, I believe that regardless of what he's doing before God really ruins his life, the whole thing is that Job is really bummed about this. he's like, God, what are you doing to me? And I think God is like, you know, you just got to wait this one out. You got to be patient. But, and then he eventually is. And I think things go back to normal for him. But the patience of Job sounds like Job's overriding characteristic was always patience. And I feel like it wasn't, that was what God needed to teach him. Well, anyway, Becca was very patient as I like was logging into the Hisense projector system, my YouTube TV account it took conservatively 20 minutes for me to do this i finally i didn't couldn't remember my password obviously so i finally get this thing logged in and into the so my computer is not even attached to the projector now it's just the projector which which is talking to the internet and is supposed to be talking to my youtube tv account and i click play on the football game there and it says basically an error has occurred we can't play this i was like how does it first of all i'm allowed to play this i pay for this youtube tv this is content that i am allowed to have but anyway so that was kind of annoying so can i i well i mean you're in i'm in your world

grandmama cannot believe that we've been spending so much time talking about tissues why you first issues up now now digital rights management but wait so is this a theory that you have or have you looked it up do you know that it was a digital rights management thing and not something with like video you were playing other youtube videos you were playing like just random youtube videos and it was fine it was when you switched over to the Super Bowl that it shut everything down

that was what appeared to be happening and I did not look it up but the reason I think it's a rights management issue is because Scott and Jeff Becca's brothers came up to kind of hang out and help me troubleshoot it and they both have a lot of AV experience Scott owns a bar and he has he was telling yeah he's got similar problems like with stuff that he'll be trying to play on the TVs or trying to play through the sound system and it'll just get weird Jeff's theory was it had to do with the hdmi cable that maybe what it thought was is this hdmi cable what is this going to and are you in a bar and are you playing something are you projecting something in an area where you're supposed to be paying money for the rights to project this you know because if you're in a bar you're probably not allowed to play the super bowl is that or you have not you're not not allowed

to but you have to pay you know rights to you know in the same way the baseball games i know at like Teddy's, the bar where I like to go to watch baseball games, they have to pay more than just a usual cable subscription in order to play certain sports, right? Because they're making money off of it by bringing people in with the televisions and the sports and then selling drinks. So I understand that, but it's usually not up to the technology because I mean, what if you did get the rights? What if you are paying root sports or whatever for this special privilege? Like that's why I'm a little bit, that's why I'm a little bit shocked but you and you but there were other things i was able to play on youtube tv i was able

to play other things and when i would plug when i would get the when i get the game going on my laptop then i would plug in the hdmi cable and then it would be playing through the projector and then it would black out after like about 30 seconds always and it would black out on both the

projectory on the air.

the screen on your computer or maybe did the did the projector take over the screen on your computer

and you don't did that part i don't remember exactly but this we did this happen three or four times all this is to say i was all excited to set up my viewing layer and um and it didn't quite go as i planned but you know it was fine because the game itself was the way that i really hoped it would be for me which is not overly stressful the the seahawks were as as i as i sort of expected them to be by the way that was a whole other crazy thing like i woke up sunday morning and i thought like what is this feeling i'm experiencing right now less fear confidence like i didn't know how i i kept thinking that's got to be a jinx how dare i think that the seahawks are probably the better team on paper and are probably going to win if fairly handily that was my feeling going in and i was like this feels wrong i should not feel this way and this is going to ruin it but i couldn't shake the feeling it was like i couldn't shake the confidence andrew that that we were just on paper and that's not a knock on the patriots i think the patriots have a bright future and i think they're going to be back at the super bowl i just thought that if you lined the two teams up the seahawks looked like the better team this year and um and yet i kept thinking well that's i'm i'm officially ruining it i'm officially jinxing the live and tweedle out of this but um yeah the actual like the game itself the seahawks led throughout and really were so dominant on defense that I was able to watch the game in this at the Super Bowl party and not like completely lose my my mind because we had it pretty pretty well handled there weren't any big controversial calls if anything we benefited from a lack of a call or two like there was a point where one of our guys I think it was Josh Jobe like clearly punched a Patriot and uh and they didn't throw a flag on it and it was like it you should have he should have been kicked out of the game for it and he wasn't so point is there weren't these triggering moments for me that will send me into an emotional uh tailspin because if that would have happened and i'm around normal people that would have been a bad scene i will say this if the seahawks make it back to the super bowl and i am going back to this party which was by the way the thing that jeff did that was really smart jeff is like i said he's an av guy he had the sound so dialed in and so loud on the tv so he has a whole kind of cool home stereo system with you know subwoofers and things like that so the sound was crisp it was clear and it was plenty loud so that you could listen to the commercials you could hear what the announcers are saying you know you didn't have to like i could see going to a super bowl party where they've got the sound kind of low because they're like we can see what's happening in the game people want to talk jeff was like jeff understood the assignment and maybe it was darcy's call i don't know they understood the assignment which is i need to be able to hear what chris collinsworth

is saying even if it makes me angry how many people are at this party a lot a lot to vary

i want to say 30 or 40 okay yeah so it's well attended i'm glad it's well attended but i'm

glad you were able to hear everything that's nice and what that's big what did you um it was pretty chaotic where i was which is again kind of one of the reasons why and again it was fun if i wasn't so worried about the commercials i don't think i would have even been in my head as much about it i'll probably end up re-watching the game anyway i like to do i already did this morning i'm not surprised like i'll probably like to watch it and actually go back and listen and hear because i have no i you know i didn't hear i didn't hear one iota of commentary or anything like that so it's just kind of a different experience like it's like you can watch football or you can watch football with your friends it's a little bit uh it's a little bit of a choice but all of that is to say i like that they emphasized the sound so what did you not to get too far ahead of ourselves But, like, I was not, for the most part, able to take advantage of those moments where, like, everybody in a room reacted to one of the commercials more than the other. We had a couple of micro events like that, but nothing big. Like, were there moments where, like, the room just all shut up because everybody was engrossed with one of these commercials?

I would say the only one that really broke through that I noticed was the Jorgen Lanthimos Emma Stone one.

Jorgos, yeah, Lanthimos, yeah.

Your ghost.

Yeah, for Squarespace, I want to say.

Or your ghost.

That was the Squarespace one. Yeah, for Squarespace. She can't get the domain for her name. I thought it was pretty good.

I thought it was really good, but have you seen the long version?

No, I haven't. I only saw a teaser for it last week, which is like 10 seconds of her crying with his crazy music playing. And then I saw the one that aired during the Super Bowl, which you didn't really need to hear that well. You could just hear the music. But I only saw what aired.

so i saw a uh and for folks that haven't seen it it's you know it's this is the guy that made begonia and the favorite and kinds of kindness and a lot of like real out there projects and it's this kind of like castle type of like very dark building you know stone building on

island in the middle of like a kind of a stormy ocean and the idea is emma stone is just in this like weird castle freaking out because emma stone.com has already taken the domain name and she keeps typing it in and then she's destroying the laptops after she realizes once again that she cannot get emma stone.com she's throwing the laptops into a fire she's breaking them the long version i saw there is a a woman whose face we never see who keeps rollerblading in replacement laptops oh i love that it's the best part of the commercial and the fact that when they cut it short it didn't include her they should have figured out a way to at least because in the longer version there's you see her and she's always like in a nun's frock kind of outfit like but you just see the shot of her rollerblading down the hall with another laptop and then when she brings like the second or third laptop to emma stone emma stone says something like oh my god thank you you're divine see this is they they didn't they they neutered the yorgos they picked the they i think they basically picked the wrong parts of the commercial to take out for time at least for my sensibilities because i thought but my point is that commercial was kind of smart because it was so over the top it was so crazy that it did kind of get everyone's attention but then i was also running i was you know i was snacking i was in a lot of different conversations this is what I was going to say really quickly though if the Seahawks make it back into the Super Bowl in the next few years which I'm hoping they do I think there are some reasons to believe that is possible I am going to have to have my viewing station really dialed in because I was able to get through this because the Seahawks were kind of winning the whole time but if it were a close game or if it were or if we were like playing terribly or if there was bad what I think of as bad calls going against us I would have had to get the living heck out of there because so many people were talking to me about so many things that are not football related like you know what i mean like it was a great fun party for people that are mildly interested in the super bowl but like i i was again i was able to handle it and and not have my alternate viewing station working because the game was never in question but if but but if we get back into it and we're going against let's just say a fourth year of drake may or uh you know the buffalo bills, or I don't know, just a team that's going to really, really give us a run for our money. I'm not going to be able to be standing there talking about unrelated topics to people I vaguely

know. Yeah, I could see that totally as well. I had weird emotions going into this game because as we had discussed, I wasn't even, I was watching as much as I could of the Seahawks early on in the season, but I wasn't prioritizing it the way I had in the past and sort of taking a little bit of an emotional step back from the team and then I really got into it during the playoffs because and this is something that I I really I realized something about myself no joke kind of yesterday I think I it was creeping up and then today when I was thinking about my feelings about the Super Bowl and about the games that got us to the Super Bowl like I was so much more in a certain way i guess bad feelings like anxious and on edge about the games versus the rams and even the final game against the 49ers and first of all those were just better and scarier matchups for us but i realized well i'm way more into those now being into something means i'm clutching my stomach and growling at people so is that it's like a couple of things it's a double whammy of self-realization um one of which is like i guess i like my sports like i like my coffee just painful and secondly i think that going into this game against a team that i don't harbor any ill will against i mean we would have ironically because it's like the patriots and that terrible end of the super bowl in 2014 i know that there's like this sort of narrative about like now we can get our comeuppance but like that just feels like a different team i mean it's still the same color and it's still the same logo and everything, but it's a different team. Like, it's just, there's none of that DNA anymore. And, and, you know, there's Robert Kraft. I mean, there's Robert Kraft.

There's the owner, by the way. He's a piece of VOS, obviously. Did I, just a very quick interjection, if I can, to bring this maybe out of the sports world and into the just elite level trolling world.

Well, let me, can I just finish my thought though? So, because I don't think we'll get back to it. So like, what I realized about myself today was that when I don't, and maybe I should have had more sports hate for the Patriots, but for whatever reason, I didn't. And it seemed like, you know, like you said on paper, it wasn't going to be a particularly close game. So I wasn't like really worried about losing. And also I just didn't have hate in my heart. And it occurred to me like yesterday, I think one of the only things I kind of texted you was like in all caps after the win, like show Sean McVay's face right now. You know, a coach who wasn't even in the game, but it's because like, I hate the Rams now. You know, and the 49ers I have lingering.

hate for and they're division rivals and so i think my second part of my realization was which i really don't like this about myself it's like well it's better when you really hate the team and like maybe i'm just more of a hater than a fan so anyway i'm sorry to cut you off but i just

want to oh no not at all thought well the other thing is you are almost best friends with mike vrabel i saw your online activity that's a great photo uh if you haven't seen it go check out Andrews Blueski where he has side-by-side photos of him and the Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel at Walsh High in their football uniforms and just one season apart yes I think I might have lied I

think it might have been a couple is we're like three or four years apart but it is amazing like we're posed we're both wearing the same exact Walsh Jesuit uniform but you could not see a picture of two very very very different people some guy by the way totally coincidentally on super bowl sunday i had posted that on friday night or something i started following some guy who's like an espn editor or something on sunday morning then he started following me back and then he retweeted it so suddenly that started to get a lot of juice not tons like a hundred or something like that but by by my blue sky standards that started to get a lot of juice leading up to the super bowl which was truly my super bowl what were you going to say the way that you could the way

you constructed the the blue sky post was also great because you basically said okay what did

you say exactly so I posted this photo of him in his football uniform posing and this photo of me in my football uniform posing but like I look like I'm I would as I told somebody last night the only thing I hated more at football the only thing I hated more than football at this time was having my picture taken and so you see me in this jersey that somebody some stinky jersey they probably pulled out of the laundry bin moments before the photo and threw it on me because I didn't even have a number or a position and my face my pudgy little face looks like I want to both kill somebody and cry at the same time and then the Mike Vrabel one is he's like this just very athletic looking very I don't know if handsome is the right word but a very athletic in shape bold and very confident and not menacing looking just like a huge smile on his face young man probably of 16 or 17 years old but just like the epitome of of health and confidence and and and levity in a certain way and i just and i saw i think i posted like can you try to guess which one of these guys is me but like the way that what you can look into the faces of those two children and see such a different way of navigating the world and and i think honestly it's played exactly

the way we all expected he was coaching in the super bowl and you and i are podcasting exactly exactly but so so bob craft the owner of the new england patriots um got in trouble for uh going to a massage parlor and uh you know i i don't know if he actually received a sexual favor or if he just requested it because my guess would be it was a sting operation um in like jupiter florida um and my sense of those things is that probably the way that they would catch somebody would be there would be like an undercover agent or something i don't know how it works but he got in trouble for doing this and bill belichick's i guess girlfriend i don't think that they're engaged or or married or anything jordan hudson who's gotten a lot of attention in the last six months the other day was at a unc basketball game with bill belichick and she's wearing a t-shirt and the t-shirt is of the massage parlor that where bob craft got arrested for requesting yeah a sexual favor and that is i have to say an elite level of troll is pretty amazing i know i saw that and that's like i find her to be kind of a lot yeah but that's pretty that's pretty

pretty good because it wasn't like it was my understanding because it was a little the photos i saw were a little bit hard to see but it wasn't like some sort of meme that she had made that was like asking me about the craft special or some stupid it was just like big i think it was a sweatshirt right a big circle logo on the front of her sweatshirt maybe t-shirt that was just the

logo of the company right yes but my my guess is she had to print this out yes and or she like i don't think that anyone was thinking i mean again it's like if you were if you were sort of an anti-patriots person uh patriots team that is that would be like a very kind of funny way i guess to troll the team and to troll the ownership i don't think anyone had thought of that before she did like i don't think that was something you could buy on the internet maybe it was maybe i missed the the bulletin on that but um but anyway that was just i was like wow you just gotta kind of like you gotta take your cap off on that one and go uh you are ruining bill belichick's career life and legacy but man that was a good that was a good one yes but um anyway so back sorry but just back to the watching of it i enjoyed it and i certainly very much enjoyed the the warm hospitality of Becca's family. And that is actually kind of the most fun part for me is getting to see all of them.

mean not more fun than watching the super bowl but i do like getting to see them i don't get to see them enough so that part was all great but what i learned when my takeaway from the event was next year or in the future years i'm gonna need i'm gonna need an escape hatch because again i've said it now four different times but this was this was okay for me because we it was a runaway but i'm not going to be able to be standing talking to somebody about an unrelated topic while uh you know sam darn was throwing a pick six uh you know or something like that or you know again a call is going against us i also was a little worried that my energy was just i mean i was working on it i kept checking with becca going am i being too loud right now i was probably at 11 or 12 by the way everybody was interested in the game people were wearing seahawks you know shirts and stuff it wasn't like people were not into the game but it was just i was just sort of like a weird feral animal that was just kind of pacing in the kitchen area you know going like going like oh that's grounding that's grounding there's nobody i mean he's not outside of the tackle box that's and like no one there even cares about or knows what grounding is you know um i was also constantly updating everyone on how my bets were doing which i gotta tell you andrew i was pleasantly surprised that a couple of these nutcase bets i made came through i i forgot that i had some money in my draft kings account because i can't use it when i'm in washington state it's blocked so sunday morning i was at becca's and i was like oh this is oregon let me see i had like you know 50 or 60 bucks in there so i was like let's have some fun on some real real silly bets and most of them did not come through but i had aj barner to score the

first touchdown of the game that's such a i saw you texted that out i was shocked by that because that was i told you i've been listening to the bill simmons podcast the past couple of weeks which i was you know i had not listened to before but i'm kind of really getting into it and that was his and even though he's a big patriots fan that was his lock he was just kind of like yeah barner first touch on the game like that pays really well really yes and so then when you said wow because you put you just like put 20 bucks or something on that it paid out pretty well right you got a couple hundred back uh which is sweet i'm not trying to diminish that but i was like are you listening to that show too or is this just a random thing you landed on because that was

what his uh that's what his prediction was it was just a random thing that you know i'm going through like the draft kings you know app sunday morning and they've got it so i mean and i just want to preface this by saying i think sports gambling is a extremely pernicious potentially extremely pernicious event in the lives of a lot of people i do think it's overall really bad for sports and and again really bad for people that get caught up in it it's weirdly the one thing like this that i don't have a messed up relationship with i really and truly do not think about it for months at a time um and and so i like to dabble with it a little bit but yes i was scrolling through the app and they've got like dave port noise picks i'm like miss me with that they've got so many different categories broken up of like for parlays and for like you know this person you know these people love the patriots and they're these are the like the the parlays that they're putting together so i went into the like i love the seahawks area of the app and was looking at the that some of the parlays they were i hit a four-way parlay by the way which is i've never hit and i didn't make that much money on it after all that let me see if i can find it in my thing and it was not a parlay that i had like that i had you know pieced together i actually don't know how to piece together my own parlay so i just have to go off of like something that's being suggested um okay this was the four pick parlay that i had uh let's see these were the legs of it uh the seahawks had to win by five points or more which they did drake may had to throw an interception which he did he actually threw two uh the uh travion henderson had to catch at least one pass which he did and then the total score of the game had to be under 45 and a half points and i hit all of that a 20 bet netted me a 145 us how much did it net you sorry 145

yeah well yeah for all i don't know i mean you'd think it'd be better but you would think so by

the way i immediately cashed everything that i profited over 50 i cashed out on the plane this

morning so i'm back at 50 oh interesting oh that's interesting i would see you as somebody

who would leave it in there and i don't well i had like i won like five hundred dollars oh nice i don't need five hundred dollars because my aj barner bet was like 250 and then i had then i had the seahawks just to win just to cover but um i don't need that i'm not a i'm not a 500 air yeah my um draft kings account that it'll just sit there kind of languishing so anyway that's one of the rare examples of uh of of you know a gambling idea that i had that actually sort of kind of worked out but that was the other thing that i was just i was trying to use my my bets as a way to force every conversation i was having at the party back into being a sports conversation because there was just you know again there was a range of how much people really cared about the game but there but there was also just there was a few times where i could i could feel the conversation going in a direction that was not nick emanwari related

and i didn't have any time for those conversations can i just move the conversation to something that i brought up a little bit ago that i actually really want your take on and i've been thinking about it the past couple of days is the seahawks fan gear i was in this is going back about a month ago maybe a month and a half ago i had this strange sort of moment at fred meyer the grocery store fred meyers fred meyer meyer meyers fred my your that's one of those specific northwest things where you don't put like a Nordstrom right okay I think it's Fred Meyer I was at Fred Meyer the other day and I hadn't been in Fred Meyer in a while and it's a very we've talked about it a lot it's a very big grocery store that also has a lot of home goods and its origins were actually more of a home good electronic store etc now it's a big grocery store all of that is to say because of the mix of different products like that I was near the the checkout lanes and they had a little mini display with some Seahawks you could get some Seahawks tote bags or whatever you could get some t-shirts and it was the first time that I actually I think I realized like oh yeah JSN you know our wide receiver Jackson Smith and Jigba it was like they were the shirts of him and it had been so long most of the Seahawks like jerseys and stuff I see are still sort of holdovers from that from the era of the Legion of Boom and the Super Bowls and like the you know the 20 teens and then I mean certainly I mean tons of you know Russell Wilson stuff back in the day and then And, you know, I mean, I'm assuming you would see some Geno Smith jerseys. I'm not really sure. It seemed like things were static for a while.

And now there's an entire village somewhere wearing Geno Smith Seahawks jerseys.

Right. Well, and Raiders jerseys. And it was a poor, poor village. But anyway, so it was sort of interesting for me. I was like, oh, yeah, JSN, like that's going to be the go-to person who's going to be plastered on some sort of like ill-advised design, plastered on the front of some gaudy t-shirt right and then I was mentioning to you that I actually really enjoyed seeing these pop-up stands around the city the past couple of days it made it made it feel like I was in a real city and I consider Seattle a real city so I don't even know what that means and I don't mean it as a dig but there's something a little bit LA-ish about it just like yeah totally hey we're going to the Super Bowl it was like these little reminders maybe because again I didn't have that fire in my belly about this matchup as much as I did against the Rams in the previous two matchups. And so it was sort of like, we're all just kind of cruising pleasantly into the Super Bowl, but then like to see these pop-up stands outside of a train station, somebody just selling like rip-off bootleg stuff, I loved it. And it kind of reminded me like, get into this. Like there's an energy in the city right now and you should get into it. But what I wanted to talk to you about was who are we celebrating other than JSN on the jerseys and the fake jerseys and the t-shirts? And are we going to start seeing Darnold now? It really made me think that the city, even though we've been so excited and we had literally the best Seahawks record in history with him as our quarterback, you just don't see Darnold jerseys and T-shirts the way you would Russell Wilson, who was like sort of like, you know, kind of came up not through our system, but, you know, was signed as a rookie with us and was always a like Seattle Seahawks, you know, kind of icon and figurehead and all of those things and like Darnold after this are we going to start to see more Darnold stuff or is Darnold just not the kind of player at this point in his career where the Seahawks fans are going to be kind of rallying around him at least sartorially

this is such an interesting question because of course the big narrative around Sam Darnold all year has been and I guess really for the last couple of seasons is like okay he was taken I think number three overall in the draft everybody thought he was going to be a really good quarterback and then he was on some lousy teams and everybody thought he was a not good quarterback and now he is he is he has changed the minds of all the haters and he if he was going to win the Super Bowl that would prove that he you know is a good quarterback but he also is really dogged by two things that are the opposite of swag one is missing a game because of mononucleosis and having the graphic on the screen and instead of saying out with a hamstring and just injury it literally said out with mononucleosis i think that's the first time that's ever happened in

nfl football out indefinitely i think it said in mononucleosis as he points right at the camera

out indefinitely because he misses his mommy would be the only thing that could have created a more anti-swag situation and then the other uh the other thing was when he said he was seeing ghosts which by the way i don't think that's fair like that became this so he was playing in a game where he was having trouble reading the defense and he was having a poor game and he said on the sideline i'm seeing ghosts out there which he was mic'd up right and i think that was that against the

patriots maybe this is when he was playing for i think it might have been against i think he was

a jet at the time maybe but like everyone like that was this iconic moment i don't know i thought that's not the weirdest way to describe to like probably your quarterback coordinator, your quarterback coach, your offensive coordinator. Yeah. I'm, I was seeing something I thought was happening. That wasn't, and I threw it in the wrong place. I'm seeing ghosts out there, but that sort of was added to the like Sam Darnold is a mess lore. And so the question is, and he wasn't the MVP of the Superbowl. He game managed, which was great. He did not lose the game for us. He had a couple of nifty plays and critically he did not turn the ball over. but like now that he won a Super Bowl I'm sort of wondering aloud with you will next year we see a lot of people in Darnold jerseys I am predicting yes because the quarterback is still kind of the face of the organization or a big face of the organization I mean I see people with Rick Meyer jerseys still like who is that I don't think I know Rick Meyer he was a guy that we drafted out Notre Dame and he was supposed to be the next Joe Montana who would also come out of Notre Dame and he was not although I do believe he set the Seahawks rookie quarterback record for most wins which I think was something like six but like my point is that if you are a NFL quarterback there is going to be a certain percentage of the population of fans that are going to buy your jersey because you're kind of one of the marquee players and I think now having won the Super Bowl I'm predicting we will see some Darnold, you know, some Darnold love and representation in the next season. The funny thing is, don't buy that Ken Walker jersey yet because we don't even know if he's going to still be a Seahawk.

Oh, I wasn't clocking that because I was going to say, I did mean to say earlier, I would say the second, even before the Super Bowl MVP thing, I would say that the second most popular, I'm guessing here, but I feel like the second most popular jersey for a Seahawks fan is is canine Kenneth Walker and I uh I did not realize though that he his contract is up and so wow yeah he might not be a Seahawk next year oh boy that'd be tough and that's the whole thing

you know not to get too NFL-y about it but like there's been this kind of move in the NFL to sort of devalue running backs like people just don't pay a lot of money for running backs anymore it's kind of seen I guess as a sort of a position that as long as like you're blocking correctly and you have a good offensive scheme there's a lot of people that can have success at the position which was not always how it was it was like running backs were the heroes the Walter Paytons of the world these were like you know the people that I grew up idolizing but um so Ken Walker is the MVP of the Super Bowl you can't have a better thing on your resume when you're coming back in to uh you know to resign your contract so I don't know if they're going to um you know pay him the money that he'll probably be offered somewhere else by the way something really adorable about ken walker the third he's the third right yeah his dad is ken walker jr is that how that works does it go junior or is it the second and then the third uh skip over the second wait hold on

well i don't know if we're talking about him in particular or generally speaking in life because i don't know anything about him in particular but generally speaking in life like yeah i have In my family, there's a Frank Walsh and a Frank Jr. and a Frank III.

Oh, it goes from Jr. to the third.

Yeah, I think so, because there's not a word. Junior is second, right? Gotcha.

Okay, okay. So his dad is Ken Walker Jr., and his dad was at the Super Bowl. And what he said in the post-game press conference is that his dad, he's from, I think Ken Walker is, he played at Michigan State. I don't know if he's from Michigan, but he said basically his dad comes to Seattle for a lot of his games but never comes to the stadium because he is really uncomfortable around crowds oh interesting so his dad had never been in the stadium for one of his pro football games because of his like aversion to being in crowds but he went to this game because it was that important and his son was the MVP which I just think is the most charming thing I've ever heard

you know what I learned yesterday when they were introducing the Seahawks is that A.J. Barner who won you a couple hundred bucks yesterday is from Aurora, Ohio. That is literally where the fiberglass factory that I worked at was in. I lost track of that sentence. Don't anybody diagram that sentence. I just started throwing words in at the end. But you remember, so outside of Kent, Ohio, is a place called Aurora, Ohio, which I believe might have at one point been home to a sea world, which, by the way,

way there should not be a place for that in aurora ohio yeah you want to talk about the first sign that sea world wasn't making the right decisions based on animals well-being was that they tried to create a sea world in aurora ohio i could be wrong about that but that is where um omega pultrusions was as well the company where i probably did some major damage to my lungs by sandblasting fiberglass for eight hours a day.

Do you know what the J in A.J. Barner stands for?

Oh, I would like to know. J stands, A.J. Barner. I don't know what the A stands for. I'm going to take a guess here. It stands for Andre Jackrabbit Barner.

You're pretty close. It's Albert is the A, and his middle name is Javante. Oh, really? interesting for a white guy yeah have not met a lot of white javantes in my life that's it was a it was an interest that was i was quite surprised during the uh the endless sort of weak lead up media stuff where almost nothing interesting is ever revealed that was an interesting one to me

i'm not i'm i'm not saying this to argue with you but i was just clicking around here now i'm on a.j barner's wikipedia page and it says aj barner albert frank barner the fifth is an american professional football tight end is somebody messing around because i don't know if you know this but frank does not begin with j why is he aj barner if his real name is albert frank barner or am i being fooled by pranksters on wikipedia well i think what's happening andrew is maybe

i'm being messed with by albert frank barner because he said this to someone who was interviewing him he said it was Javante and now when I'm looking it up on the internet and I'm I'm on my I'm doing this on my phone but I think I'm getting the like the AI response although it looks a little different and it says the Seattle Seahawks tight end born Albert Javante Barner confirmed this in a recent interview segment where he discussed his name full name Albert Javante Barner but then if you go to his Wikipedia page it doesn't say that so I'm wondering if he was just messing with that the person who was asking him what's the j stand for but why would it why

would he have a j at all if it actually is frank that's what i'm really confused here because it

sounds better than a.f barner that's if you're the most if you're the most barner you can be you're

a.f barner oh that's funny yeah that i would for some reason that sounded maybe it's just because of the rug company near me it sort of feels like take your rugs to a.f barner to get them cleaned A.F. Barner is going to treat you like family What? Yeah, I'm very confused about this But I guess it's not going to do me a lot of good Trying to solve this on the fly

Yeah, I don't know Maybe A.F., A.J., whatever his name is Barner, maybe he was just having some fun With the person interviewing him But it's made its way onto the internet It's becoming canon, at least in some corners of the internet Well, my friend, I think we have some donors to thank And then I better skeedaddle here going to be filming some stuff this week. I'm doing a story about an art show that's happening at the Broad Museum here. And I'm also working on a story about NCIS. Yes, the television show, NCIS. So much to report over the next couple of days from here in LA, but I need to get to some of that. So could you be so kind as to cue up our donor music? All right, we need to thank some folks who are making TBTL possible on this Monday. This is 100% listener-supported podcasting five days a week, even on days when I forget my entire audio kit. Andrew, when I tell you I broke out in a feverish sweat standing outside of LAX waiting for the lift to get there with both of my suitcases on the ground unzipped. I was going through them like Uncle Billy in It's a Wonderful Life trying to find the money that he lost. I was like, it's got to be in here somewhere. I'm pulling out underwear. I'm looking under dop kits. I cannot believe that I forgot my stuff. I never do that.

And I understand that feeling that you had and that panicky feeling, but also it's kind of amazing that out of all of the times you've done a trip where you have to do TBT on the road that you'd never have. You have a pretty good track record. So I guess what I'm saying is don't let this define you.

I'm having a hard time not having it define me right now. But you know what the issue was? I left my house on Friday because I was in Portland with Beck. I had Livewire Friday night. I've been discombobulated. usually when I leave my house

I have a whole system. Everything goes in a certain place. And then I go directly to the airport. There was too much packing, unpacking in my car, out of my car. There was too much going on for my normal system.

Did you go, and this is a personal question, and I'm not just, you know, I'm not trying to get in your head. But did you go a little wild yesterday, too? And does that add to the feeling of possible guilt?

i didn't go very wild because i was worried that if i became too inebriated i would become uh like a real weirdo at the game watching like i would either i'd like i would snap at somebody unnecessarily i just i didn't trust myself to be drunk around people i don't know very well while the seahawks were playing in the super bowl so that's not as much a factor but i definitely like on the plane I started to do this thing in my mind which was like did I because I put all of my microphone in my little thing called a mix pre I put this all in this one tote bag and that goes in my suitcase and I was trying to visualize if it was in the suitcase or not and then I was panicking and then I talked myself into being like of course it's in there it's always in there it's never not in there and then when I got my luggage from the luggage you know the baggage thing and then I unzipped it and realized it wasn't in there i was devastated luckily i had the world's nicest lift driver super sweet guy and i was like i need you to take me to a best buy if you want to just drop me off there that's totally fine if if you're okay with it i'm going to sprint in there and i'm going to get this thing and i'm going to come out it's going to take less than five minutes but if you don't want to wait i get it totally goes no no no problem i'll wait i was like okay so then you just saw a lift pull up to the best buy in culver city well to a mall in culver city you saw a nearly 50 year old man me jump out of the car and start sprinting towards the mall sprint into the best buy ask the first person i saw do you sell usb microphones and he said over there i they have a whole section called content creators andrew at the best buy now and and it's an industry it's an industry town and i ran over to content creation and i looked at the different microphones i it was a yeti that was like a couple hundred dollars there was a one that looked like my normal microphone that was like 300 and there was this one that i'm using i sprinted to the back of the best buy and i asked the check because that's where the checkout is i think they don't want people stealing stuff so they make you go way to this back area and i asked the person there i said can i please open this box because i need to see what the connectors are in here and if it's going to be the right thing for me and she said absolutely not you are not allowed to open the box she said you have to buy it first and i said doesn't that defeat the purpose she goes well you can get the warranty and then you could return it i was like i'm just gonna buy it so i did and and then um sprinted back through the best buy the wrong way like away from the exit back to where i came from sprinted out past the pf changs and then busted out the door and ran back to my uber and i think it was less than or my lift i think it was less than five minutes i'm picturing you

just stop you just like you pass the pf changs but then you just go back for just a yes one helping of orange just ferris bueller style you just pluck one piece of orange chicken off of

somebody's plate then go running on again what i learned is i am far too old to be running in that sort of a situation it's not it's one thing to go jogging or whatever but like to be like it looked like i stole this microphone you know i come sprinting out of the best buy i'm in like nor you know i'm in jeans and a black sweater you know and like normal shoes like i'm not dressed for exercising and i'm just fully running with this microphone box under my arm it looked like i like i just took it off the rack or whatever like it's unsettling when people see me running in a non-exercise environment is what i'm trying to say you weren't holding it very calmly like

bad bunny holding a football in the halftime show which i think we're gonna have to talk about that

tomorrow we have to talk about that tomorrow dude like that has a football ever been held so lovingly i mean carefully i we we cannot we cannot open we cannot open that that can of conversation because i have so much to say about how much i freaking loved that halftime show I thought it was probably the best halftime show I've ever seen And I didn't know one of the songs Yeah, none of the words As a piece of art I thought it was maybe the best halftime show I've ever seen Anyway, we'll talk about that tomorrow Right now, what I'm here to talk about, Andrew, is Tiffany Heiner Who's in Vienna, Austria

Hey, an international donor today Thank you, Tiffany

Tiffany tuned in for the tissue talk

That's right

A lot of stateside people were like What are they going to say about the Super Bowl? Tiffany was like, God, I hope it goes to tissue talk today

Somebody's got to address this at some point

You know what Jennifer Ferdinand Of Kenmore, Washington tuned in for oh digital rights management that's right i am another topic we covered i need to i need to get my hands on that thing i gotta figure i gotta figure that out that drm thing i was googling around a little bit i can't i can't find anything that's so bizarre i wish i would have had

you there i really was trying to channel you a little bit i'm not kidding like i was because i was running into various problems and i was like andrew is really good at problem solving this stuff i feel like every time we do a thon or a remote broadcast there's a point at which it seems like the technology is not going to work and you just like stay calm you're like sam darnold in the pocket you shift you shift you shift slightly to your left you let the defender go past you and then you just throw a laser to jsn which is my nickname for the sure microphone that

i use yes and sometimes sometimes i throw a football that's way too close to the high synth projector, and it really freaks me out. And sometimes I do that like 10 times in a row, but it always works out fine. It always works out fine, but sometimes I really freak myself out.

There have been a couple times when you were seeing ghosts.

Yes, certainly.

All truthfulness. Thanks also to Stan Blade, who's in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Thank you, Stan. I believe a place mentioned by Bad Bunny yesterday.

In Canada, specifically, I don't know about Alberta specifically, but Canada for sure. And also, I think we always shout out Stan. I mean, again, obviously made-up name, Stan Blade, but a great made-up name. And that's why we celebrate you.

We hope you're enjoying your time in the Witness Protection Program.

That's right. It's awesome.

Stan Blade, Atlanta Falcon. Thanks also to Denny Goulet, who's in Edmonds, Washington. Look at this beautiful little kind of synchronicity. We've got Edmonton leading into Edmonds.

Ooh, I do like that. Very similar sounding places. Yes, similar sounding. This is an example of how everything comes together, right? We're talking about different countries, completely different cultures, but so close in so many ways. And that's what Bad Bunny was talking about.

He sure was. And then we've got Kate Ropel, who's in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Yes, she is. Thank you, Kate.

Kate, thank you so much. and thank you for the pronouncer on your name because I think I've been saying your name wrong for the last five to ten years. You think so?

You think you've been saying Rappel?

I think I've been saying Rappel. Oh, maybe. Rappel. Here's what I would say. I know Kate's been supporting the show for a good while, and I don't think Kate would have put the pronouncer in if I was pronouncing it correctly.

If that makes any sense. Oh, that's interesting. Maybe. Although I do encourage everybody to put in pronouncers, even if you've been a long-time donor the next time you fill out any form If you go back in and add a pronouncer, we will try to, because I, not to get serious here, I actually, sometimes we joke around about mispronouncing people's names and our audience has been and our listeners have been so generous and they roll with the punches or whatever. But sometimes names really are important, right? Absolutely. Like when when I can't remember the comedian's name, ironically, but when he was sort of awarding J.S.N. his his what was it, best offensive player in the NFL, whatever the award was like he he like in a spoofed on his last name, Smith and Jigba and messed it up several times in a row and then laughed it off or whatever. And I think a lot of the Seahawks and a lot of his teammates were like, this is this man's name. And there's a reason like he took his grandfather's name and it's important and it's not a punchline. And so all of that is to say, if, you know, if you don't want us fumbling around, definitely zip us along a pronouncer.

Yes. We joke as a defense mechanism.

Yes.

Because sometimes if I don't know how to say someone's name, I have to try to turn it into a bit. But I would rather say everyone's name correctly.

Yes.

So please do. I will not be offended if you email in to say, hey, you've been saying my name wrong or here's how you say my name or whatever. I would like we would like to be as accurate as possible for everybody, including if he decides to donate Jackson Smith and Jigba. Absolutely. In fact, how flippin cool would that be? One day we're just going through the names and we're like Kirkland, Washington. Oh, look, that's where Jackson Smith and Jigba is. Wow.

That would be that would be really amazing. I got to say, I get excited when I see Steve Nelson's name. But yeah, Jackson Smith and Jigba might be a close number two. Yeah.

Well, listen, thank you so much, everybody, for hanging out with us today. Again, peace and love to our friends in the Northeast and people who celebrate the Patriots. Y'all had a great season, and this, for me, officially buries the hatchet. So, Andrew, I may be next year where you are, which is to say kind of aimless when it comes to a Seahawks-Patriots rivalry, because I was carrying around some hurt from the interception. Yeah. Oh, by the way, and the fact that there was a bet on DraftKings that was, will the Seahawks throw a pass from inside the one-yard line? Yeah, I had heard about this.

That's an amazing bit of trolling, too. That's Jordan Hudson level.

And also having Malcolm Butler be the person who kind of rang their opening bell. That was the one time I felt a little bit like, oh, screw you all. That was a troll move right there.

But beef is squashed, and peace reigns throughout the land, at least of football.

Beef, squash, those are both foods. We'll talk about commercials tomorrow as well.

Definitely. Oh, stop trying to make it a food thing or whatever he says to McConaughey. He literally says that.

He says beef, squash. Those are both foods.

Yeah. All right. Thanks, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. In the meantime, have a great Monday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

And good luck to all. Power out.