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All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Don't miss the Sausage Fest. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host, Carol Hold Michaels, coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia where it's not raining, so that's kind of a win. It's also not that sunny, but we're going to take it here on this Thursday edition of the program as we've made it to episode 4762 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Seattle was recently awarded a, not really a prize, because they didn't go around giving things to the residents of Seattle, but like the Seattle hot dog.

What's courageous about eating a hot dog?

It was declared the best hot dog in America by the New York Times. We will go through the other hot dogs that it beat and try to analyze if the New York Times folks made the right decision or not. Also, is Jackass, the movie, that is, the latest Jackass movie, which is allegedly going to be their final movie, because some of them are in their late 50s now, is it actually the template for masculinity and how it should actually look?

Two bros, bro, hand it up.

An article in the New York Times has me thinking about that. Also, it's a Thursday, a.k.a. a Blur's Day.

Blur's Day today.

Do some Blur's Day messages, and we'll say hello to this guy. Longest-running co-bro of the show may be best known for his depictions of tall ships. As he always says, it's... Scat man's world. And we just live in it. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now.

Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke, and welcome to a conversational choose-your-own-adventure. For the beginning of the show here, would you like to talk about cut-off jeans or the large hadron collider?

Did somebody's pair of jorts fall into the Large Hadron Collider? Because then we could cover both topics

It would be nice if we could somehow cover both

We've figured out a way to speed up jorts

I am wearing actual cut-offs Not shorts that look like cut-offs

As we are recording this program

I can't see your lower half

you are wearing cut-offs cut-off jeans they do effectively hide my thunder although they are kind of similar in color and i would say vibe as tobias funke's cut-offs in arrested development there are dozens of you i mean here listen you know what this conversation is actually about the lack of denim available these days have you noticed this you can't just well maybe i'm an idiot i haven't tried that hard but it seems like back in the day you could just buy jeans and now whenever I buy anything that sort of looks like jeans online there's some sort of synthetic material that might be a little bit stretchy and I don't even totally hate those except that they start to fade like immediately they just seem like kind of everything seems cheaper oh wow oh you can hear the audience getting younger as I talk everything's getting worse um but I had this one pair of jeans that I loved and loved and loved and I wore a hole in the knee and then I was like well I can't quite throw them away because I feel like there's something special about denim these days so i just cut them off i'm just wearing cutoffs but see i'm i'm shocked to hear that

you're wearing shorts of any kind for the show because uh even more so than i am you are a person who you know you dress for the job that you want to quit which is co-hosting tvtl exactly like you you you know you wear collared shirts you in my experience always wear pants

I always wear toe rings, always at least one toe ring on each. I asked you to stop. At least one toe ring on each toe.

Yeah, and one of those, you got one that is clearly turning one of your toes green because it's made out of a very, you know, I had a Mickey Mouse ring when I was a kid that turned one of my fingers. The finger was on entirely green, but I didn't take it off. Can you describe the ring? Well, it looked, I think it looked, you know, like it was made of brass or something. But it had, so it was, you know, it had a little kind of, you know, what do you call basically like a gem in the middle of it But instead of a gem, it was like a little, almost like a curio of Mickey Mouse

Okay, so it was a little bit three-dimensional It wasn't like a flat depiction of him that laid flat on the top of your finger

No, it was a kind of a brass ring that had, you know, a flat spot on it that then had a little white piece of plastic kind of glued to it And that thing had Mickey Mouse on it

Okay, I think I can picture that.

And I loved it so much, but it did the classic kind of thing, which is like, oh, that's going to turn your finger green. It absolutely happened to me. Oh, wow. I have not had that. But what has you wearing shorts? Are you dashing off to some sort of picnic or barbecue after this? What are you doing wearing shorts?

Well, I mean, I'm glad you're sitting down for this, but I mean, I wear shorts for the past several years, I believe. For years and years, I wear shorts quite a bit during the show.

What?

Yeah, I often wear, during the summertime, during the summer times, I barely change what I'm wearing, even by my usual slovenly standards, like, I just, I have, like, you know, I used to have, like, three or four pairs of, like, almost identical shorts, but they were just different colors, I don't know if they, I think they were maybe from Target, maybe they were that Target brand, not, Targus, Targus, what was the Target brand, not Mossimo, right, that was something else, but.

I think it might have been Mossimo.

Okay, well, these were not Mossimo. I think at some point maybe Target licensed it or something. Okay, anyway, these were just like, you know, not my taste in shorts is very kind of basic. I just want a plain, straight-faced short that doesn't have any extra pockets. I don't want pleats, and I don't want extra pockets. I definitely don't want cargo shorts. I'm kind of surprised by that, because you do often carry stuff around, and you could use the cargo pockets. I don't like the looks. I don't like the looks of a cargo short, but I do like, but these were like, you know, I would traditionally just have like a, you know, a stack of like kind of canvas, various colored shorts that would look generally presentable. And I mean, I never presented them to you apparently. But yeah, so I usually wear that and then a pair of slip on shoes. That's my summer look. Listen, I need, I need to know not if I can trust you, but if I can trust John Sklaroff here because i will show you my cutoffs here on the screen but i do not want this going public and i'm being quite serious about this if there's any risk of john taking this and me showing off my cutoffs to you and putting that on instagram or something this isn't a bit by the way that i'm doing i literally do not want this to go public well the thing is there are three people that

work for too beautiful to biz yeah two of them would love to see your gams online yeah one of them wouldn't yeah so i'm just saying you have a kind of a sort of a structural issue here john and i could outvote you i'm gonna remain seated that sounds good do you know that um again and i consider myself on some level to be the maybe slightly more casual dresser of the two of us as it relates to when we record the show um because sometimes i'll have shorts on too maybe i'll still have my running shorts on or what have you and there have been times a runner before a run yeah there will be times where i will honestly like think oh i want to go get something out of the fridge here in the studio but i won't want to get up because i won't want you to see that i have shorts on yeah don't give it away for free no because i'm because i have been operating under this assumption i'm being totally serious that like you would never wear shorts to do the show I've been wearing shorts for years And that you would be judging me ever so slightly If you saw me get up to go get Like some half and half out of the refrigerator And you saw that I was wearing shorts So I've been feeling embarrassed About my shorts wearing behavior Because of my assumption that you would never do that

Let it fly my boy Let it fly Now I'm not saying I won't judge you But maybe I'll judge you positively

You are right about the challenges And this is a A very senior conversation to have but like in fact the um the levi's that i'm wearing right now which are full pants and i don't care oh look at that yeah i'm wearing pants and i don't care those are good those

are good classic jeans that you're wearing there i remember those but guess what i have andrew

i have two additional pairs or pair i have two more of these that I bought on the internet that are allegedly the exact down to the like you know i did the old man thing which is i like these jeans i you know what i bought these i bought these jeans from the levi's store in times square in new york okay i was with becca i don't know what had happened maybe an accident somehow i needed pants and uh and because i wouldn't normally go to the levi's store in times square i mean that's like, very touristy, very, you know, full of people, just not where I would normally be going and getting my clothes. For some reason, I needed jeans. I went to this Levi's store, and guess what? I love these jeans so much. They fit nicely. They, you know, I like the material, et cetera.

Do you know what the number is? Are they 501s? I can't remember what my Levi used to be.

They're 501C3s, so.

Yeah, that's probably what I need to crack into to afford actual denim these days.

um they're i think they're 501s um but i liked them so much that what i did was i was like i need to get additional pairs of these and so i i noted very very carefully and very specifically exactly of course the waist size the length what the you know i just i like i i went online and i bought the exact same pair of jeans from levis.com and uh and in fact i bought two pairs because that's how whatever i am and they show up and guess what they're not exactly the same they're a slightly different material they're denim but just got a little more stretch in them a little more something even though by all description they should be the exact same product this is

really important for me to know because i've been thinking to myself like i've been going to whether it's like everlane which is where i think the jeans i'm wearing now came from like years and years ago again i literally these were good solid denim pants that i over the years have worn a full hole into the knee leading me to cut them off and so you know it takes a long time to do that i'm not like out there like i'm not i'm not crouching and holding footballs for i'm not a place kicker holder. What do you call them? Placeholder? Placeholder. I am a placeholder. Wait, is that really what they call that? No, that's not what they call that person. When you brought me on to TVTL, you said you were a placeholder. I said, fair enough. And you still are, and don't forget it. Absolutely, no. You better start showing those legs off, buddy, if you want to keep this interim position. But you know what I mean? It takes a long time to wear a hole in a good pair of jeans if you live my kind of lifestyle, and it happened. So they were very old jeans, is my point, And just something has happened in the world since then. But, again, I buy my pants from an Everlane, or maybe not. It hasn't been Everlane in a while, but like Stitch Fix I'll still use sometimes, which, you know, sources from various brands and what have you. And I get some pants that I like, but they're never jeans. And I've been thinking, well, I guess what I have to do is just go to the Levi's online store. I wasn't thinking about Manhattan. I was just thinking, I'll just go. I believe there's a Levi's store in Seattle, though, right? Oh, is there? Well, then maybe I have to do that and actually touch those things because, I mean, that is the thing these days. Like, you can't buy anything online because you don't know. It's going to look normal, but then it's going to show up and it's going to be, oh, it's a miniature that I bought or it's made of synthetic stretchy pants. And that's Genevieve's job, we all know. Yeah, to buy things. Oh, that little bowl. Miniatures, yeah, Genevieve.

Was that really the price that you quoted me? I saw that she posted it on Instagram, this little bowl, I guess.

It's a miniature. It's like the size of, it would be like if you were making a little play about mice who are holding a tea party, this would be a bowl that would sit on the table between the mice. Would you agree that that's about the size of the bowl? Maybe slightly bigger?

It would be a salad bowl for mice. Yes. I want to be clear.

No, you're right. Not a cereal bowl.

I mean that, though.

It wouldn't be a cereal bowl.

It would be a salad bowl.

Yes, you're absolutely right. So, okay, listener, what part of a salad bowl for mice don't you understand? But, okay, so here's the thing. Yeah, you want to talk about this a little bit. So Genevieve, and I don't have her information in front of me. Otherwise, I would totally promote the hell out of this. But Genevieve went from being a pretty casual online. Yeah, she might have posted on Instagram now. I think that's where I saw it. No, she came into the room with it the other day. No, I know, but then later.

And she had a little bouquet with it

She basically Photo styled it And you're sure it's that one? Because here's the deal What I wanted to mention was She has a couple of online stores I think she was selling on eBay and now she's on I believe, what is the other one? Etsy, I think she has her own Etsy shop now Oh yeah, there it is It's her tiny little bowl Oh yeah, she put a penny next to it to show how big it is And then two mice Eating healthy Two mice. Where'd she pluck those? Those are leaves from my bubblegum plant. This is shocking. This is how you're finding out that. I leave social media and I find out Genevieve's been barber. What's the word I'm looking for? Why can't I ever think of the word for when a human being eats another human being? This has come up in a meeting the other day. Cannibalism. This came up in a meeting the other day.

Honestly, if there's words that you can't think up off the top of your head, that's not the worst one to not be able to think of.

No, it's not. Do you know what the weird thing is? I literally got a text from my buddy. I'm going to leave all names off of this Because you might hear this I got a text from my buddy Right as you were starting the show Right as you were starting the show And he is referring to his son here Who I believe his son is maybe about 16 years older About that He says my 16 year old just asked How much of a person do you have to eat To be considered a cannibal Do you have any thoughts And I wrote yes my thought is therapy No I take that back Not any amount I think you could eat

You eat a finger You're a cannibal I think First of all I think you could eat Some amount of a fingernail Or a toenail And you wouldn't be a cannibal

Somebody else's

Yes Oh yeah Well no I mean I chew my own fingernails I don't consider myself a cannibal I think you could eat You can see yourself fine Or young Uh huh But two out of three I think you could eat Someone's fingernail Or toenail And you wouldn't be cannibalizing them because it's not it's like they're not going to die from you eating it. It's not even going to really hurt them. Let's just say that they clip their fingernails and then you go and you pick them up and eat them. You should still have consent, I feel like. But if you ate part of their nose, you would, I think, be a cannibal. You put hair in the nail category? No, hair is keratin. It's in the category of fingernails and toenails. You could eat someone's hair, fingernails, or toenails. And that's it. And not be a cannibal. But if you start eating. But then also I feel like intent matters. What if something sloughs off of them? Anything that sloughs off of them is fair game.

This is awful.

This is the worst. Let's go back to talking about my short shorts. Did your friend in the text, did they also answer the question? No. Or just pose the question?

They posed it and I said take him to therapy and then that's the last.

Tell them that the official ruling on the matter is anything that sloughs off or could be consumed without it causing pain to the main dish, a.k.a. the person who's been cannibalized.

And it has to be already removed by the person. Like, you can't go chewing somebody else's fingernail. Or can you?

And is this a money-making opportunity? There's got to be something on the dark web where people are paying, and let's be honest, it's dudes, are paying to chew someone else's fingernails. That has to be a kink.

This is rough stuff. Anyway, I don't know.

I heard a comic saying that if you are attracted to them, it is a kink. They're like, if you're attracted to me, then that is officially a kink.

Yeah, no, I can definitely relate to that. Can I just tell you something? While we're talking about really gross stuff, I just got icked out so bad for a second. I didn't even want to tell you about it. But now I realize what it is. And this is weird. I mean, this is a weird show today, and what I'm about to admit to you is actually quite embarrassing.

For the listeners who can't see this, he has a bag of human toes that he's sifting through.

That is not true. But let me be honest with you. I'm sitting here. We've established that I'm wearing shorts. Yeah. You and I are talking. I reach down to scratch my shin, the front of my shin, right? And I feel that there's something stuck to it. This just happened a second ago, and I'm like, what is this? and I touch it and it's almost like a waxy kind of thing and it's very thin, but I'm like, what? And I don't know what it is, it's on my shin and so while you're talking, I just peeled it off and I was like, I don't know what that is and I just threw it in the garbage can and I didn't want to talk about it, I didn't want to think about it but I'm in the back of my head thinking like, what was it, that was not a sticker. It didn't seem like it was a sticker. I was like, is this some sort of food? Is this like a slice of cheese that somehow got to my shin? Keep in mind, I don't even eat cheese but that's as gross as that sounds to anybody else. especially disturbing to me. Now I can't find it in my trash anymore, but I just realized what it is. It was the tiny sliver of bar soap that was left from the shower. So I don't know what your routine is.

Oh, that's like the least gross thing that you could have had on your body.

Yeah, I mean, it's actually soap, but it is weird that I was walking around. So what I do is, do you use bars of soap in the shower or are you a body wash guy? I'm a bar of soap in the shower,

no washcloth guy.

Yeah, me too, for the most part.

Which I've heard from some of my black friends is a very white thing. Really? I've been told that not using a white... washcloth is very white coated. Interesting. And I will be honest with you, I grew up in a home where we didn't ever have a washcloth really in the shower. There was like a bar of soap, which is, if you think about it, a little gross if you're in a house with a bunch of people and there's just a bar of soap and everyone's just grabbing it and using it and kind of sort of applying it to whatever parts of their body they do. On the other hand, it is soap. Yeah. So it raises the question, is the soap sort of self-cleaning? itself as it goes along like if if a bar of soap has been on somebody else's sort of unmentionable area was the soap also sort of cleaning up behind itself and upon itself before you then apply it to

an unmentionable part of your body after everything that we've said leading up to this conversation i can't believe that there are still things that are unmentionable i know because i feel like we mentioned some pretty pretty unmentionable things uh no that's a i i so you don't keep an extra bar of soap in the shower to clean the bar of soap that you use to clean your body? I have two bars of soap. I have the soap that I use to clean my body, but then when I'm done, I take the other bar of soap and I clean the first bar of soap. Don't turn this into spotless. You have a place

for these thoughts, sir. You have a weekly place. So I assume that you do something similar to me,

although speaking of spotless, I mentioned this move to Hannah Brooks Olson, my co-host on that show, and she was not familiar with this move, which I just, I couldn't imagine what another move was but like i use a bar of soap even as you use the bar soap it gets smaller and smaller and smaller obviously and then eventually it's like a tiny little sliver that is too small to kind of use so what i do is i take the new bar of soap out of the box and then i take the the little sliver and i kind of press it onto the new bar of soap and then kind of like i'm going to lather it up a little bit so it fuses together and that's how you get the last use out of that tiny sliver of soap it ends up kind of fusing to the new bar of soap do you do that i don't think that i do that but it sounds fun and i would toss it you just toss it when it's too small i do and it feels

kind of wasteful no i would just maybe toss it in the in the bathroom waste basket i guess when i'm cleaning if i'm cleaning the shower one of the one of the things that i'm doing is analyzing where we're at with the bar of soap and if the bar of soap has that's the really the when i change it out and if it's gotten down to sliver status uh then i'll just toss the sliver out i'll get a new bar of i think i'm currently going with irish spring yeah that's one of mine yeah i like i

like the greens i go back and forth between the greens and the oranges in fact doing this move that i'm talking about where you fuse them together this is exactly what i was dealing with right now my last bar of soap was probably dial you know what i mean when i say oranges so It was that sort of orangish color that dial soap is. And my new bar of soap is an Irish Spring-esque thing. I don't know if it's Irish Spring or something similar to that, but the green kind of marbly look. And my orange soap, my dial, was a tiny, tiny little thin little sliver. I fused them together. Doing a Neapolitan. Orange on the green, exactly. Okay, do you want to know my... And then the orange sloughed off onto my shin apparently when I was showering today. I had them fused, and then they unfused apparently. and I didn't realize that

they consciously uncoupled

and I guess all morning I've been walking around nobody has seen me but this little sliver of soap stuck to my shin which is like I feel pretty exposed

that again of all the things that could be sticking to you that is without a doubt the least gross thing in fact it's an agent of cleanliness still weird here's my first of all i take about i know you like to take a good long shower sometimes you and you sometimes do multiple showers in a day i i don't think other than i can't even think of a of an example but other than just very specific circumstances i am never in the shower for more than three minutes and this is exactly what those three minutes look like step into the shower it's already running because I want to get to the temperature that I like, step into the shower, get wet from head to toe, put a dollop of my very expensive anti-balding shampoo into my hand. It's Nioxin. Put that on my hair. Leave it in because you're supposed to let it kind of, I don't know, penetrate the scalp or whatever. So that's the very first thing I'm doing because I want that in my hair or my scalp for at least the three minutes I'm in the shower. Grab the bar of soap. Get a lather going. Armpit. Armpit with the soap. Armpit. Soap into each armpit. Then get a really big hand lather going. Put the soap back onto the soap dish in the shower. Go for... with the front and the back unmentionables, but with my hands, with very soapy hands. So I guess, actually, if you are at my house, Andrew, and you do want to take a shower, that soap is not as gross as it could be, because the soap has not touched those regions of my body. My very soapy, lathered hands have touched those regions of my body. And then I reach up, I get the soap again, I reset the lather, I get a little more lather, put the soap back and then I hit my feet and I'm realizing I don't think that I really wash my shins I think I called out the mummy years ago for never washing his legs or feet he said he just felt like the water he also let's just say had a sporadic bathing schedule but I remember him saying something like oh no I never wash my legs or feet that's just like the water goes down there when I'm showering and I thought that was pretty weird but but you know the other move that I do part of the reason that I don't have the bar of soap for my feet is because I want my hands to be very soapy because i do this move where and again it's funny because i'm describing it to you but it is so unbelievably muscle memory and like subconscious when i'm doing it i don't even think about this but i get again a good lather i go down to my foot i wash the bottom of my foot the top of my foot and then i lace my fingers between my toes my soapy fingers between my toes and then i do the Same thing on the other foot, top of the foot, or bottom of the foot,

top of the foot, lace my soapy fingers in between my toes to get the in-between-my-toes parts clean. And then we stand under the water. Gene Siskel would love this, by the way. If you don't know what Andrew's talking about, it's a website that he goes to.

Called GeneSiskelWouldLoveThis.net. Yes. No, we learned yesterday from watching old episodes of Siskel and Ebert that Gene Siskel appreciates a good sex scene in a movie. And isn't shy about telling you. And really tells you what he expects.

When he's disappointed that he didn't get enough Mickey Rourke. You know, Mickey Rourke did something very interesting recently, Andrew. The actor, Mickey Rourke, who's kind of had an interesting life. You know, he was, I think he was kind of a critical darling when he made like Barfly, right? That's kind of, is that literally based?

Was that a critically heralded movie?

I don't know if the movie was. I think there was a period of time where Mickey Rourke's acting was considered very naturalistic and kind of, I think, appreciated. And Barfly, that's sort of Bukowski, right? Yeah, yeah, Bukowski. Is that a Bukowski book or something?

It is based on, I believe, a composite of a couple of his books or stories or whatever, but he was definitely, I think he wrote, I don't know if he, I think he might have written the screenplay. It's definitely a Bukowski movie, yeah.

but so Mickey Rourke was in that and then wasn't he in the um Pope of Greenwich Village or something I think that was his I think that was his like maybe more so than Barfly I think I think the Pope of Greenwich Village or something he was you know he was considered a breakout role and he was kind of um again appreciated for his acting because he was kind of non-traditional in a lot of the ways that he delivered his lines and did things and then he uh you know ends up in yesterday I thought you might have been referencing gene siskel referencing nine and a half weeks where basically i think mickey rourke and kim bassinger just the whole movie is them just having sex it's

it's really i feel like i don't i don't think it's the whole movie i think that that is how you and i remember because we heard about it as little as young heard about it or rented about oh you did watch the whole the whole thing is sex i did not i thought that no i'm not listen

i'm not i'm not saying that the whole thing is sex i'm saying i did watch it as like a 14 year old yeah um with my x-ray glasses on yeah it didn't help it's x i wanted her to be more naked than she is sex forward i do know that it's extremely sex forward and it made me think that in adulthood i was going to be integrating food into much more of my sex than i'll be honest i have can you leave your hat on that's what i want to know it's it's very like like thinking back on it now as an adult who has had actual sex it's it almost that movie almost seems sort of like i don't know like someone who has not had sex's idea of what really racy sex is like it feels like there's a lot of like opening the refrigerator and like taking out strawberries but then like smashing them into like someone's face like you could you could your memory of it

very easily slips into a sort of a naked gun style sex scene where it gets really no you know

i'm thinking of disorderly starring the fat boys where they just kept throwing pies at each other um but so then he you know that was kind of i you know even that movie i don't think anyone thought the movie was good but he was still kind of i don't know he was making he was making

was being you know hired by big hollywood directors then i think he kind of fell off for kind of a long time he was also an amateur boxer this whole time he was into that and then of course he goes through he has a number of kind of it would appear regrettable plastic surgeries and procedures and he's i don't know if he ever had substance use issues or if i'm just conflating the movie barfly but like he was kind of like off everybody's radar and kind of just doing bit parts and this and that and then they put him in the wrestler remember that was his big kind of return his big sort of redemption you know bring him back we like mick or you know we think mickey rourke is a really good actor or whatever and then i don't know i guess he just didn't quite sort of capitalize on that or whatever and so the story about six months ago or maybe a year ago was like mickey rourke is 60 000 behind in his rent and the paparazzi kept snapping pictures him coming out and getting door dash in front of a i would say fairly modest home in los angeles that he was i mean it was shocking to me that the rent back rent on this home could ever end up at sixty thousand dollars because it's it wasn't it wasn't like he owes sixty thousand dollars of rent on his mansion that is thirty thousand dollars a month like this appeared to be a home where the rent couldn't have been more than you know fifteen hundred dollars a month or something um but i was pretty struck by the fact that i'd never occurred to me that i'm always kind of shocked when i find out that somebody in hollywood particularly a guy has been wearing hair pieces or wigs the whole time oh which is strange because like you know they wear all kinds of particularly in movies you know guys wear all kinds of prosthetics and you know the fact that like billy bob thornton is a very very bald but it's just always wearing a hairpiece in public John Travolta

Is he wearing a hair piece? I thought he was just covering it up with bandanas and cowboy style hats and what not

I think he's doing that too but then sometimes I'll see him being interviewed and he just has hair and it's like I'm always like I feel like Billy Bob we know that you're wearing a piece but on the other hand it's like who cares and people augment themselves in all kinds of ways and you know women often wear makeup and stuff and I'm putting Keratin fibers into my Head of hair called Topic To make it look more full By the way, you can eat someone else's Topic and it's not cannibalism Because it's keratin fibers I'll let my buddy know So they start a GoFundMe for Mickey Rourke Because he's $60,000 In arrears Also I thought, well maybe lay off with the DoorDash If we're $60,000 behind on the rent Let's go ahead and go to Vons to get our own food

Although, it must be hard to go to Vons if you're Mickey Rourke

i'll tell you without the hairpiece nobody's recognizing this guy ain't nobody recognizing this guy including me i was like who is this who is this wizened bald uh very kind of frail looking individual and they're like mickey rourke steps out amidst back rent issues so they raised like a hundred thousand dollars on this go fund me and like the next day mickey rourke is on tv going, I did not set up the GoFundMe. I did not ask for this. I am not accepting the money. He was incensed that they had set up the GoFundMe for him, and he turned the money down, and has since been evicted from the house.

Oh, jeez. This is really bumming me out. Well, you

rarely see somebody turn down like $100,000 like that.

Yeah. Can I play something for you here? Please. It's 30 seconds long. This better be one of the sex scenes from Nine and a Half Days. It is. You can leave your hat on what your new vibe is a double-edged sword Much like the kind Mickey Rourke tried to kill me with oh, everybody born before Jesus is in hell They went straight

I'm gonna have to reinvent you break you down completely and build you up from scratch Just like Mickey Rourke did to me sexually Did you see last night's ratings the only show? I've ever been on that got a 10-2 is when Mickey Rourke threw me out of the field during the Super Bowl simple trip to Ikea No, Liz, don't test it, especially this early in a relationship. It's like when Mickey Rourke tested his catapult on me. Wow, I was almost listening. Where are you going? You never take my advice. Miss Barone. Oh. Nice try, Hazel. But you made the same mistake Mickey Rourke made on that catamaran. You didn't kill me when you had the chance.

We need to talk about what you did.

Well, you know what they say, boys. If you can't stand the heat, get off of Mickey Rourke's sex grill. Say, Mo, these are for Mickey Rourke. No, Tracy, put them down! I just found out that I won this Women in Entertainment Award. First you get married, now you're winning an award.

Ward, these are my things. Next, you'll tell me Mickey Rourke catapulted you into the Hollywood sign. Okay, I'll stop it there.

No, please. If there's more. There's about, I don't know, maybe 10 or 20 seconds more. Absolutely. Let's go. Let's just keep going here. Oh, no, I messed up where we are in this. Here we go. Catapulting and catamaranning with Mickey Rourke.

You'll tell me Mickey Rourke catapulted you into the Hollywood sign. Liz, have you seen Jack today? He just came into my dressing room and started crying. He's in a really bad place. Like when Mickey Rourke... Okay, I can't do this anymore. I've never met Mickey Rourke.

Oh, I kind of liked it before she gave up the ghost on that. Yeah, God, I love that so much.

I was going to say, clearly one or more of the 30 Rock writers are our age. And we're like... And just grew up vaguely knowing that Mickey Rourke was in movies where he has... And also in real life is like having sexcapades, right? Wouldn't you say that that would be, if I was like, what do you think of when you, well, certainly having listened to that, but I mean, just generally, as a kid from the 80s, if somebody said Mickey Rourke, you'd be like, isn't that a guy who has sex in movies?

He's very sexy, but in kind of a greasy, kind of scary way.

Yes, exactly. But anyway, he turned down the money, which I was surprised to see, because that is just not.

Other than surprise, what are your feelings about that? Because I'm sorting mine out still.

Well, it's sadness because I feel like when I see, not that someone's socioeconomic status is the defining characteristic of anyone's life, nor should it be, and I don't want to sort of like, you know, not economically, but financially shame him, but it's like, it makes me wish that he would have been a little smarter with his money when he was making. And I say this as a person who has not been smart with whatever amount of money. I mean, honestly.

You haven't been smart with our money, with your money? No, I'm just joking as we head into the thorn.

Speaking of which, TBTL-a-thon 17, jumping for joy.

Leap Day William edition is coming up. I would like to say that I think you really put your finger on it because that's what I was thinking, too. It's not that it's that being poor or even just not being well off should make anybody sad. Absolutely. It's the fact that we know that. I mean, this man was a Hollywood boy. I mean, for a long, long time, he had more money at one point in his life than we will ever see combined, you know? Yeah. And and and so therefore, you know, inherent in this story is a story of loss.

and bad decisions i wish that everyone who was either a pro athlete or a hollywood star or a television star would have just used their first you know 10 paychecks to just buy real estate in los angeles and then you'd just be set up anything other than that you know be it cars i don't know drugs vacations is just like such a waste and and when you had all that money and you could have locked it down and then just been kind of set and you didn't. Yeah. That's much more sad than somebody who's just always been kind of economically maybe on the margins or maybe also didn't prioritize money. I know a couple of folks, I know a married couple who are both attorneys and they're just, they just do a lot of pro bono work and they just like work on causes and things and people that they find important like socially and they're just they just don't care about money and they just they drive old cars and they you know have a very small carbon footprint and i actually really admire that you know i mean i think that's a cool way to be so the idea is that like it's not that not having money is something that we should uh feel pity about it's that mickey rourke could have been in with better decision making uh he wouldn't have been $60,000 in arrears On a rental that you and I Andrew would not even Want to rent in you know Somewhere in LA yeah I can't understand how

You read it was definitely all rental I feel like yeah because like

TMZ or somebody Interviewed the landlord Because Mickey Rourke said something like oh no this is Or his handlers or something said no no this Is like a just a this is just a misunderstanding And the landlord was interviewed by TMZ was like it's not a misunderstanding

he hasn't paid rent in like two years yeah he's misunderstood how to pay his rent to me

the man who speaking of tmz uh they are they are doing god's work out there in dc as as um as we were sort of hoping you know they opened up tmz dc a while ago and people were talking about how like sometimes

tmz reporters i mean obviously like there's a lot of that tmz stuff that's kind of a bit trashy and a bit de rigueur but like it's funny to turn them loose on like dc press culture because there still is some kind of um decorum and i think you know the the certainly the politicians taking themselves very seriously and then the reporters kind of taking themselves seriously because they cover the important people and then you just throw you throw a guy in whose job previously was standing outside of LAX trying to yell for uh you know RuPaul to stop for a picture you know like these are hard-bitten streetwise agitators the TMZ crew who are now like throwing queries at Pete Hegseth in the exactly and breaking news on the reflecting pool I think they were at the tip of a spear on that and then we're like you know just like the i think tmz was like literally one of the first outlets to be like hey this pool is really messed up right now i just was i was scrolling

through i found my i don't know if you ever do this i found myself with a new follower on blue sky and whenever i see a notification new follower i click on it because i'm always curious who is this person is it even a real person i think more and more they're like kind of bots um but i saw this when he seemed to be a real person and so i was scrolling through his timeline and he hadn't posted all that much and so you didn't have to dig very far to get back to like a couple of weeks ago when the reflecting pool news was you know all over the place like inescapable and there was a video of it was like when they finally just shut the whole thing down and and again i'm assuming this is real um they shut the whole thing down they put some gates around it and some fencing around it and some guards and there was an automated voice i mean you've probably heard this that basically said please no no loitering here please move on to your destination or whatever and to have that automated voice as if it's a paul verhoeven movie at something that is literally called the reflecting pool is reflecting is no longer it is beyond parody that's why as i say this can i be right about that can did i get fooled by the internet well definitely the fence is a

real thing one of those you know temporary uh oh you know one other thing on that uh did you hear that the parks department had to go on the record accusing saying that there was in fact someone had used a box cutter to cut the liner no do you know this no this is news to me it's you want to talk about verhoven it is okay so first trump says you know they're gonna put this literally he said like i don't want to give anyone any ideas he goes but this thing is so this liner is so amazing that they're putting on i don't want to give anyone anyone ideas but you couldn't cut it with a knife if you wanted to so he says that uh-huh then of course there's the whole algae bloom the they dump a bunch of hydrogen peroxide into the reflecting pool to try to kill the algae which hydrogen peroxide is for home ear piercing guys it's not for and uh and hair dye right it's for dying your hair it's for it's for lightening your hair and home ear piercing it is not for trying to get rid of an algae bloom in the reflecting pool um but then because of that and other things obviously the liner started coming up in pieces and then trump started saying well no it's been it was cut by vandals he just started telling the media that and he said and then he kept changing the length of the cut he said that there was a 250 foot slice in the liner which he had said could not be cut with a knife but now he said vandals had cut then he started saying it was a 350 foot which is i think like you're like changing your blade in the middle it's like oh a hundred percent like i think is that 350 feet that's that's a football field right probably because a yard is three feet it's a hundred yards so his contention was that somebody snuck into the reflecting pool with a box cutter got down on their hands and knees or whatever maybe they brought scuba gear i don't know and cut a football field length slice in the middle of it which side note was not even where it was coming up you know what i mean it was coming up on the corners because that's how stuff works you have this thing that was not properly adhered and probably wasn't designed to be doing this and so the corners are coming up and flopping or whatever so he's saying well someone got in there with a box cutter and cut it and the reporters are going including tmz i'm not kidding we're going what what's the evidence of that and he goes um i don't know ask the park service they'll tell you so tmz goes they find where the particular park service offices that's in charge of the reflect pool and it's like in virginia somewhere and this guy this kid just goes in to try to find out what is the evidence of the vandalism of the pool of cutting the pool and nobody there can answer

him they give him the email address of the press person and they're like they give him a post-it note with the email address of the press person and they're like email this person to ask them about the cutting of the pool liner so he never gets a satisfactory answer but more and more people are asking and then like two days later the national park service or whoever's technically in charge of this issues a statement that says the the pool liner was cut with a knife they have yet to provide any that i've seen visual evidence of this they haven't explained they have not expanded it is very clear that the dear leader pressured them to put out a statement that said that it had been cut uh i think that actually i do think that they said something about like somebody along the side where there was some glue someone had done something i mean it was so obviously a thing that they had to say because donald trump had said that there was vandalism and it was cut and so at some point they had to support that they had to support his statements And I don't know why that of all the things That are going on in our world Just broke my heart

Because it's the parks department right Because you just think of them as being like

Well they were absolutely But they were already and I don't blame the good people That work for the parks department or the national parks Or whatever but like Clearly whoever runs it At this point is a complete you know Apparat chick and Whoever is handling their twitter account Is similarly an apparatchik because they were the ones that were like the reflecting pool looks amazing like that all of their social media posts were like straight out of north korea even when it was algae bloom they were taking pictures of it from these angles that you couldn't see the algae bloom and stuff and that was their official like twitter feed which also kind of broke my heart what is apparatchik well i think of it as being a sort of soviet like a person installed in like the sort of Soviet bureaucracy to do the work of the party.

Okay, that, yeah, that I can.

But I don't know.

Who's our listener? I'm sorry I'm blanking on her name, but do we have a listener who compiles all of the interesting words that we use during a year of TBTL and then sends us the list? I think we read some of those, right? Yeah, and so maybe that, hopefully that'll make the list.

I'm kind of happy with it. I kind of got pretty close there. Aparachik. An official bureaucrat or loyal subordinate within a political party. Hey. Fantastic.

All right, show's over. Let's see how close I was on this, although I'm sure the audio will be terrible.

Loitering is not permitted in this area. Please proceed to a designated location. Thank you for your cooperation.

Oh, my God. That is so messed up. I want to hear it just clearer here. Huh. Now we're just seeing the guards walking around, so I don't know if you'll hear the announcement again. But you could hear that robot voice kind of, or the loudspeaker voice in the background.

The place where Martin Luther King Jr. gave the I Have a Dream speech.

And again, is what's happening on the campus, on the mall, the most important thing that is happening in the world right now? No, I saw what is the organization that tracks all of the kind of abductions of ICE, ICE Out, I believe. I was looking at the map, it looks like they're not making the headlines like they were because they're not marching into town as kind of obviously ice isn't and creating the same headlines that we saw in Minnesota, but ice abductions are up here in Seattle, which isn't surprising me with the World Cup and everything going on, so I mean there are terrible, terrible things happening. It just happened south of me in

Woodland, Washington, there was some, you know, there was a crash, like a car crash because some ice apparatchik was chasing someone and you crashed into their car you know it's still happening it's you're right it's not it's not the headline but it is still happening so anyway i just mean

like the horror i understand that of all the horrific things that are going on it's not just the the obvious stuff by the way we're talking about showers before you were describing your shower i was going to tell you exactly how i showered today don't worry it involves less toe play. It was in the jorts. There are dozens of us! Dozens! This is a true story, and this is highly irresponsible, because as you said, I like to luxuriate in my showers. Here's what I do. I turn on the shower. While I'm waiting for the shower to get up to the right temperature, I take a quick look at blue sky. I scroll. I land on a David J. Roth article about the great American state...

or whatever it's going on, and what it symbolizes and everything, I start reading that while the water warms up. Water is warm. I just take my phone into the shower with me

and stand under the water for a while as I finish reading it. Reading your reader's digest in the shower. True story. I have a strong tradition of reading in the shower. Basically, the technology finally caught up with you.

That's right. Weirdly, my electronic phone is more water-resistant to the 1978 copy of Reader's Digest that I was reading humor and uniform out of. But David Roth, what, saying? Oh, just, you know, you know how he's always just, I mean, I'm not gonna, I can't synthesize it here. He's just an amazing writer and just talking about, you know, what it represents and just like, you know, how it's an extension of the Trump presidency itself.

You know what I saw that absolutely broke my heart yesterday was archival footage of the, and I know we've got to get to the Blur's days. Oh, the Blur's days. i'd forgotten about the blurs we've got we've and we've got we've got tbtb business today we've got all kinds of stuff going on but i saw archival footage of the bicentennial so 76 yeah when we were born yeah you're 76 too i'm 76 and um it was just so wholesome because it was not politicized it was about and i mean who would have been president in 76 was that ford maybe or something i thought it was harder but maybe year one carter or something probably carter it was just like it was just kids eating freaking watermelon and corn on the cob and like people celebrating this country and and the again the the ideals of this country which we never live up to but which um are something that i think are laudable and and just like to see how much better this was 50 years ago it just broke my heart uh you know compared to to what what this guy created for the you know 250th like he just he like everything he just fucking ruined it would it uh lift you

up a little bit to hear that you were correct when you said ford because at this point i think well it depends on when it was happening but carter would take office in 77 he won the election of 76. So Ford would have been overseeing that.

I see. So, yeah, gotcha. So, yes, and now the show is officially over. I got Apparat Chickwright and Gerald Ford's presidency.

Birthdays. You got them. We celebrate them.

Actually, people say that every time I play that goat sound, it makes their goats go crazy.

Yeah, I know. You've got to stop doing that. This is the segment where we wish people a happy Blur's Day. If you'd like to wish somebody, including yourself, a happy Blur's Day, email me andrew at tbtl.net put blursday in the subject line the first message today goes to vernon in toilla utah oh good by the way i looked nice i looked it up i mean i listen maybe you give me credit for doing my prep though you know because i will say that i was looking at this and i was like oh i think i know how to pronounce it then i double checked myself before the show

and i was pronouncing it wrong in my head so i'm glad i did it luck is the intersection of

Preparation and perspiration, okay? That's what everybody says. They also say the separation is in the preparation, Luke, and that's how I separate myself out from all the other Blur's Day readers out there. So to Vernon, happy late 60th Blur's Day, Papa. And by the way, Luke, here's where I will insert a, and you don't believe in a God, says, although your dreams of a national park's golden ticket may have been crushed, We hope that this year is filled with fun travel and events that you'll sigh about, but have a good time doing anyway. We love you so much. Love, Allie, Cassie, and Maddie. The Palmers. That's right. Our Tuila 10s. Yes. Mike says, writing to wish Puddle a happy ninth Blur's Day. It's been a big few months as I know. Nine years. Nine years. It's been a big few months as we moved from West Lynn back to Redmond, and it's been great starting new traditions, like riding our bikes every Saturday to the coffee shop and keeping old traditions, like sleeping in a tent in our backyard on your birthday eve every year. Oh, that's awesome. Your mom, Langley, Winston the dog, and I love you very much.

very much i'm wondering if something's going on with mike yeah is he on the run yeah because that family is you know they're mobile they moved down here i ran into them eating a burrito once in portland randomly and uh now they're back in the northwest isn't mike also the boss of somebody

that we know or who's a listener we were talking or we're getting a message from somebody who is It's an accountant. It's Mike the Accountant. I have them saved in my phone as Mike the Accountant, and it always sounds like an...

That sounds like someone that's going to do some kind of crime for you.

Yeah, is there a movie called The Accountant that is like an action movie? Because I was going to say it's... Ben Affleck. Okay, yeah, because when I see Mike the Accountant, I'm always like, oh. Yeah, he'll come take care of whatever it needs taken care of. Well, happy Blur's Day to Puddle. Thanks for all the jokes over the years. Keep them coming. Yeah, keep them coming, by the way. Here's a note here. Happy actual Blursday to our new five, Declan. Is that how you'd say that? D-E-C-L-A-N? Declan? This week has not been the easiest, but we are happy to finally be home. You are the sweetest baby, and your mom and I love you more than you'll ever know. Welcome to the world, Declan.

When they said, okay, I guess they said newest five, so of course that would be newest baby. I was hearing it as newest 10, so maybe Declan was like 45. and just got turned on to the show. But no, we're talking about a baby baby. Yeah, baby, baby, baby. I'm taking the notion.

Congratulations, gang. Joe in Polsbo says, I'm wishing a happy Golden Mellers Day to my newest favorite, Takomi, KDC. I'm so glad we met and that we get to hang out semi-frequently. I think that combined, we have probably listened to 35-plus years of TBTL. Oh, my goodness. Have a great birthday and see you soon.

You know who I think? I mean, we may have a few Joes out there on the Olympic Peninsula, but I'm thinking of the same Joe. I think this is our friend Joe who was on Jeopardy. Oh, Joe in Holesbo? I believe so. And when I lived in Bellingham, I remember picking up Thai food from this. God there was There's nothing better than just having like a Thai Place that you love that makes The stuff just like you like it They had a place like that in Bellingham We'd always go there and I was waiting to Pick up an order and I look up on the TV And it's Jeopardy and listener Joe is on Television and I'm trying to explain to everyone That that's my friend on Jeopardy Although at that point I don't know if we'd ever even met I was starstruck to see Joe on Jeopardy while I was picking up Thai food

I love that too because so many times We'll hear from listeners who say oh I referred to you guys as my friends when I'm talking to my other friends. It goes both ways, just so y'all know. Happy Blurs Day, KDC. Erica says, I would like to wish my five Matthew a very happy ninth birthday. He asked for a no-mountain-too-tall shirt for his birthday and asked me to send you a picture of him wearing it. He is very proud of it. Mom loves you, kiddo. Was there an included photograph? There most certainly was, and he's rocking that shirt. Yes, I will forward it to you i don't i'm not reading these from my email program right now so i'll have to do it after the show but um he's sporting it it looks like he's um at an ice rink maybe the one here in seattle um and you can see some the rink is behind him and he's wearing it it's like the uh the kind of reddish color it's really cool nice looking good thanks for being our spokesmodel yeah happy blurs day matthew oh boy i've been kind of anxious about this one okay i am pausing here not because i'm anxious about it but because i have a cough in my throat hold on one second okay sure i couldn't mute my mic but uh hopefully the music covered that up taylor says this blursday is golden luke's banker is jewish my kristin dior next year she'll be 44 happy golden 43rd blursday kristin i hope this one is the best yet and that the royals don't do anything embarrassing love taylor that might be kind of a tall order these days by the way those those boy i know that we are a suffering fan base over here in seattle but man those royals are a suffer in they get they had the worst loss statistically in their history last week lost something like whoa that's an old franchise too 22 to 1 they lost um and i i think to the chicago white socks and as people were saying on the postgame show because yes sometimes i listen to the postgame show of royals i don't by the way seattle needs a postgame show with callers like I miss that so much I think that I think that the Mariners know

as a very itchy organization shut that down now the postgame show on the radio is just like all of their employees all the kind of talking heads all the broadcast booth people giving their spin on the game there is no radio show where people can just open the phone lines and a host can be angry about the state of their team well the royals do have that his name is verne and i've been listening to it and as he pointed out they lost by three touchdowns in that single game it is 22 to 1.

By the way, when you were reading that, the listener doing the kind of play on the Knicks, Knicks in 4 or whatever, it reminded me that, you know, Mexico is advancing through the World Cup, which just makes me so freaking happy. Like, when I need to recharge, I just watch videos of older Mexican guys and Mexican-American guys crying about Mexico getting in, but this is my new favorite thing. My beer Corona, my steak

asada mexico one two to nada oh that's great right love that so are you i really have no idea like who's in who's out i know that there's a big croatian game today because our croatian friend is like on pins and needles she was even saying like she doesn't want to she was going to go watch it with some friends i think but she's like i might just have to be home for this one which is a very luke and andrew kind of emotion towards a game but like is the field narrowing and is are you Is your rooting interest still the United States? Are you rooting more for Mexico, or what? You always think I'm judging. I'm not judging.

I'm laughing because I bet on Bosnia to beat the U.S. yesterday. Oh, really? Only because I was getting, like, crazy odds because everybody thought the U.S. was going to win. And who won? They did. They did. 2-0. My thought was, if Bosnia wins, I'll make some money on this bet. And if the U.S. wins, I'll feel happy because it means that the U.S. is advancing to the round of— I think it's the round of 16. We're in the round of 32, but the team's at advance. So Croatia is playing Portugal today.

Oh, and it must be a tough matchup because our buddy Anita is freaking out. I think Portugal is really good. I don't like these U.S. uniforms, and it's not about the fact that it's representing the flag. They just look, when you see a bunch of fans wearing these, it looks like a weird reverse wears Waldo. I'm with you.

Yeah, I'm not super into that look either. But I am happy that the U.S. got into the first time since 2002 that they've made it this far in the World Cup. But anyway, go Croatia. Yeah, I'll be rooting for Croatia.

So you're rooting for, generally speaking, kind of Croatia, the U.S., Mexico. That's how things are shaking out for you. Or is it whatever CalC, I'm sorry, what is your investment app that you use? CalC. CalC, whatever CalC points you towards.

no i i actually uh here's my here's how it works for me i'm always going to be rooting for the country that is more brown if that makes any sense so unless it's the u.s if it's like france against ghana i'm rooting for ghana if it's like if it's the netherlands against columbia i'm rooting for colombia okay i'm rooting for the country that has a population that i feel more um a sort of like i want to see good things happen to and i'm not trying to conflate you know uh the idea that you have a country that is more brown and that you know everyone there would be living in poverty that's of course not the case but it's like i just don't i don't care very much if switzerland wins like switzerland is playing algeria today and who do you think i'm rooting for algeria like i just i want to see teams from countries that have maybe not had everything always go their way win that's my default setting if i if it's not the u.s if i don't have a rooting and that's basically the only rooting interest i have i'm at that point then just going for the country

that i think could use it the most okay but overall though you're still you would like to see u.s

carry the trophy i guess i don't know i don't know i'm all you you put your poison inside me It's like I do kind of want the U.S. to win, but I don't know. Like, for instance, Cape Verde, or as we now apparently call them, Cabo Verde. They're playing Argentina. I don't think they're going to get past Argentina. But if they did, if it was like Cape Verde versus the U.S. somehow, I think I'd probably kind of be low-key rooting for Cape Verde.

Just underdog. I mean, that's me. Yeah, underdog. And again, I'm just not following this at all, so there's no poison for me to put in you. But I do tend to root for underdog teams. I just mean from the World Baseball Classic. a world baseball classic but that was just a different thing like i knew the teams and the personality of the teams in the u.s was pretty onerous so or odious i should say so anyway um that's that's interesting well yeah i've really like honestly like you mentioned that the u.s played yesterday i might was i the only american who didn't even know that how that game turned out possibly i believe so turned out possibly but yeah and i'm not trying to be obstinate about it it's just

Like, I just, I don't know. I'm just not taking the, I don't know how I'm missing. Now that you mentioned that, I'm like, oh, yeah, I heard them do, like, a sports update earlier in the day saying that that game was coming up. But I just haven't been paying close attention or any attention.

There is a sort of a political valence, too, to the World Cup. And we really, really do have to go. So I'm sorry I'm belaboring this, which actually would make it seem possible that you would kind of get into it. Because I do think it's sort of slightly more like liberal coded, caring about soccer and caring about, you know, following, knowing that we're supposed to call it Cabo Verde instead of Cape Verde. You know what I mean? It's sort of, it's got a certain. And what is Turkey? Yeah, Turkey A. Turkey A, yeah. Is what we're saying now and stuff. So I could kind of see, like, if there was a, you know, a semi-annual, a big sport thing to get into, I could kind of see you getting into the World Cup just because it's generally appreciated by people like us, PLUs, as we used to say.

Did you see that Trump and Vance have decided not to visit Seattle for the next U.S. tournament?

I did not see that that was the official decision I was seeing, the speculation as to if they were going to go. And like, part of me, well, first of all, I'm just happy that his stink isn't going to be in Seattle. But also, it would be kind of fun to see them just like, to see that feel, that crowd just light him up. Yeah, yeah. There ain't a national anthem loud enough to drown out the booze at Lumen Field like they tried to do at the Madison Square Garden. So, does that music mean we're done with the show? I think so. Excelente. Thanks for listening, everybody. uh we are going to be back here tomorrow with a special we're calling it a holiday edition because it's july 3rd but it is a federal holiday so uh we may bring you a slightly abbreviated show tomorrow but we will be here we'll be doing new content and we hope you can join us for that so uh have a great rest of your thursday go croatia and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

power out Let's go.