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And I'm Jack Spear. I'm Nora Rahm. I'm like, yeah.

From, is that what? Larry?

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Damn it. Isn't it Janine Herbst? I'm Janine Herbst. I'm in for Larry Mantle. That's a good one. I'm Ari Shapiro. I'm Windsor Johnston. I'm Mary Louise Hirsch. No, it's Mary Louise Kelly. I'm Mary Louise Kelly.

This is Marketplace. Ari Colvin? That sounds like it should be one. I'm Rachel Martin. Maureen McKinney? On the BBC News Hour. Is that Jack Spear? This is Marketplace with Sabree Beneshore.

And I'm Kai Rizdahl. Once you say one, then I can't, that that's the only one I can hear. That's the only one that's there, yeah.

On all things considered, I'm Elsa. Jane. And I'm David Barncaccio. It's Weekend Edition. I'm Aisha. Roscoe. Love Aisha Roscoe. Ari Shapiro.

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Hey, you either get it or you don't. I don't, but I am so excited to be a part of it.

It's romantic, and it's full of these sort of situations, which turns out to be that it's very interesting, very scary at times, but also a lot of romance and really well made.

Can I blow your mind right now? Chris is laughing because he knows where I'm going with this. It's nothing like when your lips contact a skinless strawberry. Do you understand that this strawberry was created to be loved? I don't even know what that means. No one knows what it means, but it's provocative.

Well, all right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Wednesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. The words mean nothing. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. He's got riz, like he just does. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia where it's kind of a cloudy but I realized muggy day here.

I feel warm and I'm levitating.

On this Wednesday, I'm halfway through a giant container of sliced watermelon to try to regulate my body temperature and put me in the exact right physical and mental space to present to all of you episode 4766 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Counting it down. Just a couple more days before we head to Valley City, Ohio for TBTL-Athon 17, Jumping for Joy, where we'll be there as part of the Valley City Frog Jump Festival. In the meantime, though, we've got some food news to talk about on the show today. Welcome to Food News Today. Apparently, Pizza Hut is tired of getting out pizzaed, and they're going to try to do something about it. They are going to, well, we'll tell you in a moment. Sometimes you've got to stop and smell the pizza. I don't want to hide the pickle on you, but you're going to just have to listen to hear what Pizza Hut is doing. Also, 7-Eleven, you know that paragon of incredible design and branding? 7-Eleven is very mad that Nike is, they say, ripping them off for some of their shoes. How dare you? We'll talk about what's going on there. And we'll talk to this guy. He's always got a story on a Wednesday morning. He's the longest-running co-bro of the show.

From my point of view, it's a beautiful story. I love your story.

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. After years of being negged by my cat, who apparently loves me to death but does not love me as a podcaster and leaves the room every time I crack a microphone, we're trying it out with another pet. We've got Lucy down here today. She's been chewing on ice cubes and chewing on some bone here that our friend Katie gave her as a gift this weekend, and she looks pretty blissed out and is enjoying herself.

Step, Lucy has never audited the podcast before, right?

No, you know, I was thinking about this. It's kind of hard to explain, but I feel like literally in the past, I don't know, five days or so, Lucy has gone, has made some major strides in going from being a puppy to our dog, which I didn't, I don't know if that really makes sense, but like there was just when she was a brand new puppy, as I talked about a lot on the show, she had to be like kind of constantly watching, constantly cared for. And, you know, if you turned your back on her, she might be peeing somewhere or she might be, you know, rummaging.

through a garbage can and getting into stuff she isn't supposed to get to. She's a relatively well-behaved dog. We haven't had any major disaster or anything about her chewing anything that she shouldn't be chewing that's been super valuable or anything. I hear horror stories about that. She's been pretty good, but she's still a puppy. And now, I don't know, this weekend I told you I was working out in the yard for almost like four days straight and just had her with me at all times. It was just kind of like wherever I went, she would go. And now the basement is like a place where she can be, and we can trust her not to treat the basement like the outdoors, a.k.a. a toilet, if you know what I mean. And so yesterday, Genevieve and I had to record a couple of episodes of After These Messages because I'm gone next week, and so that was a long time. We're just like, let's just see what happens. Let's just let her down here. And she was very chill. She was very chill for the first episode, a little rambunctious. One skill that I am learning is I've learned how to play fetch and podcast at the same time. But don't worry, I'm not the one fetching the ball. I'm the one throwing the ball. But, yeah, and then today I'm just like, why don't you just come down here with me, chew on your little bone, listen to the, I hate to say it, but the best side of the TVTL podcast. Sorry, Luke, they're both good, but, you know, Lucy prefers my side, and that's what we're doing. We're just chilling. Well, she hasn't had the option, really.

Well, yeah, no, I mean, honestly, I think it's unfair of you to make that judgment when she has not been presented with, you know, my side of the podcast.

Well, she does hear me editing the podcast, which means she hears me editing out everything. She hears you cutting out the parts where I'm talking. Well, not where you're talking, but your best parts. I just want to make sure that you're never putting your best foot forward. So you don't listen to TBTL, do you? You don't know what I'm leaving on the show. No, not a fan. It's not really for me. Sometimes to go to sleep.

Do you ever listen to it just to go to sleep? I've told you this before, and this is kind of embarrassing, But the times when I am most apt to listen to the show, which might be, I mean, honestly, maybe two times in a year, it'll be maybe I've had a few small beers and I get in some kind of a weird feeling where it's sort of like the thing we were referring to the other day of like, if somebody starts following you on Instagram, you might go look at your own Instagram to try to get a sense of what that person's experience is becoming a follower of yours on Instagram. Sometimes I'll kind of think I wonder what this show sounds like to people

And then I'll listen to it

A little bit of it And honestly probably just fall asleep listening to it I have the experience that many listeners do It's a really good sleep aid It really knocks me right out

That's what we hear So those are the occasions for me too Again it's very very rare But it would be like maybe if I realize somebody You know a friend of mine from IRL Or something is tuning in And I might be curious, like, oh, what did we sound like on any particular day? Or the other time I'll find myself doing it is it'll usually be like two days after I've told some sort of major stem winder. You know, I don't mean my usual just hog in the mic BS. I just mean like editing me out, showing up for your dog. Exactly. No, but you know what I mean? Like, I'm trying to think of a good example. Like, I haven't had one in a while, maybe, thankfully. But, like, remember that one show where I had, speaking of dogs, the kind of dog-sitting adventure that did not go very well. And it was very dramatic, at least in my interpretation of events. And so that ended up just being, like, an hour of me just telling you a singular story, sort of. Sometimes it'll be, like, I'll do that. And then that night I'll think, oh, yeah, God, I wonder how that came out. And then I don't touch it. But then maybe, like, two nights later I'll be, like, probably wasn't that bad, right? And then I just listen to the beginning of it. And then you hear the drops at the beginning. You're like, there's so much more to this show than just my bullshit. So I don't know why I said BS before. The show is getting bluer as I go on.

In front of your young dog whose virginal ears have never heard such things as the BS word.

See, and you're keeping it. Oh, I'm going to cut that out. But I appreciate you keeping it clear for her. But anyway, then I'll do that. And then you remember like, oh, it's more than just the one flub I said here. Like yesterday I flubbed. Remember I made several mistakes. I believe I referred to the January 5th riots that will live with me forever. I mean, it was just a small flub, but again, I don't believe I'm going around referring to the 9-12 attacks or anything. It's just sort of, and so that'll live with me, but then I got to remember, wait, there was like 90 minutes of other things around that, you know?

So generally when you go back and listen, it's kind of calm. it usually you you leave that experience feeling a little bit less bad about the whatever thing

was kind of stressing you out usually now and again i'm not talking about the flubs like yesterday i'm talking more about like if i told a long story i'm like i don't know man um but if i get like real rat-a-tat-tatty and i you know i'm in the middle of a story and i'm not even paying attention to which

Thank you.

words i'm using anymore i go back i'm like okay that that wasn't too bad i will be honest with you that is the majority of the time i feel better there are times where i'm like oh i wonder i should listen to tbtl and i put it on i'm just like oh god and then i'm just like i gotta turn this off i'm i'm annoying myself why am i doing this to myself and in my off time you know for me it would

be maybe more the opposite where it's like there's something where i was like man i really i nailed that like when i said that that was so funny or that interaction or like i'm thinking something was maybe a piece of tape or something was really good and then i'll go back and listen i'll be like oh that was kind of fine i'm i'm going back to pat myself on the back and i realize that's all right and you're going back because you've been beating yourself up and you're like well it's fine it turns out we meet in the middle we both yes fine hey guess what the podcast is fine i i

mean i'm making it sound like this is well no i mean we set this up by saying it's pretty rare that I go back and listen but it was much more when I was brand new on the show this is taking me back to like what was it 2012 when I started working with you like in your studio in Mount Baker you know I show up there either after our shift at Cairo or before my night shift at Cairo depending on the era but when I was brand new I mean you know I was sitting there I was a listener of TBTL I almost said fan I was a listener of TBTL leading up to that you know it was a big deal to be on the show especially in sort of like a regular role like that and you know jen was gone a lot of listeners were like we miss jen we don't love this dude which is totally fine and there was just like a lot going on and you know i was on facebook at the time and so i was seeing the feedback and there's a lot going on and i would leave the mount baker studio feeling really bad like bad bad well you know i mean i would talk about it at the time though too i think and then i would go back home and i'd be like oh this isn't so bad this wasn't so bad at all so i i did sort of learn early on in my tbtl thing that if i'm feeling bad go back and listen it's probably not that bad sometimes like i say every now and then you're like oh shit if this podcasting thing

doesn't work out i think i may have a future andrew in um spa and pool technology because i I pulled something off over the last couple of days that I was very proud of, which is, you know that, like maybe, I guess it was maybe last summer, I bought one of those big stock tanks. It's like that big metal round thing that if you have livestock, you fill it up with water and they come drink out of it in the like, you know, pasture or whatever. But it's become kind of in style for people to kind of trick them out and turn them into little like, I guess you could say soaking tubs or something. I mean, you couldn't call it a swimming pool. You can't swim in it, but you can sit in it And it does cool you down, I'll tell you, on a hot summer day because, you know, they're probably, I don't know, three, maybe three feet tall, three and a half feet tall. So I bought one of those, and it was actually pretty fun. Me and my parents were sitting in it on some really hot days. The problem is you fill it with clean water, and then, like, literally after one day, the water is getting kind of—it's not that it's brackish. it's not turning green it's just that there's so much particulate it's in the air you know cotton wood and just like dust and dirt and things and dead bugs and like pretty soon it's just kind of like the water is really gross and so i'd noticed that some people i saw online had put a like a pool filter on these things you can hook up a full filter which kind of moves the water around and sucks it into this one tube and then the kind of filter that i bought is a sand filter it's got this kind of egg-shaped thing that's full of this particular kind of silica that by the way does

not come with the filter i learned the sand does not come which is probably is not included good because there'd be a lot of that'd be a lot of shipping cost for something that is sand is heavy

yeah it's incredibly heavy actually i didn't expect that so i had to go get the sand you fill it up and um and then uh you know the idea is it sort of filters the pool and keeps it kind of clean now i started off um i was uh going to cut these holes and i was trying to figure out For some reason, I wasn't actually I wasn't home when I was doing this Maybe I was at Home Depot getting something else And I realized, oh, I want to Try to do this project, so I need to buy a hole saw I need to buy, not a hole saw But, you know, like that round Kind of

It's not a drill bit, it's not like The big round drill bit that you put on

It is, but actually, interestingly enough It is, it's a big round Circle, and it has a drill bit in the middle of it If you can imagine that And that goes onto your drill I didn't have the measurements on me I hadn't gone to Home Depot to buy this But while I was there, I was like, I should just get that So I go onto Amazon, which is where I bought the filter And I'm looking up the specs on it And it says inch and a half tubes or pipes So I get this little hole saw thing Whatever you want to call it, hole blade uh that is an inch and a half and then i get home and then i um figure out where i want to put these holes and i drill through the side of the the stock tank and there's no going back from that and then i go get the the pipes the little things and i realize they're way too big for this like it technically might be an inch and a half but the actual for whatever reason the actual um to push this thing through because you push it through from one side and then you tighten it down on other side it kind of clamps it together kind of you know along the wall of the of the stock tank it's more like three inches the open it needs a much larger opening and i don't know how i got confused but so i go and then i buy a larger kind of uh saw blade that's now like two and a half inches and i think okay i'll just kind of like push this in and i'll just i'll widen these holes you can't do that because you need when you're doing this initially the the the drill bit is drilling into the metal and then it's gripping and it's pulling the wider saw blade along with it so if there's if that if that drill bit is just going into the void it's got nothing to grip on it's got nothing to grip so i'm like you gotta be kidding me because this is like way too hard to try to snip this with tin snips or file it out because it needs to be like twice as big as it is so of course i have to call walt like i'm 10 years old and um and he's like well what you probably got to do is like clamp a board to the side of the stock tank give the bit something to grab something to deal with and then you drill into that look at walt i'm telling you that guy's and he says this thing very casually he's like like he's done this a million times you know he's been you know whatever cutting into sheet metal on stock tanks for his whole life he goes another thing is you don't want to like don't jam like don't use a bunch of force you almost want to kind of let the the saw blade almost kind of just wear down the metal okay for i don't know i was like okay whatever dude and then when i started doing this that was exactly right because if i would push it down too hard it would just kind of lock up uh-huh it kind of for some reason it wouldn't cut properly it would be i'd have to almost be feathering it and kind of just letting it barely touch the metal i don't know how to do with the metal heating up but the even down to just like don't press on it too hard he was right yeah so so i'm trying to i got this wood clamped

on there i got my headphones and i'm listening to robbie hoffman being interviewed on the new

york times interview show now i'm surprised that you're listening to headphones during like i listen to headphones during you know all kinds of like tedious tasks once you get into it you know mowing the lawn like that's fine but like a project like this you have one little task that you're doing that is kind of like you got to get it right you know what i mean you can't if you mess it up your your whole thing is sort of messed up i'm surprised that you're not like ear earbuds out like full focused attention on this task you know sometimes i do that for some

reason i also i just put my headphones in and i'm wandering around the yard i'm going down the basement to get stuff i end up at the stock tank but it was kind of like i was just that was just what was going on of course i did stop listening because bob came over and i was like please do not look at me in my shame as i try to like fix this thing that i've already screwed up and talked about this plenty of times on the show but it's like i mean we've done so much remodeling here at my house but that's always been under the watchful eye of walt burbank and also it's been walt burbank doing it like there's very few things that i just like tackle as a project by myself and it goes okay and a thing that was kind of frustrating me about this was well i'll i'll get to that part of the story in a moment but it's like i just feel embarrassed about my um i don't know construction skills remodeling skills modification skills i just seem to always do everything a little bit wrong like this i somehow cut the hole too small and now it's really hard to figure out how to expand the hole like nothing ever just kind of goes and what it was also was i've watched a bunch of videos of people doing this to their stock tank pools and they are generally like 22 year old women who are very conventionally cute who are like have like painted their stock tank like some kind of pink and you know blue stripes and it's all cute and they're like hey i put and i put a filter in and it's all and it like provides them with absolutely there are no challenges to it they just like drill into the thing and then they hook it up and then it's working and it's this cute little scene in their backyard and i'm like i'm 50 years old why is it that i why is it that i can't just do something as as effectively as the 22 year old gal on youtube who's just like this took her like an hour of her life and now everything's working

Great. Real question. And I don't know if this is like obvious or whatever, but like my assumption is, especially for these like influencer videos, this isn't their first. Are they you get the impression that they're filming it their very first time trying it? Are they trying to like kind of make it seem like this is the first time I've tried this and it's coming out perfectly or they know what they're doing like anybody who makes. like a how-to video uh well i unless they have like a bunch of stock tanks lined up like these aren't stock tank influencers if that makes any sense it's just somebody at their house who's like hey i set this up and i'm going to show you how i did it so i do think that i think in this case uh the couple of them that i watched my sense was these people were just doing it for the first time um and they just had measured properly what they needed to do instead of being at home depot not having the information trying to get it off of amazon you know getting the information wrong bob is now walking over i'm wrestling with this like hole saw and this wood and i'm trying to like cut through it and it's kind of not going great it's it's like the the drill is heating up the drill is like a 250 drill the stock tank was 200 it's like if i ruin a 250 drill yeah you can burn the the motor out on those things yeah so i'm just like and then bob's coming over like i'm like please sir do not please do not observe me in this time of shame so then i'm explaining to him i'm like yeah i cut the holes too small the first time and then it's really hard to recut them because there's nothing for the drill bit to grab he's like oh yeah yeah it'll happen um and uh you know so he's just kind of watching me for a while and i'm kind of working away on it and eventually i actually managed to expand the hole to the size it needs to be but because uh i just managed to always do things slightly wrong what this now means initially when i had cut when i had cut the holes i had specifically put them at a certain level of the stock tank because i wanted to make sure that they did not ever find themselves those holes below the water line i did not want to make them too high up on the walls of the tank whereas if there was evaporation uh in the summertime and the pump is running and then there's no water because the you know so i wanted them to be low enough that they would never be they would the water line would never drop beneath where they are and that was all fine and and good when it was an inch and a half hole but now because i've made them a three inch hole it has moved one of the holes into this weird this is very hard to explain but when they make these stock tanks or they roll these things out this metal and there these different kind of like contours to it and like a a kind of a i don't know what you would

call it but like basically almost like a pleat sort of something yes exactly exactly there's

basically like a pleat that now i'm the hole is going into the pleat which means when i'm trying to cinch down the fitting for the whole thing it's not just going against a flat surface yeah It's now going against a surface where the lower part of the circle of this, of this vent thing that I'm screwing in is now hanging out in space. It's now hanging out over a divot. Yeah, it's not flush. Yeah. And it's just like, and I'm just like, why, why does everything, why does everything have to be so hard? Why do I have to make everything, why do I have to do everything wrong? So I'm talking to Bob about it.

This is still, I mean, and again, I should just save this for the end, but like, I can hear your anguish here. But like, this is all so universal. The feeling of frustration that you're feeling is real, but also I hope that at least, you know, and it sounds like we're going somewhere with this, but, like, also everything you're describing is way more reality-based than the influencers who make it seem super easy. You know what I mean? Totally, yes. Like, 99% of people who do a project like this are learning how to do it on the fly as well and hit that moment where they're like, ah, shit, I effed this up. You know what I mean? And, like, anyway, but continue.

I think you're right. think it would be good for me to remember that i also think i just am very what's the opposite of resilient i am really non-resilient around stuff like this i was telling you there was something else the other day that was such a small thing but it was oh it was the lawnmower it was you know it was that lawnmower that my friends spring and scott gave me um that you know after the first time i used it didn't want to start up and i just was gonna well i guess i gotta go to home depot and get a new one and then involved me just getting some starting fluid from my neighbor bob and starting it up and it was like even something as small as that it's just like i'm just so easily um sort of like dispirited by any kind of a hiccup in a project and even when my dad's working on stuff what i'm not really clocking is that he's always hitting bumps in the road there's always a thing that is like oh this doesn't work the way we thought it was going to work or i got to do this different like that just comes with the territory but when it happens to me i think it just ties into some sort of deep like insecurity around this stuff and feeling of kind of inadequacy and so uh yes this is happening to people all the time i'm just especially bad at rolling with it so so i'm just like i can't believe that after all this uh i've now ruined this in some way i've made this so that it's not like it's not there's gonna be water dripping out of it but bob was like you know if you get a little like inner tube or some kind of rubber you could probably put it under that part of the clamp, and you could kind of tighten it down.

I'm like, okay. I was thinking putty or something. I was thinking like some sort of water. Yeah, like something like that.

Well, I'll tell you, I did that too. I really went to town with the silicone. But yeah, so I went to my basement. I'm looking around. I find a swim cap that I wore. Actually, I don't even think I wore it. I think it was a souvenir swim cap from the South Beach Rowing Club, which was when I did that cold water swim in San Francisco. I got a swim cap from them. So I'm like, oh, this is like an inner tube. So I sort of carefully, I cut up a little section of this rubber, you know, whatever you want to call it, kind of swim cap thing, and I kind of make it into this little square, and I get a bunch of silicone, and I basically kind of silicone it into this one area, and then I tighten this thing down, and I do all the silicone around it, too. i mean i go really nuts with that so that's very very hopefully watertight uh i go to the other one there's it has its own little problems different than the other one but i figure it out like i've got to really tighten this nut down so that i can put this other kind of piece on it that doesn't want to go on and again i hit this point where i'm like well this is never going to work and then i just kind of like problem solved it worked on a little bit more kind of got it to work i hook up the um the tubes and then this is another thing i really wanted to fill the stock tank to see if these things were going to hold but i went online and they said you need to let silicone dry for 24 hours sure yeah yeah that's the waiting is the hardest part it was because i just wanted to know how screwed this thing was but i was like don't burbs do not do that just let it just just go do something else leave it alone for 24 hours uh to let give it the best chance of success and so yesterday it had been 24 hours went out there started the water running in the morning it takes a long time to fill up this big tank and by afternoon the water line had moved above where the vents were and it was the moment of truth and i went around to the back of the stock tank where the hose is coming out and there was nary a leak nice and then even more satisfying i plugged in the pump and i turned it on and it shot to life and immediately started circulating the water i think it's like a little more pump than you need for this stock tank which is kind of what i wanted um it just starts circulating it comes with this kind of like aerate aerating nozzle so it's just like it's kind of a nice water feature kind of this nice bubbling sound it's putting these air bubbles into the water it's doing exactly what it's supposed to do It's circulating the water. It's coming, you know, it's being pulled out. And it was, the water was sparkling blue. And as the Mariners were absolutely crapping the bed in extra innings by pitching to a guy they had no business pitching to, I just walked outside and just stared at my crystal blue, beautiful stock tank pool, which is going to be now clean all summer. And I can lounge in it and I can sit in it. and when i tell you the satisfaction i had you know my old house in bellingham of course i was always talking about how it had a swimming pool that was one of the main appeals of that house

to me and that was a pretty nice in ground like big 1950s swimming pool and i loved that thing it was my very favorite thing about living there pretty much and i would float in it in the summer almost every day i liked looking at it it was a very grand feature of the home i would put this stock tank i would put the satisfaction that i had watching this water circulate in the stock tank pretty close to my excitement about having that swimming pool in bellingham like it was irrational exuberance my the the feeling that uh when when all of this crap that i was setting up and breaking and almost making it non-functional but then somehow figuring out how to make it work when it all worked and i just saw that water circulating i tell you what i felt so good that's

great yeah and because and also you didn't build that pool in bellingham it was beautiful but you know i mean like i don't know if you had that sense of accomplishment around it at all no i

mean i just like i guess also what it is is a lesson for me and i don't always need so much because like sitting in this little converted livestock water tank sitting in it on a hot summer day is very satisfying like it it feels really good and it's it it's not quite as nice is having a swimming pool with a diving board and all that stuff but it's it's like it's like 80 of the enjoyment and it's so much less of the hassle and expense and all those things like maybe that's a lesson for me too that sometimes i think i i need a swimming pool and maybe i just

need a stock tank like that might be enough that could be like that could be like a that's my motivational book yeah or kind of a guiding principle of your life going forward now i hesitate to ask this because i could really mess up the show by uh-oh uh by sending you on a different story or a story you no longer want to talk about but i'm just curious i've actually been curious since yesterday's show remember how

We had a conversation. I'm telling way too much here. But anyway, remember how we had a conversation like at the one hour mark of yesterday's show about whether or not you should hit the top story sounder? I was like, absolutely you should hit it. We haven't gotten the top stories because I thought the thing you had written on the show sheet as like sort of top of show chat was the World Cup. But that was actually supposed to be a top story. You had something else on your mind at the beginning of yesterday's show. And I will read directly from the show notes if that is not a violation of your privacy here. It said, Luke is getting ready for a violation. It's a hippo violation because it involves hippos. It says Luke is getting ready for a delivery that has him fighting some feelings. And I'm curious, was it to this filter that you were waiting on? Or is this a totally different thing and you no longer want to talk about it?

I've been going back and forth on if I want to talk about it.

Oh, I really did it. I really did it. I put you on the spot. You want me to cut this out? No, no. Two minutes of beeping tone?

Generally speaking, it's just three minutes of Buster Blu thing.

And then at the end, you just say, let's hope it doesn't come to that.

I've been going back and forth about talking about this for a couple of reasons. But usually when we kind of don't want to talk about something, that's usually the indication that there's something kind of compelling there.

Yeah, because I do want to take you off the spot. Like, if you want to, we can totally, okay. You don't have to talk about anything you don't want to.

I think it's kind of interesting. But let me do this. So just for, you know, for, for the, for the sonic idea of the show. Hello and welcome to top story. So the, there's two things here that I was, I wasn't sure if I want to talk about. And, and one of them, the first thing is it just kind of feels almost like it's, it's related to, it's like one neighborhood over from what I was just talking about with the pool, about how I'm kind of insecure about my ability to sort of do, you know, home projects and things like that um and i i so i'm wondering if if this is just more of luke kind of bemoaning his uh you know emotional and mental state but i have a friend coming over um later today a friend of mine and um he is really a super sweet guy and uh he and his wife have become really good friends um becca of becca and i but um they live in an unbelievably beautiful home in the irvington neighborhood of portland which is a kind of like queen anne or you know maybe madison park like a really lovely historic neighborhood with old historic homes and they just have a beautiful home that they've uh you know after they bought it they remodeled it they live in the kind of house that becca and i have taken an uber to their house for a party before and the uber driver has said my goodness what a home um he's somebody who's been very very successful in business in his life and they were supposed to come over we went out on their boat uh in the summertime in the columbia on the mighty columbia in fact we parked on this little beach that i'm actually looking at right now from the madrona hill studio had a lovely afternoon and we were supposed to come back to the house and have some dinner and it just the day got away from us it was kind of late and we ended up skipping it and i'll tell you honestly i was very relieved because i am very i'm fighting my own insecurity about the fact that this guy has a tremendous amount of of of sort of um capital if you will but also you know they both they drive incredibly normal cars they are careful with what they spend money on they've donated to livewire when it was um you know really kind of financially in a pinch like these these people are so incredibly um understated about things and are not opulent at all or they don't flaunt things but i'm really struggling with the fact that like i know becca's been saying oh luke's been fixing this house up and it's been this big conversation and i'm like really battling this feeling of of not wanting to of feeling kind of like wanting to downplay the house or or wanting to like i don't know i'm just worried he's going to come over and be like in his mind oh this is what becca's been talking about for the last two years and i'm also mad that i would even have that feeling because who cares first of all most people don't think that way and second of all um why would why would i be so insecure about something like this so that's certainly your

place is beautiful like imagine bringing him to my place no that's not true your place is awesome no i mean i love my place too but like you know i i'm broadcasting from a musty basement you know

like the reason here's the only reason that i'm having these feelings about this is because all that all that this guy and his wife have been hearing for like the last two years is luke has been working on remodeling this you know dream home or something and i think that kind of gives slightly the wrong impression it is a really nice house now it's lovely i really love being here but it's like i just get insecure about somebody particularly somebody who has themselves an incredible home uh kind of i don't know what he's expecting but whatever it is i'm i'm i'm I'm... I'm nervous about him having an expectation that will not be met. And then I'm mad at myself that I care about that kind of stuff.

And there's no chance that they would be hearing this conversation, or is this another level of it?

Well, that's part of why I was considering not talking about it.

That's why we can still edit it all out. We can roll back. God, this is going to be a long bleep. We can roll. Oh, my God.

I'm so sorry, everyone. Although you can't even hear me apologizing because this is also bleep.

Luke, we have to do well on the TV telephone because I'm running out of bleep money. Do you have any idea how expensive this is?

The swear jar. All of our income is going into the swear jar right now. You know, I would say that here's the thing. I would say this to these folks face because this is about me. This is about my own weird insecurity. And by the way, there's lots of people that I would bring out to this place and I would be so proud of this place. You know, it's not that I don't love this house. I really do. It's that There's a handful of people that I know That have just been much more successful Financially in life than I have And in those moments It's very challenging for me To not feel insecure about that Which again is a really weird thing coming for me Because I've had a lucky life And I get to do a lot of fun stuff And that just shouldn't be a factor in my mind And the fact that it is I really don't like that for myself and the fact that I've been thinking for weeks about when he's going to come by and, like, how's it going to look. I've just been obsessing over it in a way that is, again, really, really makes me feel kind of embarrassed. Now, here's the other part of the story, Andrew, that I didn't. The second reason I didn't want to get into this, maybe this is even more important, or this is even more something that the listeners will just absolutely... Ready, everybody? Get your phone. Make sure your otter case is on it and get ready to throw it. What my friend is bringing up to my house Today Andrew is a boat That he's giving me

Oh this will be So wait a second I forgot I saw a photo of your house recently Or you sent me something and I saw a boat in the background I was like oh Luke already has a boat I forgot that you still have a boat So now you're going to be a double boat owner It's good for the brand

I'm back to being a double boat owner As of this afternoon And I know the listeners are like dude what are you doing half of this show is me telling stories about my disastrous sea voyages um you know what they say

though and this is a very true idiom the happiest days of a boat owner's life is the day he buys a boat and the day his friend gives him a boat that's what they say they also say that the boats

it's emotionally healthier for the boats to have two of them and it's and it's better for them both to be on land at all times you don't want to be the only boat in a family it's kind of actually not great for their mental stuff the boat that i have is a um it's an old the one that's up on a trailer like a you know in my kind of driveway area is an old 1950s wood boat from bellingham called a norseman it's called it's a runabout and it's i love it so much it's a great boat it's it's wood though and over the years it's just kind of decayed to a point where it's not really savable the motor is yeah oh i didn't know that somebody could save it but just not me it's Like, I would have to, like, take it somewhere, and they'd have to pretty much just rebuild most of it.

Oh, so what has been—let's just leave the new boat. Don't you have a biblical saying about putting old boats in new casks or something?

Yes. Don't put old boats on new trailers.

Jesus said, can I put a little marker here as a possible showdown? Because right now I just have running out of bleep money as a show title. Listen, I do have a question about it. So I didn't realize that was the state of this boat. And you said the style of this boat, but it's a criss-craft as well, right? No. Oh, it's not.

The one that I crashed and the one that we went out on and went to the Savage Moose, and that's a criss-craft.

Oh, I thought they both were, and this was just different styles. Oh, okay. No, this one is called a Norseman. This was the Norseman.

It was made by a small company in Bellingham back in the day.

Okay, so this thing, what has been your thoughts on the boat that's on the trailer before this new boat even came into the picture? I didn't realize that it was pretty much beyond use. I thought you were just waiting for the right time to maybe put it in the water again. Have you been thinking, well, I guess I got to kind of face the music and eventually dismantle it? Or are you hoping someday maybe the right person will take it and get it in working condition? Or have you not gotten that far?

I think my plan was to try to sell the motor and the trailer because those things are both in really good shape. And they're worth a little something. Maybe just sell the whole thing to someone and say, you're really buying this for the motor and for the trailer. you can do whatever you want with the boat yeah um which again kind of bums me out because i really love the boat but it's just it's just really really hard to take unless you have like a a covered like kind of airtight place to keep the boat all winter when it's not out on the water it's just the the elements really get to it i've learned and so that's just been sitting i've just been dragging my feet on what to do with it and then

my friend uh over the winter said uh hey you know what um i'm getting a new boat and would you like my old boat in fact the boat that we went out on the colombian and beached on the little island in front of my house and i you know it was kind of an offer i couldn't refuse um because you know it's a it's a ski boat and it's in good shape and you know i'm sure he could sell it to someone for some amount of money or donate it to boats for kids or something but um he he you know said you probably get some use out of this and it worked really well when we took it out on the columbia and i kind of couldn't i also have weirdly like this house the guy before me must have had like rvs or something because there's like an ample amount of parking area like i could i could have like a you know a smallish wedding out here and there'd be parking for like 30 people so i sort of have the room uh if i you know to store it until you know i'm ready to put it in the water or whatever so i kind of couldn't turn it down but low-key part of the whole thing has been I've been slightly embarrassed about him coming out to see my house. But anyway, today is the day. We're going to meet up at the marina.

So that's the delivery. The delivery is the boat. The delivery is the boat.

It starts with we're going to meet at the marina down in town. We're going to take the boat back out. He's going to show me any little kind of quirks about it. I think starting it, there's a little bit of a trick to that. He's just going to kind of give me the rundown on how to do everything. And then we're going to pull it back out of the water because the marina is booked. You cannot rent a space To kind of leave your boat This time of the summer So the boat's going to go back up on the trailer It's going to get towed up here We're going to put it next to the existing boat And then we'll see what happens I'm going to try to get it back down into the water A couple of times this summer in August

You just drive it down to the marina You park your car and trailer somewhere Truck and trailer somewhere And then you take it out Then you put it back on the trailer at the end of the day But then as long term plan Maybe in the off season you'll be able to book yourself a slip in this marina yeah i'm gonna wait till i'm gonna wait

till it's a little bit less busy and see if i can um what i would like to do in the summertime is rent a slip um or they don't really do and when i lived in port townsend what i did with my other boat well this one the one that's on the trailer is you could do something called linear dock space and that just means you don't really have a dedicated spot but you can just tie your boat up wherever there's room and and and so you don't take your boat out of the water they don't do that at this marina so i'm not sure exactly what i'm going to do but the dream scenario would be figure out a way to have the boat in the water for the summer time go down there use it and then take it out in the winter it's also this is fiberglass it's a ski boat it's not wood it's not nearly as precious uh and it's not falling apart all the time although even those kinds of boats do take a lot of maintenance still all boats take maintenance but um i was like i said i was hesitant to talk about it because i can only imagine listeners going is this guy getting back into the boat game what the hell and then also again my my insecurity about my insecurity like i hate that i care about something like that i really wish i could turn that part of my brain

off but i can't and i'm mad about it this is not a wrap-up question but i'm curious just how far away is the marina i'm just sort of trying to get a sense of like once your boat is there will it be just like a five ten minute drive down to the marina oh that's great it's super close i mean

that's the thing that's part of why i kind of couldn't turn it down because if i get a slip at the marina and it's the summertime and it's five minutes from here and you know me and whoever's visiting or whatever go want to jump in the boat and kind of just do a little lap on the river i mean it's sort of ideal like it's really really it's it really would be kind of a cool scene um there's you know a few things that have to happen before i also don't have a hitch like i don't think my car have a mazda i don't think it i don't maybe i could get some kind of aftermarket package put on where it would have a tow hitch but i don't even know what its towing capacity is so that's the other thing i may have to like either buy another truck or either just rent a truck when i want to take it down to the marina you know so there are some there are some unknowns yeah well

you know who's taking notes right now is it um mike o'brien who is your insurance person who She listens to the show. I think they're learning right now that you are getting a boat, right? Time to update that policy or what?

You know what? I hadn't even thought about that. Thanks.

That's a lot, Andrew. Bleep that out. You know, this is a hard left here, but you were talking about maybe potentially having to get a hitch on your car. You don't know what the tow capacity is. It's Kevin O'Brien. Kevin, oh, I'm sorry. I apologize. Kevin, you didn't hear any of that.

I have no boats. There's zero boats up here. did i tell you did i tell you that sorry really quick and then we can get on to what you were saying that um i was something was going on with my insurance and that i was getting i was getting an insurance quote for something it wasn't from um kevin by the way

uh it was for something else and they said well you do have um you have a crash on your record and I was like a crash on my record and they were giving me the the um the the kind of rough um sort of dates or the the rough time span I was like I was not involved in any crash I was so confused

it was the boat crash it was just a vehicle crash you didn't realize it was because because I claim

you know I mean I did crash the boat and it was totaled and I did make an insurance claim but I didn't realize that that's sort of a moving violation like like i was it was some auto insurance thing and it was like oh yeah i did crash a boat yeah you know what that is that's

that's true i crashed a boat i just felt like you suddenly suddenly you felt proud you're like oh well that was the boat oh yeah i crashed a helicopter that should only yeah uh you know

what if you crash a helicopter that should affect your airborne insurance rates if you crash a boat that should affect your waterborne insurance rates if you crash your car that's your land borne insurance rates i should not be held accountable for my land borne insurance because

of my waterborne activities as far as i'm concerned all right what i was going to say is stupid and hacking doesn't really go anywhere but it is something i hear in commercials all the time now when i'm listening to the radio and i don't know if it's for all car commercials or a specific car commercial but they say um negotiable dock fee may be applied and i just every time i hear that I'm just like, all right, I'm going to negotiate out of that. Like, that's the first thing I say when I walk into the dealership. If I ever just like you just said it's negotiable. Yeah. Like, how about we start by taking that line item right out of there?

Yeah, 100%. I am I'm negotiating. Yeah. Why did you tell me it was negotiable? Why would you say that?

Hey, a flimsily mandated doc feed. That reminds me, by the way, and I know, like, I really, complaining about whatever, financial realities or that's how they get you is just like such an old man and so tedious thing to do. But here we go. Remember I took our car in to get it fixed and we took it to the dealership. This was, what, two weeks ago or something? And, like, the car was the fuel injector on one of the pistons, and it was a really expensive fix. And the dealership quoted us a lot of money to get it fixed, and they said you have to replace all four of these things or whatever. And so we ended up finding another garage nearby to take it to, which I absolutely love, by the way. Shoot, I'll try to shout them out later. This cool, like, literally less than half a mile away, like three blocks away from the dealership is this garage that is just so cool. I talked to the people at the front desk for, like, probably a half hour dropping it off and taking it, just, like, BSing with them and stuff. Just really, really cool people.

Is it one of those, like, Ballard places that specializes in, like, European cars or whatever?

I do think it might focus on European slash German cars because we have a V-dub. So I will try. I'm not going to try to look up who it was right now, but I will try to give them a shout out because I really did appreciate the service. And anyway, but the dealership thing kind of, you know, they quoted us what they quoted us and we left. But we had to sign a paper up front saying no matter what, we're going to have to pay a certain amount of money just for the – what's the word I'm looking for? I want to say analysis of the car. But, you know, they look at the car. They figure out what's wrong with it. Like the estimate – well, but no matter what, whether we had them do the repair or not, we were going to have to pay, I think, $225 for the – Diagnostics. Diagnostics. That's the word I'm looking for. Thank you. Just to figure out, like, well, what's going on with this car, right? And so we sign that, and then we get the estimate. They say, okay, this is what the problem is. This is what the estimate is. And we decide, okay, we're not going to go with you. And then so I go to pay that to go to pick up our car, and then I got to pay the diagnostic fee, which is fair. They did work to figure it out, right? But it was quoted as $225, and then I signed the paper, and it's like $275 or something like that, or maybe more, maybe closer to $300. And I'm like, okay. And so I just glanced down at it. And some of it is tax. And that's you know, that is what it is. I'm not complaining about tax here. What I'm complaining about is just an extra $25 fee that is never explained. So they tell us it's going to be a 225 diagnostic charge or whatever. And of course, you'll pay taxes on that. But then when you go to pay it, it's just like another line item that says $25 fee. And it doesn't say what the fee is for. And this is life in these United States these days. It's kind of I'm sure the thing I signed said something like fees may apply. Right. Or whatever. Like, I'm sure that legally they're totally fine on that. Non-negotiable. Yeah, exactly. But like, what was this fee? And I feel like you're just seeing more and more industries just doing this. And like, I think of a fee is like, you know, and I know that this is a bad example because it was so abused. It's like the use case of abusing fees. But you look at like ticket. or something like that but a lot of the fees were this idea of well like we're we're the people you're dealing with from the consumer side but we have to work with both the artists and the venues and everybody's kind of got their own fees like there might be fees involved in in transactions or even like a debit card fee like oh i got a i got an atm fee or i'm using my credit card at a soup restaurant and they're going to add a fee because because the bank is charging them a fee and it's kind of like okay i understand that that is a fee that is something that's like that's something extra that is being tacked on but i just took it to the dealership there was no third party involved they just said it's going to cost you 225 but then when i go to pay it's actually 250 because there's a 25 fee without any breakdown of and it's kind of like that's just 250 no because i was already outside so i took the paperwork i signed it i didn't really

think much about it and then i'm standing outside and the only reason i even looked at it was because I was waiting for about two minutes for the person to drive my car around so I could take it away you know I wouldn't have been rifling through the papers anyway but I'm just standing out there I'm holding the paperwork I'm like oh that's more expensive than I thought and again I'm not outraged by this I'm not writing to the company they've hit me up several times about like take our poll how was your service and I'm kind of like you know take our survey you know and I'm like I don't feel like getting involved with it is $25 it's again it's just part of living in the united states these days but like it is bullshit right like and i'm sorry again lucy about the language but like it is like just say it's 250 like i was gonna pay it anyway don't call it 225 and then just add a 25 fee what is the fee well let me ask you this doesn't the diagnostic then

get folded into the overall cost anyway i i always thought it was like well it would if we had them

do it but oh that was the deal that was the dealership yeah yeah yeah not the place where you actually no no i really liked the place they they were really cool they seemed like really straight shooters and again it was 25 bucks and if they just said hey it's a 25 250 diagnosis fee or whatever we would have paid it we wouldn't have blanched at it or we would have blanched and paid it anyway like everything costs money but i don't know i just think there's just a lot of just like lying and going on like i mean there's no it's not like it wasn't because you held it overnight or anything like that it would have said doc fee you know i mean is it too late

now to call them over 25 dollars when i was when i went back to um uh home depot because what i left out about the story of the stock tank was not only did i cut the hole too small the first time i was trying to cut it the second time with also not a large enough blade it was larger but not quite big enough and it was having all these problems i hadn't yet gotten to the solution of the um you know putting the piece of wood up to kind of brace it or whatever yeah so now i have these two and they're like i don't know 25 bucks a piece these two round you know hole saw thingies that are kind of jacked up now from being used and really it was my own dang fault but i just thought i don't know i'll just bring them back to the home depot and just say like these were too small and they didn't work for me and i'll tell you that that lady refunded the money so quickly really like zero questions asked i was like i'm really glad i brought these back in but you didn't

You didn't take back the one that worked. You used all three of them, but you just kept the one that was the right size.

The third one, I'm just keeping. Yeah, no. No, I'm not taking. The one that was, ultimately, the one that worked, I'm not taking that back. You know, I was amazed that they, I would have taken store credit. I would have taken if they would have just given me maybe the leg bone from one of those giant skeletons that they're already starting to put out. Yeah. You know, like, I was shocked. but you know the when it comes to these slunk fees and things like that i really need to be on the lookout because i am the kind of person that is i'm not detail-oriented and i i just i'm not the kind of person who reads the bill at the restaurant you know when i get that when i get the check i just kind of figure well that's what it costs and in fact oh you know what when we were in chicago becca and i were in chicago after the last wait wait for bill curtis and we went to get breakfast on like saturday or yeah saturday before we left and um we we got breakfast and it was a nice place in chicago kind of right there along by um millennium park and uh and we were eating breakfast and it's yummy and stuff and then time to get the check and the check comes in it's a hundred dollars and i'm like my first thought was just like wow breakfast is expensive these days

yeah and if you get that at a dinner you know whatever like there's there might be a beer or

cocktail involved this is breakfast thank god yes because it was breakfast no alcohol was consumed and so that had me going a hundred dollars just seems like a lot but i when they handed to me i literally was just going to sign it because i was just like they they signed they sent me the bill and then i was like i said to becca go that's a hundred dollars for that breakfast what and And then we looked down and it was like, I had gotten like eggs and potatoes.

and she had gotten, you know, I don't know, French toast or something, and I had a Diet Coke, and she had a coffee. It was like, there's no way that's $100. And I asked the person to come over, and she was like, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry that we mixed up your bill.

Oh, interesting.

She had charged us for someone else, but it was my card and my name, but they had charged me for someone else's thing. And thank God it was $100. She goes, you know what, if it had been $70? Yeah, you wouldn't have thought. There's some kind of range where I would have just been like, damn, things are expensive these days. luckily it was so so outrageous that i actually thought to ask but like i'm probably getting slunk feed left and right and not even realizing it because i'm not paying enough attention to the

fine print here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a female no man

it's not from a female uh we didn't get to the top stories because i was too busy delving into my insecurities but maybe we'll uh get to those stories tomorrow in the meantime do we have any emails or v-mails of note today yeah i got a couple here i was going through the voicemail line

got a good one regarding goldfish that i'll save that one i got another one here from our friend maggie from the middle shelf and maggie maggie is a frequent caller of the tbtl voicemail line and um i never know exactly where she's going to be going with her voicemails and i'll be honest with you this one at one point as i was listening to it i think i had to leave the room for a second i came back and i know she's singing at one point during this so let's just go on a journey with maggie here regarding the tv show moonlighting which we were talking about the other day and whether or not we uh feel like it would hold up in this day and age

hello business boys doing the business this is maggie from the middle self um when you guys are talking about moonlighting oh oh my god that show i loved that show and i did try to watch it as an adult recently and oh boy does it not hold up dear lord it had no nothing i really liked their chemistry and i loved civil shepherd and her silky blouses and her wiggly jiggly body and I loved their chemistry back in the day, but the show does not hold up. Oh, and Al Jarreau, Al Jarreau. Okay, you guys were trying to figure out where the moonlighting comes in. It comes in the end. You know, it's like, sun fly by night. You know, he's doing all that stuff. It goes on forever. But at the very end of the song, he says, Moonlighting strangers Who just met on the way Who just met on the way And that's it, Moonlighting That's the only time he even says Moonlighting Also, coincidentally I just watched Moonstruck for the first time in my life And I really liked that movie But anyway, yeah, yeah, Moonlighting's stupid as shit, honestly But, yeah, I love it in the 80s Okay, well, power out

There you go

Boy, what a journey

You go on journeys with Maggie sometimes, exactly

Moonstruck is, by all accounts, a fabulous film, right? Oh, it's one of my favorites, yeah Nicolas Cage, Cher Yeah, absolutely good Danny Aiello

To me, it's almost a flawless movie, except for one major flaw in it, which is there's some montage. I am not a fan of montage scenes. Who's Kamerikev's favorite director? He did Scarface. Brian De Palma. Brian De Palma. I feel like Brian De Palma movies always have some sort of lacy interlude of a montage or something. And there's something that is sort of akin to that in Moonlighting, which is, for the record, Moonstruck. I'll always get it wrong. It would be amazing if Brian De Palma directed Moonstruck. But there's, like, some scene where Cher is going to go out on a date with Nick Cage. And she's kind of like, she has this, like, pampering herself montage or, like, getting ready for the date and, you know, maybe trying on clothes or maybe even shopping. I'm not sure. and it just seems like such I don't know why I'm focusing on this because it's literally like three minutes or less out of a movie that is otherwise in my opinion infallible but like it just bums me out because I love that movie so much and then you're just like oh god here comes the montage but maybe that's part of movies from that era you just got to take the good with the bad and boy do I recommend Moonstruck. You know I don't think I've ever seen it I mean I don't want to over I don't want to overplay it but I think it's a really nice movie

Yeah, I mean, I was a little young.

young when it came out but I remember uh well 87 I guess I would have been 9 um no that's not how that works I would have been 11 but uh I remember a lot of people really liking the movie and it was sort of big in the pop culture I feel like you know you'd see clips of it or I don't know just it was a movie that was on my radar even though I had not seen it and then you know I grew up and never thought to go back to it but I bet you I would really like it I like movies from that era I'm a big one, Harry Met Sally. I know this isn't a rom-com, per se.

No, it kind of is. It is. I would put it probably as a rom-com.

I really like movies from this period of time in American cinema.

Yeah, and it's nicely shot. I know I've said this to you before, but it kind of scratches some of that New York itch that maybe a Woody Allen film would have, only it doesn't have the toxicity of it being a Woody Allen film. And it's not like it's that kind of humor or anything, But it's just kind of old brownstones and New York City and beautiful old money sort of. It's just – and Olympia Dukakis is in it. I don't know if that was one of the people that you listed as well. And she's just really incredible. Like it really is like it's heartwarming without being saccharine. I think that's the thing. And that's what I think I like out of a movie like that. Like it does give you feels, but it doesn't feel manipulative. And it seems like it's pretty well grounded.

It was directed by Norman Jewison, who directed Fiddler on the Roof, one of my very faves. True. Have you ever seen Fiddler on the Roof?

No, no, no.

I don't know if that's something that at age 49, if you watched it, if it would be particularly meaningful to you, but I grew up watching that movie. I mean, it's a musical, but I just love it so much. There's a bunch of The Sound of Music, The Music Man, Fiddler on the Roof. There might be another one, too, I'm forgetting. that are like these musicals that i just absolutely love but only because i was subjected to them as a young kid like if i watched it now for the first time i'd be like why do they keep starts why are they singing yeah i'm not into musicals i don't like when people and i have generally no patience for new musicals i don't really not into broadway musicals but i if you get me young enough i guess if you get me at age seven or something uh you know like and becca also grew up watching these same movie so we will just sometimes we'll be driving on the road just singing no deep cuts from fiddler on the roof just like a deep cut oh well okay well okay if i were a rich man is that's the like that's the above the you know that's the number one on the call sheet if i were a rich man all day long i'd bitty bitty bum if i were a wealthy man okay but then you get down to like sunrise sunset you get down to um do you love me which is a song tevye and his wife they're in bed he's asking like do you love me she doesn't want to admit that she loves him she says for 25 years i've washed your clothes major meals 25 years my bed is his if that's not love what is and she just basically is like they're going around and around of her not wanting to admit she loves him but saying i did all these things that show you that i love you and and yeah beck and i can do

that entire number together i also love the message of that by the way that love being in

action yeah you know it's a really and also i don't i'm not i haven't done the actual sort of historical side by side but it's an interesting kind of historical piece about the like russian pogroms and the treatment of jews in russia in this era um which i guess would have been maybe like the 1910s, 20s in Russia or whatever. So, yeah, I'm a big fan of that, but only because I was subjected to it when I had no other entertainment options. If you gave it to me now, I would be like, nah, this is boring.

Let's get out of here, if I can make that call. But I want to share something with you that I just got.

I've got to quickly tear down and rebuild my house so it's more impressive. Oh, that's right. I've got two hours to do it.

I just got a text message from somebody that you and I both know, and somebody who is a friend and somebody who we worked with at Cairo Radio. But because this was a private text to me, it's just nice, by the way, a private text to me, I'm not going to share their name. But you and I started this show talking a bit about our insecurities regarding the show and how we feel about it and sometimes having to go back and listen to calm ourselves down or what have you. This is a friend who just wrote, just texted me out of the blue, just now, moments ago. Hey, so I took about a 1,600-episode break from TBTL. And every other podcast for the past six years. But I just listened to yesterday's episode and I'm overjoyed. I'm so happy that the show is still the show and still funny and so great. And I just love that show opening chat can still last 58 minutes and that you still say, I don't have a Doug on this flight, which is a phrase I still use. Fantastic. Anyway, I got to. say that is just such a nice thing to hear from somebody to out of the blue just sort of check in on that especially I just thought it was a nice uh end cap for it to coincidentally come through at this very moment uh given how we kind of started the show talking about our jangly nerves regarding what we're putting out there every day right and you know what when this guy comes over

to give me a free boat and he looks around and thinks this is not the palace that I was imagining I'll say yeah but guess what People who sometimes haven't listened to TBTL for 1600 episodes are happy It's still happening

You can't take that away from me As if this person doesn't know you well enough As if this person hasn't heard you downplay it Every time probably Becca says something nice As if this person doesn't know you

I literally pulled Becca aside and I was like Can you please downplay Can you please stop Building something up to be Something that I'm worried it's not going to be You know So, yeah, this lives completely in my own head, and as I've already said multiple times, I know that, and yet I can't stop my own head from being this terrible place where it's living. And I don't like that either, you know? So what are you going to do? Let's try this. But I'll have a full update tomorrow.

Yeah, I'm excited to hear about, I mean, certainly an update as to how the boat gets delivered, and it sounds like you're going to be on the water for a little bit, testing it out, kicking the tires. And by the way, if the boat has tires, don't accept it. Don't accept it.

Or it means it's one of those kind of Omaha Beach amphibious tours. I could storm Rainier, Oregon with it. That's right. You may need to. All right. Thanks for listening, everybody. We are going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for all of you. So please do tune in for that, whether you've been listening on the daily or if it's been 1,600 episodes. Our door is always open, except when it's closed. Thanks for listening.

And if it's closed, you can open it.

Please remember, no mountain too tall. Good luck to all. My door's always open, except when it's closed. But you can open it when it's closed. Power out.