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Some slimy, jelly-like stuff with black specks inside. That's what Steve has found in the water this April morning. What are those little black specks? They're alive. They'll take them home to show Dad. Dad will probably know what they are. The boys have found some frog eggs. Some of them are hatching. Jimmy thinks of the tadpoles as his pets. He's picked out a large one and given it a name, Tad. One day, about a week after leaving the water, Tad has become an adult frog. Dad thinks the boys should take the frogs back to the pond, but Steve would like to keep Tad. Well, all right, the boys can keep Tad, but the rest will have to go. The boys will put them in the jar and take them back to the pond.

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Guess what day it is Guess what day it is

It's Friday, Friday Gonna get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend

Your Honours, at this time I'd like to present a compilation of general misjudgments Half of them fear-based, half of them just stupid

If we wanted to, we could have our own business No, I agree If we really wanted to, we could. It's just that, do we want to do that? Do we want to have a website and a blog and be like, this is what we did today? No, it's too much work. Yeah, and too expensive.

Yeah, I'm not feeling too hot. How many hot dogs do you have for lunch? Three. Well, there's your problem. You're starving. Your body's literally eating itself. Let me see if I have an emergency dogs on my desk.

I love these guys. They make funny with their mouths.

All right, hello, good morning, Welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Cleveland! This is for you! My name's Luke Burbank. I'm your host.

In short, things are going extremely well for him.

Coming to you, aw, for the final day from beautiful Valley City, Ohio, the Liverpool Township Community Center, where we are still dealing with a lot of smoke in the sky.

I'm going to smoke the world with the rock and roll. Good deal.

But luckily, we are well air-conditioned here in the classroom thanks to our friends here at the community center who've been taking great care of us. And we are in good shape to bring you this final day of TBTL-a-thon 17. Jumping for joy. Of course, we're here as part of the Valley City, Ohio Frog Jump Festival. Grab it. Grab it. The Daves are doing well. By the way, I can report all three Daves. We got eyes on them this morning.

Dave! Dave! Dave!

They are looking hale. They're looking hardy. They're moving around in their little terrarium. And I guess we'll figure out which one of them is going to actually take the big jump on Sunday. By the way, we are at episode 4,773 in a collector series.

Let the fun begin.

We are taking your phone calls today. Last chance to give us a call at 206-414-TBTL. 206-414-8285. Ahoy, ahoy. They have figured out the source of the explosive diarrhea outbreak in America. The combustion becomes an explosion. We will tell you about that. And that also gives us the inspiration for our question of the day for the callers. If you want to call in and answer this question. When was the last time you shit your pants? Been a while? 206-414-TVTL. 206-414-8285. I did not run the question of the day By the longest running co-bro of the program Maybe best known for his tall ships And his depictions of the tall ships And his dislike for that particular topic He's Andrew Walsh As Jay would say, he's got flow

And he's joining me right now, good morning my friend Luke and I had a very, good morning Luke Good afternoon, Luke and I had a very Mature conversation Before the show About TBTL It was a production meeting We were talking about how we really liked this idea of having more specific questions to ask you guys to call in with. Yesterday, we asked you to call in with stories about people named Dave in your life. Dave's in your life. That worked out really well. And I said, oh, yeah, well, what should today's question be? And you said, I already have one. I did. And I didn't follow up.

When was the last time you shit your pencil?

I didn't follow up and say, what is it? Because I was like, oh, it'll be fun to find out on the show. And I learned a valuable lesson. From now on, we ask the follow-up questions off air. You really want people to call in? Well, I mean, people have those stories.

I'm going to be honest with you. It's compelling. It is compelling. It's compelling. It's compelling. It's it's almost what this very show is built upon as we rolled out the TBTL greatest hits vinyl album last year. So, I mean, without being coarse, without being unnecessarily crass, I do think it is a story that is quite fascinating.

I suppose so. I wonder how many people have that story. I think for a lot of lucky people, it would be so far in the past that they wouldn't have a memory of it.

Yeah, and you know what? Let me sort of clarify. It doesn't even have to be a story of when you actually had a bathroom situation occur outside of the bathroom. It could just be a time when you had to go real bad and it was uncomfortable.

How do you feel that our hosts feel about us starting the show today with this on Friday, the last day of our thon? There's been a lot of goodwill. There was some ill will regarding some things I said about a local eatery.

You shall not!

But then we replaced that with Goodwill when we went to that local eatery yesterday.

By the way, that place, Gandalf's here in Valley City, Ohio, cannot recommend it highly enough.

It was so good. I had a Reuben that was really, really tasty. Actually, honestly, one of the better Reubens I've maybe ever had. As far as the ratio of meat to cheese to other toppings and stuff, it was perfect. And I didn't do any mods on it. Did you notice that?

I did. I was proud of you. You ordered like a big boy. Right off the menu. It was, in fact, not too early for me to get a fish sandwich. You got a fish sandwich. It looks good. Delicious fish sandwich. Our friend John Sklaroff is here, by the way, TBTL employee numero uno. Isn't he the best? And you got something called a boxy. A boxy, boxy, yeah. Irish, kind of traditional Irish dish.

It wasn't a sandwich, but yeah, it was a salmon filet on top of this potato pancake. In my culture, that's a latke, but they called it a boxy or a boxy. It was boxed tea, I believe, right? It was delicious.

It really was. The place was immaculate. The staff was great. They had pull tabs, which we enjoyed. We didn't enjoy any winning. I wouldn't say I did. Yeah, I mean, I enjoyed pulling them. I didn't get the experience of winning money. Do you think any of them are winners? Not the ones that I pulled. I still owe you $20 for that, by the way. I keep forgetting that you guys stop reminding me. Stop remembering that.

People, if you ever want to borrow money from someone, borrow from me, because I forget.

He is the guy, by the way, you have to borrow money from. Oh, goldfish.

But the food was great. The music was awesome. The music was great. We didn't even have to touch the jukebox because what they were playing organically was so fantastic.

There was Jeff Tweedy on there. There was a little Bob Dylan. There was some Grateful Dead. Whatever the algorithm was, Neil Young. It was wonderful. So just for the record, if you find yourself in Medina County, if you find yourself anywhere near Valley City, Ohio, head on over to Gandalf's. It's just a wonderful, wonderful place. and named for an absolutely wonderful, very good boy dog named Gandalf, who is, we learned, no longer with us, no longer with, and by us I mean people on this planet, but there were pictures of Gandalf up.

Yeah, watercolor of Gandalf.

I mean, the absolute goodest boy out there. So you have some regrets about your slander from earlier in the movie? Yeah, I feel bad about putting this audio drop together. You shall not!

I don't know. I think that's a fine tribute, honestly.

Yeah, it was delicious and lovely, and we appreciate them. I was wondering if there was any—we brought our friend Brian, who works here for the township and who's been taking care of us all week. And I was curious—I didn't want to ask, because I didn't want to—if they weren't aware of the folks who were there eating, that is to say us, because we were like the only people in the restaurant when we showed up. If they weren't aware that we were the guys from the podcast who may have said that their name was a little confusing— I don't think that really got back to them, did it? I don't know.

They were being very nice to us. Yeah, sure, but I think that's just how they are to everybody. This is the Midwest. People are nice here, Luke. Oh, okay. You coastal elite.

Deal with it. Yes. So 206-414-TB-TL, if you want to call in about. I've told this story many times on the show, but it's not a story of going to the bathroom. It's a story of having to go to the bathroom when I was doing Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.

This makes me uncomfortable just thinking about it.

It was rough, rough stuff. And luckily, I somehow managed to hold it in, but it was a touch-and-go situation. So maybe you've got a story like that. They've traced the cyclosporiasis to iceberg lettuce in Taco Bell ingredients.

Specific? So none of these cases have come from anything but dining at Taco Bell?

Well, there is a specific company. I believe they're called Taylor Farms. and they provide the lettuce for Taco Bell. And we were talking about this, I think, yesterday as we were driving home, which is it's a little on the nose.

for it to be Taco Bell, right?

I'm actually kind of bummed about that because it's kind of so hacky.

It would be, yeah, let's see. I'm looking this up. Taco Bell lettuce. It comes, I believe, from this, I think they may actually grow it in Mexico, but it's an American company. I believe it's, like I said, called Taylor Farms. I want to make sure I've got the name right lest I slander them. But yeah, lettuce at Taco Bell in five states confirmed as source of parasite. And they're warning consumers not to eat shredded iceberg lettuce from Taco Bell restaurants in Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, West Virginia, and wait for it, Ohio, where we are. We have not gone to any Taco Bells, though. No, the closest we would have gotten was when we did door dash some food on the later side of night on Monday, although I don't think Taco Bell was ever in the conversation.

No, I don't know where there is one.

Are you late night Taco Bell guys ever?

I think I explicitly said, oh, do we want Taco Bell? Oh, smart. For me, that is. But the appeal of the Wendy's nearby our place was calling to us.

Yeah, it's very convenient. In fact, you guys. It was suspicious, though, because when they showed up, they said we ordered two. Really, what I wanted was a Frosty. Yeah, that was your main driver. And we ordered two Frostys, and they said that the machine was broken, which peace and love to people working at Dave Thomas Arena late on a Monday night. That's a thankless job. I don't begrudge you not wanting to have to break down and clean and restart the whole frosty machine, but I'm not buying that the frosty machine is broken. You didn't want to deal with it?

Well, it was interesting that your order showed up. First of all, also just remember John was saying two nuggets. Oh, yeah, they under-nugged you. My spicy nugs. They under-nugged you. I was looking forward to those. They under-frostied me. But they included a spoon, but no frosties. And so that's why it's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a frosty. So do you guys think that the restaurants withheld or do we trust the drivers who, by the way, had to drive it literally two blocks?

It was the reason that we door dashed was because I don't know if we would be allowed to walk through the drive through. I don't think so. And we weren't in a condition. We literally had eyes on the Wendy's. It's one parking lot over from our Airbnb. Yeah.

Yeah, but you had to get an Airbnb, or I'm sorry, you had to get it delivered. But the fact that there was a spoon, and I'm seriously not, I kind of don't, speaking of hacky, I kind of don't like the idea of spreading rumors about a delivery driver that is sus. But I do think it's weird that they included a spoon and no Frosty, and it seemed like you had wondered out loud for a moment if maybe the restaurant did provide the Frosties, but the drivers maybe, the Frosties took a detour into their tummies.

not to make accusations against the gig economy workers in this tough economy but we ordered two one spoon came and one frosty was on the receipt yes

one frosty on the receipt one spoon

I think the nuggets being left out were the workers at Wendy's because the bags were closed and the spoon was in the bag

and it didn't feel rifled through I feel better than

The reason that I was feeling a bit suspicious about the delivery was because I felt a little embarrassed that we had ordered this food from a Wendy's that we could have walked to in under 40 seconds. So when they pulled up, I said, I know this is weird. We're so close, but I don't think that we're allowed to go through the drive-thru line if we're not in the car. And he said something to the effect of, oh, we had to drive across town and get this from another Wendy's, which I wasn't really buying. Oh, that's interesting. I was immediately a little bit suspicious about the overall situation.

It was also one person's name. I think a woman's name possibly. That happens a lot, though.

Sadly, I know far too much about this industry. Yeah, I don't ever knew this. I'm not proud of myself. I've got people that I will, because sometimes, you know, for me to order groceries out to the Madrona Hill studio, or for me to drive and get them, it could be, you know, I don't know, 45 minutes down to town, get the stuff, come back. Sometimes I'm just busy. I don't have time. And so I'll actually have groceries delivered, which I don't know. I feel a little I don't I feel not great about that. But I do know a lot about now the whole business of having stuff brought to your house. And it's often a person in their car, but maybe with their significant other. That's a pretty common thing. And in a way, it's like it's sort of sweet because it's people spending time together. But it also makes me feel sad because I feel like we live due to late stage capitalism. We live in a world where the way that people sometimes can spend time with their significant other is outdoor dashing. Yeah, I could see that. You know, because they're working around the clock on various gigs to try to make the bills. And this is like this is our special time now.

And so, yeah, we have to. So we want to be together. But if you're one of them has to have that gig, then that's how they're going to be together. Yeah. Sure.

One last thing on the this Taylor Farms, they do sell some of their. lettuce to those like you know bagged lettuce operations yeah yeah so I don't know I mean I

guess sort of caveat emptor I kind of stopped buying those I feel like there was a period of my life where I was buying a lot of spring mix a lot of spring mix but I really I buy not iceberg lettuce now I'm romaine romaine I buy I am obsessed with romaine lettuce it does tend to be in the bag which I kind of don't love to be honest with you you can get a really big thing of romaine that usually just has a big like kind of twist tie around it but I like the hearts of romaine better But again, I'm not super conscientious about this, but the idea of single-use plastics is way more in my head now than it used to be. And so I don't love buying produce in these thin single-use plastic bags, but that is my go-to now to have romaine on hand. I haven't bought like a spring mix or any of those pre-mixed salad bags in a long time.

I am a complete romaine fanatic at this point. You are too, okay. And this is my move. I have this big, it's like a Japanese, it almost looks like a meat cleaver kind of knife that I bought. It was not expensive. It was like 20 bucks. But then my nephew, Jack, by the way, who turns 16 today, shout out to my nephew, Jack, Jack Lee Brooks. He is like an incredible knife sharpener.

Okay.

And he was over at my house and he sharpened this thing. So it actually is quite functional. And I use it to cut up everything. Did he lock eyes with you the whole time he was sharpening it? Knife sharpening sounds like a weird hobby for a then 15-year-old boy. I promise you, it's all above board. But he actually got the knife. I asked him to do this because I had a sharpener that I bought that I didn't know how to use. And so he had sharpened all my knives. And then he could actually do the thing with a piece of paper where he would just hit the knife and just slice right off. Wow. But I love this knife now. And I use it to cut my veggies all the time because also it has a nice bit of weight to it. So it kind of does some of the work. Oh, a nice knife. And I'll cut the romaine super-duper thin. That's the key. Like if I'm, you know, putting it in a salad or maybe even on a sandwich or whatever, I like to see how thinly can I chop this romaine.

Interesting. Yeah, because you're cutting it down across. You're cutting it into ribbons, like, right?

Yeah, I'm taking that, you know, that big stalk or whatever you want to call it. I cut the end off, and then I'm just like, and then I wash. This is the thing I've been doing, too. I'm washing my vegetables after I chop them. Is that when you wash yours?

No, I wash them first. Although lettuce is a sticky wicket because you do wonder, am I getting down in there enough? And I think lettuce is a very important thing to wash as we are learning in the news.

Absolutely. When was the last time you shit your pants? Been a while?

That beep does nothing.

The beeps mean nothing. I'm a big fan of, okay, a couple of things. I was going to say a pro move. I'm not a pro look. What I like to do is I keep the stem on and I slice like long ways. I turn it and slice it long ways. Yeah. Romaine? Hear me out. So you slice it long ways twice, and then you ribbon it. And so it's like ribbony, but also smaller pieces.

How does long ways even work?

So it's on its side. Yes. And you cut here, and spin it in here.

So it's just three chunks now. Oh, I see. I see what you're doing. Yeah. And then he chops it the way we chop it. The way normal people chop it. Sometimes I go once down the middle, too, if it's a really big leaf. Yeah, down the middle.

you are yeah right and then and then you leave the stem on so when you're ribbing in it ribbon

ribbon ribbing in it ribbit i think that's my favorite thing that is my new favorite piece of

audio as your as a ribbon i get it like stays in place and then you chop it and then they cuff this at the end but then as far as washing it invest in a salad spinner yes i have that yeah this is

my whole system salad spinner in the sink okay usually i'm already pretty angry at the mariners by this point i've i've wrapped up watching chris hayes and now it's time to uh mutter under my breath about situational hitting and how it's not happening for us and i have i sit there uh i've got the you know the countertop i chop up the veggies and then the you know so i like let's say the stock or the the end of the romaine i'm not going to wash that because i'm not going to eat that i chop that off toss that out chop up the carrots the romaine all of it and it's all going into the salad spinner that's in the sink and then when it's all chopped up in there and then you hit it with the water you spin it i think it's a pretty good system i'm very proud

i may have invented it i want to um talk about washing produce more uh i want to switch the conversation though to talking about washing fruit specifically berries so when i bring fruit home from the grocery store. First of all, I wash it all right away. I want the fruit in the refrigerator to be pre-washed. Yes, always. I don't want to grab an apple, you know, a peach or whatever it is, and then have to wash it, then eat it. So when I bring home the fruit, and then also I'm bringing home kind of like a lot of berries and stuff, and I'm often like throwing that directly into like kind of a...

just a very quick fruit salad uh during these months i'm often bringing home a pineapple which i know is not a berry but i cut up a pineapple i put it in a little you know a tupperware then i throw in blueberries i cut up some strawberries i put them in there and maybe some grapes so here's where i'm going with this my entire life my process of washing these fruits has been to uh wash them in the sink usually in a colander right and then letting them dry in the colander But, you know, picture a bunch of blueberries and strawberries. I'm shaking them under the water, in the colander, kind of shaky, shaky. It's kind of fun. You feel, I don't know, bringing some pleasure. And then that's it. You rinse them, you let them dry, and then you put them in the fruit salad or wherever you're putting them. But here's something I started doing recently, and I don't know why. This is before the whole cyclopara, whatever we're going through. Cyclosporiasis. Cyclosporiasis outbreak. I don't know why I started doing this about a month or two ago, but I was like, you know what? I don't know if these things are getting clean enough in the colander. What I'm going to do is I'm going to take one of these nice bowls. Genevieve has a bowl addiction, so we have a million bowls around the kitchen. And so I take a big bowl, and they tend to be brightly colored. This one that I have is, like, kind of a bright yellow or a bright green. And I put all of the fruit – I clean them in the colander first, but then I dump them into the bowl, and I let them soak. I fill the bowl with cold, clean water. And I did it one time just to see, like, how much more dirt is going to come off of this after I've already done my usual colander method. And my goodness, you can see the dirt when you empty it out. It sticks to the bottom of the bowl. I had not been cleaning this thoroughly enough. You have to let these fruits soak.

Yes. Addy got me this amazing set of what are called makanai bowls. They're from Japan. She got me this for my birthday. And they are incredibly well designed. and they've got a little strainer lid that you can put on the top of them. Oh, wow, that's great. So when I get, so you can see, Andrew, I'm showing you this online. Nice. So when I get, like, my blueberries or whatever, I put them in the bowl, fill them with water, let them just sit there for a while, let them soak, and then I put that strainer on top, dump it out, and put it in the fridge, and I'm ready to go. Have you noticed that I've really become a fruit boy in the last?

You've been eating a lot of blueberries during sound check.

I know, and cherries. Don't forget cherries.

You were crunching on something the other day. I didn't want to ask you what it was, but you were, like, during the show, You were, like, crunching on something. You were, like, tossing. Did you have, like, nuts or something? Maybe I had some sort of... Pistachios?

Who knows? Your fingers were bright red. That was probably the pistachios. That might have been the pistachios. Hey, I saw that we had a phone call coming in. I wonder if someone has a story for us that is both entertaining and appropriate on the topic of cyclosporiasis. Hello, you. Let's hold on one second. How about this one? Okay. Ahoy, ahoy. You're on TBTL. Who's this?

If you're calling from the 360, you're on TVTO. The call is coming.

You've been on hold for a while. You may have gone back to sleep. Hello. Hello, we can hear you. Who's this?

This is Sherry in Port Townsend.

Sherry, my goodness gracious, how are you?

Can you hear me? We hear you just fine.

Do you hear us okay? I think we have a little bit of a delay. How are you doing today, Sherry? What's going on over there?

Yeah, I'm hearing you. I'm seeing you on screen and hearing you double in my phone, so it's a little disorienting. Oh, can you turn? I'm not going to talk about poop. No more poop talk.

Oh, well, Sherry, this call is over. I appreciate you being part of the program. Now, let me ask you this. Do you want to mute us on the TV so it's a little less confusing? Oh, I already have. Okay, okay, great. So you're hearing us now just in single audio, right?

Yeah, I am now.

All right, well, you've already completely torpedoed my plan for the day. So what is it that you would like to talk about?

So we have, I suggested on the chat, and I think we're in agreement, Can we talk, can we have callers come in and call and talk about when they first connected with other 10s?

Actually, it's heartwarming, but only if they and the other 10s were both almost having a bathroom accident. What's that? It's only if they, if the other 10 almost had a bathroom accident. If there are stories of meeting 10s through that, no, absolutely. People can, listen, people can call in about whatever they want. Did you want to talk about meeting a 10 or connecting with 10s?

No, it was just an idea.

You don't have a poop story. You don't have a story of connecting with tens. Sherry, what is going on?

Let's talk about this for a second. Sherry, so it sounds like you really don't like the poop talk, huh? I just heard a very deep, heavy sigh coming from you. You don't like this either, huh?

Well, I don't want to get into it. I'm a colon cancer survivor.

Ah, I see.

So poop talk is kind of part of my life.

Yeah. I understand that So to you It's not the The sort of Quote unquote Grossness factor It's really

What story do I tell Right Absolutely

And also, I could see it being, if that's too much a part of your life in a way you wish it wasn't, then hearing more of it could be a little bit less than fun for you. I totally understand that.

Oh, I think it's funny.

You know, one thing I want to mention, Sherry, is something has changed deeply in my relationship with Genevieve in that when I'm on a trip like this now, I will, and in fact, I'm going to read this directly. I'll get a text message from Genevieve. Oh, boy. Out of the blue.

I already know what this is about.

You're telling me specifically about the quality of poop that our dog just took. I don't mean that we're in some sort of a conversation, and I'm like, well, how did it go? I was just, I think, maybe doing my job yesterday. Maybe I was sitting at Gandalf's with the boys, and out of the blue, Genevieve just, I can't, oh, here it is, out of the blue. I'm going to read this. Genevieve, if you're watching, apologies. I know this was a private conversation. Out of the blue. At what time? 1 o'clock in the afternoon. Lucy has had two huge poops today already. She woke me up at 3 a.m. and then again at 8 a.m. So we should be fairly safe for a while. Out of the blue, that's where our relationship is at. How are you guys doing? Well, the thing is... Well, that sounds super familiar

because we've been double income, no kids, but multiple dogs as a couple. And so poop talk was part of dog talk. It's how you assess health, right? Well, and John's got...

a couple of dogs, so he's probably got a lot to say on this. But what I was noticing is even when I was dog-sitting Gigi and DJ, and they're, like, very housebroken. They're, you know, they're older dogs. But every time they went to the bathroom outside and I witnessed it, I felt relief that they got it out of their system. They weren't inside when it happened. Does that ever go away, Sherry? Are you always kind of relieved when your dog – did you take your dogs –

Well, we don't have dogs now, but I pay attention to other people's dogs. but I think that the 10s that are on the chat are probably disappointed in me because we are still talking about poop.

Wait, so you're saying, Sherry, hold on. You're saying that the 10s, there was the people that are commenting on YouTube, which, by the way, we're streaming on YouTube right now, there's a general sense that they would like us to aver, to go away from the topic of number two stuff. That's the general consensus.

And they recruited you to pass this message? That's what I saw.

No, no, I recruited myself.

Sherry, did you, when you were...

You know me. I'm not shy about this. I'm not really shy about anything.

You had dogs in Port Townsend? Did you have a dog in Port Townsend?

No, we had dogs when we lived in Seattle, but when we started this weird lifestyle of ours, well, it was after we had two dogs that we lost in fairly short order and decided it was time for a change, and we came up here for a long weekend and three months later had rented a house. And it was, oh, my God, Luke, it was at the same time that you were moving here, and I felt like such a, I don't know, like a stalker.

Well, that was pretty much exactly how we ended up there, too. I think we went up for the weekend and we're like, why do we not live here? This is the most beautiful place in the world. How do you feel about dogs on North Beach and dogs being off-leash on North Beach?

You know, I feel like once you come around the point where the bluff is a little higher, I don't really have an issue with it, but I don't think dogs should be off-leash near the parking lot because there's too many people and too many kids. But, you know, it's, I don't know.

Yeah, I think you're right about that.

People are looking for a place to run their dogs, and I don't have an issue with it because I want to meet every dog. But I can understand why people don't like it.

Yeah, you know, I had Rudy out on that beach all the time, but more down where we were living and not over towards the parking area, but I was always stressed that people were going to be mad at me. Sherry, is there anything else that you wanted to talk about today, share with us, bring to the table?

Well, I want to put a plug in for you to bring the TBTL-a-thon to Port Townsend.

That is a really interesting idea, Sherry, and one that I have kind of been thinking about lately. I don't know if I've shared this with John and Andrew, but I miss Port Townsend. It's a great town. I think it's close enough to Seattle that if we did an event out there, I think folks would show up. Oh, yeah. And it's just, yeah, it's a really, really great place that I miss a lot.

And we did a special week of programming there all those years ago from the post office, of course.

Right, right.

But, yeah, you know what?

I stayed away from that because I really, oh, God, the temptation to go knock on your door was so great. And I'm like, you can't do that. I was not that person that did that. I know people came to your door, but I did not.

That would have been fine, but also thank you. I guess that was, you know, that was sort of respectful of you. I do feel like people would occasionally slip a note under the door. Although, that's what I get for telling everybody where I was doing the show from. So, anyway.

Everything's knowable now. Everybody's location is knowable now. So, you know, there are no secrets anymore.

And, Sherry, I just want to compliment your phone line. Oh, go ahead. I just want to compliment your phone line, by the way. This is a great phone line, and that is the most important part of calling, the TBTL line, is being on a great line. Thank you for that. What were you going to say before I cut you off with that ridiculousness?

Well, no, I'll tell you that I'm calling from a landline.

There it is. Oh, that's the key. We're Luddites.

So do you want to hear the extent of how we are Luddites? Yes. We have a landline that we use for all of our inbound and outbound calls, pretty much. We each have cell phones, of course, and Peter has a work one also. But we don't do any streaming. We don't have cable. We don't have satellite. We don't have any form of television. We do watch things on DVD that we get from the library. We were just talking about this the other day, that we save a lot of money by not paying for any streaming services. We are Luddite.

Sherry, it sounds like it's a miracle that you listen to TBTL. That's what I was going to say. As a podcast.

We are total podcast addicts. Oh, we are just, oh my God. There is not enough hours in the day for each of us to listen to all of our podcasts.

So that's the one technology.

We get all of our news from podcasts. We get most of our entertainment from podcasts.

Well, we are tremendously grateful to you and Peter for all your support over the years in the morale department, in the financial department, and then just being awesome department, and we appreciate you, Sherry.

Yeah, thank you.

Well, say hi to Ohio for me. I was born in Athens and lived there for a while. My family, both sides of my family, are from Ohio. Oh, nice. It's fun to see you guys there.

Yeah, we'll go track them down. It's a little smoky here, but we'll go find your ancestors.

I don't know if I could find them.

Okay.

Well, it was nice to talk to you guys.

My buddy went to school in Athens at an OU, and he called it Harvard on the Hawkins. I don't know if that would be entertaining to you or not, but I just wanted to end this conversation with an awkward joke.

Good.

Thank you, Sherry. Goodbye. Thank you, Sherry.

Appreciate you. Is the Hawkins? Is that like a—

I think it's the Hawkins River. Oh, okay. What if I even got that wrong? Hawkins River. Harvard on the Hawkins. It's Hocking River, I think. Harvard on the Hawkins. Yeah, so he called his school, that is, and saying that Ohio University is Harvard on the Hawkins.

I went to, the first school I went to was Westchester Community College, and we called it Harvard on the Hudson. Oh, there you go.

That was more ironic, though. We are here, of course, this is the final day of the TBTL-a-thon, and it's been... Thank you for being a 10. It's been, as it always is, it's been incredibly life-affirming for us. It's also been bank account affirming, which is a big part of why we're here, because we're raising the money for the show so we can keep doing the show. And thank you so much to everybody who has been donating and stepping up. It's just been incredible to see. A lot of folks have been, you know, really looking to help out because of, you know, thinking about other folks who might not be in the spot to do that this year. And just thank you to everybody. And it's so heartwarming because we just sit around, you know, back at the Airbnb, like John will say, oh, this person just emailed in and said this about, you know, you know, why they like the show or why they're upping their donation or just kind of like thoughts about tbtl and and what it means to people and it is just like again as important as it is for us to raise the revenue it's just like nice first of all it's nice to be in the same room as the two of you that's really fun and to just kind of be sort of basking in the glow of like the tbtl community it's uh it's a really incredible thing so yeah tbtl.net is where you can

go and help us keep this thing going yeah it's been nice to hear from people who are including little notes or sending notes to John. And John has been kind of copying us and some of his replies as we see people talking about what TBTL means to them, which is very, very sweet and why they give and how long they've been listening. And it's always very, very encouraging. We're having a conversation on the way here today because we want to be transparent with you guys to let you know that we do need your donations to keep this going. As we've said, we don't have ads like this is the only revenue stream we have right yeah i'm just making actually like we don't well you were selling burgers on the side for a while there tbtl branded burgers aside from that

oh and like we've sold four sweatshirts this year so there's that exactly you got that actually the

merch store like for real that is basically a wash for us we don't make money off the merch i mean maybe a penny or two on the dollar or something yeah but um but no this is this is it this is how we do this but also because you're so special to us as listeners and we know you you know we knew

sherry immediately we know sherry right and i know that peter just ran the inter-urban trail the other day because i saw him on facebook because he's eagle soaring sure yeah and i mean

we could we could go down a list of all these people we know people i see at the grocery store when i go there you know arlen i see you arlen not i not arlene um so we don't

I don't also want to get on these microphones, though, and berate you into giving or make you feel guilty into giving. And I hope you kind of understand that it's hard for me to ask for things. I'm trying to get better at, like, the reason we got this desk here for the shot that we're doing this week was because I had to, like, ask for something. I'm always shy about doing that. So we appreciate you guys going to tbtl.net, donating, and also, you know, making it easy on us not to, like, twist the screws.

We were talking about this in getting into the car today to come out here from the Airbnb. And each morning of the Thon, I think generally speaking, we'll have a little kind of pregame sesh. Hey, what are we thinking about for the messaging today? Kind of where are we at with things, with the goals that we have for the show financially, et cetera. And, you know, if we were, if this were a public radio station and it were the last day of the public radio pledge drive, and John knows this better than anyone, there would be a whole system of kind of closing the deal. And, you know, there'd be probably a special part of the binder that we would be looking at that would be helping us, you know, get get as they say in Glen, Gary, Glen Ross, get them to sign their name on the line that is dotted. But what we realize is we're getting the car is like we actually don't really want to do that because we just know how the tens are. And we know that if you're somebody who can support the show, you probably already have or you might be planning on doing it today. You're going to do it like it's it's not the typical relationship with this kind of thing where it's like we got to really like we've got to get everyone, you know, get them to sign and get them locked in and whatever. It's not like you trying to sling field and stream. Right. We don't have someone coming through behind us to call and and get everything kind of locked in. It's more just like we just want to say thank you. You know, thanks for making this happen. and letting us do this all these years. And thanks for all of you for supporting us this week as well. There are some really great thank you gifts as well, which you can see at tbtl.net that we are super duper excited about and excited for all of you to get. The T-shirt, as you've mentioned, people are really excited about the T-shirt because it's a great design. It also, I think, you know, it sort of predicts or confirms, you could say, that we are going to win the Frog Jump Championship on Sunday. We are in flight 17. I don't know what that means, except the rumor is that it would be maybe around 1.30 or something. So if you're planning on coming out on Sunday and you want to try to see how our Dave does, that's, I guess, we're in flight 17.

Yeah, we should actually specify that a little bit more because I do know that people want to come out and hang out with us at the Valley City Frog Jump. By the way, I heard a Valley City Frog Jump shout out on IdeaStream, the WKSU public radio station I was listening to this morning where I used to work when it was still in Kent. But all of that is to say it's an all-day event that begins at like 10.30. I think opening ceremony is actually 10.15 or something, and the jumping begins at 10.30 and goes until 5.30. So that's a very big window we've been giving you all week, but it does sound like we're probably going to be arriving at the Frog Jump ourselves probably midday-ish, probably around noon-ish maybe.

Yes, we're going to hear it about noon.

And then if you want to come hang out, we're going to have Luke, John, and I are going to have to like at some point, maybe separate ourselves out and go behind a bush somewhere and record some podcastery for Monday's show.

You always make it sound so voyeuristic. I mean, we are the podcast that brought you this frog. Oh, yeah. That sounds like a frog who's hiding behind a bush podcasting.

Exactly. So if you see the bushes all shuffling around and rattling, we're just doing some podcasting. But yeah, but we do want to, I mean, basically this is a day we're not doing a show or anything, but we just want to hang out with you guys.

And, again, I do believe, I'll confirm this with one of the Daves this afternoon. The frogs? No, the human Daves. Oh, okay. That we are going to have, I believe, some little area, a little pavilion or something. And when we figure out where that is, I don't know, maybe we can post it on Facebook or something. Or, I don't know, maybe we bring a little sign over with us or something. I don't know how we're going to indicate where the sort of TBTL hang is, but we will do our best to make it very obvious. I guess like 5,000 people or something come out to this. So it's kind of a thing. It's kind of a whole production. But again, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for for all your support this week. If you've already gotten to it or if you're going to be getting to it later today or even this weekend, people can still log on this weekend. Right, John. And they'll be they'll be in the system and they'll be getting their thank you.

Absolutely. Yeah, we'll keep we'll keep the donation page up for a little bit longer. And if you want to make your gift and get your set of cards or your T-shirt, wherever you may be interested in getting, you can definitely go to tbtl.net slash donate. and uh that'll be available for for certainly a few days but this is this is the the final day really so you know again like building on what you guys are saying we don't want anyone to feel pressured or obligated or forced into it but if you were planning to make a donation you give once a year anyway you're planning to do it again like now this is the day dude just get it out of the way and and and thank you if you're watching this

if you're watching us live on on youtube right now and you're on the fence about donating just i don't know if you can do this on your phone screen or on your laptop just in enlarge enlarge enhance enhance and look at the face of a fifth grade andrew walsh oh yeah running for vice president of liverpool elementary school um and just look at that face and think like Like, do I want to support that adorable cherubic little face? The answer is yes. Of course you do.

Think about that boy. He didn't win the election in 1987. He never got to be vice president. This is his chance.

Let him touch those things.

Let me touch those things.

Can I get a, in the words of Paul Giamatti, I could really use a win here. He could. Please give him that win today, my friends at tbtl.net. hello and welcome to top story all right i actually have another topic people can call in on since nobody took the bait on number two talks it's 206-414-TBTL this is the topic should we stay on daylight saving time this is the big news this week something called the sunshine protection act which has been kicking around congress for many many years it passed the house at some point, but then not the Senate. Now this week, it's actually passed the Senate. It's yet to go to the House. And what it would do is it would leave all of us on what we're on right now, which is daylight saving time. And it seems to me being from the Pacific Northwest and somebody who really doesn't enjoy it when it gets dark at four in the afternoon during the winter time, that it's kind of a no brainer. But there were like Pramila Jayapal and Adam Smith. And And I'm forgetting a couple of other folks from Washington State actually are in opposition to this. Based on safety, you said? So there are two schools of thought on this. The one school of thought is that by staying in daylight saving time, you are going to extend the period of darkness in the morning. It is going to be dark until like it's not going to get light until like 9 a.m. some of the time. okay and that's maybe less safe for people in the morning particularly kids going to the school bus

it's oh that is true the kids days are shifted yeah um and also some people say that it's actually

not our circadian rhythm that our circadian rhythm is attached to the real the sun the setting of the sun the rising of the sun and when we do daylight saving time we're kind of messing with nature we're kind of trying to sort of reorient our day around there being more light now what that also means And so it will get light later in the morning, which nobody likes. I don't know anyone who likes getting up when it's dark. There is something, at least for me, that tells me this is not how it's supposed to be. But on the other hand, it also means it will not get dark at 4, which also seems to me to be kids are maybe taking the bus home or milling about outside the school. I don't know why the 8 a.m. darkness is more dangerous than the 4 p.m. darkness.

Was it my understanding when I was younger and I was learning about this? Isn't it, it was for farmers, right? So people, families working the fields and stuff. And does that, I mean, I guess we have better lighting, luminary technology these days. So is it not as necessary for them as like, or do we just not care about them?

Well, one of the articles that I was reading about this the other day said that they actually did this. This has actually been done in America before. I forget exactly when it was. Really? But it went from being a very popular idea. Maybe somebody can Google this as I'm talking and then call in about it. um it was they did this and it actually ended up really dropping in popularity after they did it like so there was some period of time where we weren't leaving daylight saving time and i remember from the article they said that even the the well maybe they were saying the farmers were also not fans for whatever reason staying in daylight saving time which is allegedly for the farmers was actually not popular with farmers for some reason i don't know why somebody in the comments

said 1973 they tried it it looks like and so i mean listen i i would still probably rather it

not get dark at 4 p.m that's just selfishly motivated i think i'm there's a chance depending on the day like if it's a saturday it's not a great chance but i might be asleep anyway at 9 a.m like i i feel like i know i'm gonna be awake at 4 p.m and i would like it to not be dark i may not be you know like the the hour of darkness i think between let's say 8 a.m and 9 a.m i think will be less bothersome to me personally than it getting dark at 4 p.m. That's one that I have a real tough time with.

I don't have a very strong opinion about this, but the appeal to me is actually just the cessation of switching. That's the only part that I don't like, whether we're switching back and forth. And so, therefore, if I'm going to advocate for getting rid of a system in which we're switching, then we have to choose standard or daylight. And I guess I'd prefer daylight. But now it's gotten a lot easier. I mean, with our phones automatically updating now.

And probably a lot of appliances and stuff. But, you know, back in the day, you had to like you had to remind everybody that the time change is coming and, you know, set all your clocks, go around the house, changing your clocks or what have you.

It's easier now, but it still seems it just seems inconvenient and unnatural sort of the I guess British Columbia has actually done this already just recently. They're staying on daylight saving time. And one other thing, one other provision in this Sunshine Protection Act, which I believe Marco Rubio was a big proponent. And apparently the current president has also signed off on it, which makes me inherently suspicious. Nothing will get me sort of doubting something I thought I wanted more than the people who are supporting it.

The real reason behind it has to do with crypto or something that's going to happen. Yeah, probably.

Exactly.

Because the crypto farmers, the crypto miners. Those are the farmers they care about.

But yeah, I think I think I'm inclined. Oh, the one thing about this this current bill is it allows states that don't want to stay in daylight saving time to opt out, which also seems kind of messy.

No, no, no, no, no, no. We all got to get on the same page with this. I don't like this. I mean, I'm not going to say I don't like the states, but I don't like the fact that, like, some states do. Isn't there a state that half of it changes and half of it doesn't? Am I spreading slander?

No, I think that's like Arizona, right?

Is that the Arizona?

Arizona and Indiana does something. But that might be more time zones. Indiana does something goofy.

I feel like we need to get on the same page.

The amount of time that we lost in the 80s saying like 8, 7 central or whatever that was. I remember TV always saying the show that was coming up and it'd be on at 7, 8 central or whatever. The people in the central time zone had never experienced the fact that they're an hour off from everybody else.

And it also, I know this has come up before, but then also, why did they only mention Central and not Mountain and West? But I guess that's because the schedule actually shifted for them. Like, they held SNL, even though it was supposed to be a live broadcast. They air that at, you know, what? What does it start? 11.30 p.m. West Coast time. So it's not even live for us, right?

And also, yeah, definitely it's not live for us. um john in minneapolis in the twin cities what time are you guys on the roughly the same latitude that seattle is so are you guys also getting it is it dark super early there in the winter time

yeah we're pretty far north we are but i don't know exactly the latitude of seattle but it's

but it's close like what do you what do you prefer do you prefer it being dark in the morning or dark

in the afternoon i guess i because i work from home uh i and we don't have kids so like that kind of stuff's not a concern i don't think i think i prefer to be lighter at night because like even if it's dark when i'm getting up like i'm getting up and letting the dogs out making a pot of coffee but then i'm not like getting out there in the world jess might disagree with me because she has to get in the car and go to her office but for me personally it's like i think i would rather have the the light in the evening especially because she'll get home from work walk the dogs kind of thing yeah what does manan say arf yeah okay oh that's right that's interesting

Hey, it looks like we have a phone call. Somebody want to weigh in on Daylight Saving Time. Hi, you're on TBTL.

Ahoy, ahoy. Hi, guys. How are you doing? Great. Who's this? This is Alicia just outside of Boston.

Hi, Alicia. How are you?

I'm doing well. How are you all?

We're great. Did you just reach out to me on Instagram or was that somebody else?

No, that was not me.

Somebody had. This is a good idea, and I think we should do it. you know, Becca is running the Boston Marathon this year. And somebody reached out to me on Instagram and said, hey, when you're going to be out there, let's do a little casual Boston's hang, which I think sounds like a blast. So Circle, I mean, I'm assuming you'd want to come to that. Maybe that's a big assumption on my part, but I'm definitely. Absolutely. No,

that would be amazing. I'd be happy to help organize. Okay, great. I'm down for that.

fantastic did you want to talk about daylight saving or bathroom accidents or meeting tens

um yeah well door number three i was inspired by sherry's idea if you're going number three

you got real real problems what kind of lettuce are you eating uh yeah no fair fair there's

ironically a new taco bell just opened in our town like within the last couple of weeks so

great day for that do you mind saying what town it is or are you trying to maybe be a little anonymous

no no i'm fine i'm in sharon massachusetts oh yes i don't think i know sharon but okay

is it a small town is it a big deal when a taco bell opens um well there were definitely people

who wanted to make it a big deal it is we're right next to um foxborough so where um gillette slash Boston Stadium or was or what have you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you have a...

Is there a story about connecting with the 10 or, you know, the friendship of the community of listeners?

Yes. This is a story from a while ago, but it just, for me, just encapsulates the past so much. This was about 10 years ago. I was flying from Boston to Oakland, and I had a layover in New York at JFK. And I thought, you know, this will be lovely. The terminal there had just been completed. I'll have like a nice little dinner and then I'll hop on the flight to California. And then of course it was delayed, delayed, delayed. And then the delay messages started to get changing. I wish I could remember the word, but it didn't say delayed. It said rewrap it or something on the monitor. And so we go to the gate and they say, because of greater than usual headwinds, We're going to have to just make a quick stop in Buffalo to get additional fuel.

Oh, my gosh. Wait, so you've already flown from Boston to New York, and now you're going up to Buffalo to get more fuel to fly over to Oakland?

Yes, because, you know, Andrew, you mentioned small towns. New York, famously small towns, could not have enough fuel there. So they're like, okay, we've got to do this. So they start boarding all the special people, you know, like you, Luke, like, you know, all the various.

Thank you for my service.

Yes, it's important. Thank you. Thank you. And then, so we see, you know, 30 people, whatever, get on. And then those 30 people come off. And then the flight attendants and the pilot come off.

Because someone had a bathroom accident on the flight. I knew where the story was going.

Honestly, I wish. I think that would have been easier. It would have been simpler. No, they said we do still need to go to Buffalo to get more fuel. However, we are currently overweight to land in Buffalo. So before we leave, to fly to Buffalo, we need to siphon off some fuel here in New York.

What? Did Joseph Heller book your flight? Yes.

I forgot to mention that piece.

Yossarian on the upgrade list. Wow, that is so ridiculous. ridiculous so we have to get rid of some of the fuel so we can go to buffalo which is not on the

way to get more fuel right okay exactly perfect perfectly logical so i did what any um totally level-headed logical person would do then which is i went to facebook to complain and um posted in the sense page and was just like i just this is crazy like send me good vibes i don't know if i'm ever going to make it to california and so finally we get on the plane i think the flight was supposed to leave at like 6 p.m i think we left at 10 30 or 11 and then stop in buffalo and so while we're on the ground in buffalo i was able to turn my phone back on and in that you know very short flight from new york to buffalo not only had a bunch of tens commented you know with like the appropriate amount of love and empathy and frustration but bobby pape had connected me to pilot will on like a separate dm who i'd never met i think bobby as a at the time was also a boss 10 so maybe i did to a meet up and met him there i'm not sure but you know he just being the connector so while i was on the ground at midnight in buffalo i'm now messaging with pilot will who is telling me how crazy this is to him as well like this makes no sense whatsoever and then there was also they discovered there was an issue with the plane's door

while we were in buffalo so good times there yeah not enough gasoline in the plane door

yes right yes for sure yeah they shouldn't have siphoned that off yeah um but yeah finally made it to oakland i think it was like four in the morning and then like a week later will wrote me again and said he had talked to some of his other pilot friends and had heard of a few other instances of this but it was just such a lovely connection to the community and people who i'd never met when i was in this moment of just feeling not only lonely but just sort of in the

midst of this ridiculousness yeah that's i mean i've heard stories of people like just going to the airport and giving tens rides to places because you know they were stuck or there were rental cars or like and bobby is great by the way we love we love but i think he's bobby and eerie now right yeah i think so he's running the the eerie philharmonic um but uh but yeah like just the way that the tens of listeners really look out for each other and uh and are just always there and it's like i say it a lot this week but it's like you all are really the kind of the secret sauce of this whole show and added It's sort of like what my mom does with her own children, except maybe in a slightly less, I don't know, way. So my mom's way of, generally speaking, helping her kids out is to have her other kids help her kids out. So, like, if one of us is dealing with something, she'll get on the horn with one of the other ones and go, hey, could you go help out with this? Or so-and-so's, you know, of my siblings, has got this going on. Could you, like, take care of that for them? That's like us with the tens. We're not that helpful, but you all are so helpful with each other that it feels like we're kind of helping.

Yeah, that's why you have so many kids, I guess.

Yes, definitely.

And that's why you guys brought on John, too, right? Yeah, exactly.

Yes. My large adult son. These are my daddies. Yes, exactly. Well, thank you for sharing that story with us, and I'm glad you made it to Oakland in one piece. So it just turned into a red eye, apparently, right, eventually?

Exactly, yes. And whatever plans I had for the next day did not happen as planned, but it's all right.

I'm glad that it was able to draw you and Bobby and Pilot Will closer together. So, hey, thanks for calling in. Thanks for being part of TBTL. And I'll see you in the Boston area when it's time for the marathon, okay?

Fantastic. I can't wait. Thanks, guys.

Bye, Alicia. All right. You know, we've actually got, you know what? We can play this little sound effect. I brought these all the way out from southern Washington. and I might as well get some use out of them. Here I go once again with the email every week. We still haven't figured it out if we're going to try to get a refund on that.

It's not from a female.

Speaking of the tens and donations and emails and things, John had sent over a couple of emails from the tens that were kind of sweet, kind of notable this week related to the Thon. Let's see here, and comments. Oh, this is from, it's okay if I use folks' names, maybe just their first name. Is that okay?

Yeah, it's certainly first names.

I'm guessing that if somebody emailed us, they had a sense that, you know, we might share this with people. This is from listener Madeline, who says, I've been listening to TBTL since day one. Whoa. I was 10 years old, and I would look forward to going to bed each night to listen on my clock radio. Oh, my God. Madeline, same, same. I was a clock radio kid. I was obsessed with listening to the radio. I would get so excited to, like, I was listening to the weirdest stuff. larry king live or sally jesse raphael or talk net with bruce williams and then later on love line i really loved i was a grown up by then but um uh i'm now 28 and i recently badly broke my leg trying to be young and adventurous sorry madeline um i wasn't able to walk for months and i was stuck at home in my walk-up apartment i'm so grateful tbtl was there to keep me company what you do is so important uh madeline thank you for listening to this since day one that's wild and 10 years old, tuning into Cairo Radio. I wonder if Madeline's folks just had it on in the house or Madeline was just kind of a precocious 10-year-old.

And now, is it present tense broken leg, or is that what it says?

It says, are we on the heel, are we on the mend? I'm 28 now and recently badly broke my leg, so recent sounds recent.

Hope you're getting on the other side of that.

Yeah, Madeline, thanks for checking in. Thanks for being here since day one. And Jared said, special shout out to the love of my life, who has been a ten of yours for years. I adopted the ten hood a year ago, and I regret not listening to her about this amazing show in years past. Love you, Brie.

That's very sweet.

Brie has been listening to the show and was telling Jared about it. And Jared has, let's be honest, as we men so often are, he was just being kind of bullheaded about the whole situation. And now Jared is listening and and loves the show, which is nice to hear. That's I mean, starting to listen to the last in the last year makes charity very. Oh, my gosh. Like a preemie. Just a zygote. Like can't doesn't even can't like barely can barely see the world can barely make out colors.

That's right. Be careful with his head.

At what point does Ten Hood start? Is it at?

Let's not do this. Yeah.

Yeah. That was one of those ones that right when we started, it was like, what's the logical extension of this conversation? and how do we pull it back? Oh, my goodness. Let's see. Scott said, I'm watching the show at work at the pot shop. Oh, nice. Scott, if you have any recommendations on the kind of pot I should get into, I'm all ears. I've been really meaning to explore a relationship with a healthy amount, a small amount of marijuana. I've never really done it. I feel like it's probably healthier than, let's say, ethanol. And I just need to figure out my deal with it. So if you work at a pot shop, maybe you know. Maybe you can give me some advice. Anyway, Scott says, I'm watching you at the pot shop. I'm usually a bedtime listener. But here we are. The question.

is what if tbtl went away i don't want to be stumbling around looking for similar content you guys and jen have been a great sidebar to my life for uh 15 plus years and i love you guys take my money today and i will be here to donate next year also uh good luck jumping hashtag frog

life do i love it do we have we use a system called donor box people come to tbtl.net and and that's how they donate but there's a back end mechanism called donor box and john you're the one who runs that do we have like some sort of a way for people to donate dank nugs via donor

box i think they would have to go through as a physical item the po box but then i think that's

trafficking we like so yeah let's not mail so even legal even legal substances let's not let's not

But if you, like, show up to, like, a TBTL event, like the 5,000th episode next year, we could take things in person.

Wow, you're really pushing it.

Well, I just wanted to say dank nugs. And I just meant generally I can use some advice on the topic. I was looking out for you guys. Yeah, please do not bring any drugs to the 5,000th episode.

Good Lord, and please don't bring any drugs to the frog jump on Sunday. I'm still trying to impress these people.

Unless they are performance-enhancing for the Dave's. If anybody has the cream or the clear or any kind of horny goat weed. Actually, they don't need that. They're all horned up, as you can hear from that. You know, it's interesting Scott mentioning about, like, you know, if the show were to go away and that whole thing. Because, you know, I'm a big Howard Stern Show listener. And he's now going down to once a week, I believe. I think they're on summer break, but when they come back from the summer break, he's now the the rumor is the word on the street is they're going down to once a week and my relationship with that show is is it's not quite as intense maybe as some of the tens relationship is with tbtl but it is a thing that i really love and i know that you know he's not getting any younger and he certainly made all the money that he needs for the rest of his life and he's constantly talking about how like he wants to retire and stuff and like uh you know it as a fan of the show it's like i'm trying to i have to sort of grapple with like oh what's it going to be like when that show does not exist and it went from being you know five days a week to three days

a week yeah three days a week in about three months of the year right doesn't pull back a lot

and then two days a week he just signed a new contract and it was two days a week and now again the rumor is wow in the new york post who doesn't like him because he aligned himself with kamala uh that he's going down to one day a week and all that is to say we're going to stay at five days a week uh for the foreseeable future because um well because we like doing this and you all have been nice enough to support it all these years so scott you don't have to worry uh about us but um

yeah we're gonna be doing this for a long time i'm sorry i don't i'm gonna start a sentence and i don't have a good answer for it i'm trying to figure out what the what the new york post's headline would be stern burns his listeners that's yeah it's not really good because they have the

creative headlines right and so they do that's all i have such a complicated relationship with that newspaper i would say it's in the top four papers i read every day and i like actively hate

it what about howie wowie stern goes down to one day a week maybe although wowie seems that seems

more like a marine dowd headline okay it's it's uh yeah i i sit there and i like hate read the new york post i get so many they just said you know howard's end there we go hey i'm sorry to

interrupt you that's good ding that's good that's also that's howard's end we got it we got that's

assuming i think that's a great headline that's assuming that anyone who reads the new york post

is familiar with the film howard's end can i um mention that i um because i'm guessing that i don't know if we have any call do we have any more callers on the line we don't have anybody on the line right now um i'm feeling very very wistful today as we wrap this up because i was saying to my parents um when we were visiting them the other day you know coming back to valley city and coming back to specifically be inside the school was a dream of mine for a long time like this school is where i grew up and um i have such specific memories inside these walls and sometimes when i'd come visit my folks we would just kind of i'll kill some time drive around valley city see the old sites and we would drive around the parking lot here and we'd say well there's the old school but i was like well i'll never go inside it again it's not a school anymore and i assumed it was very different inside here i didn't know that like so much of so much of the structure around us has actually been preserved um or at least not not renovated or changed and um and it's been so exciting to be here and and again luke you weren't here for this i'm kind of glad of that because i was probably acting pretty embarrassingly but like john you were here when I was freaking out when I saw the old cafeteria. It was adorable. And seeing things that I hadn't even remembered and then seeing things that I did remember and having confirmation, oh, that's what it looked like. This is Mrs. Linder's room. whatever it was, and then to see the floor of the cafeteria. And I'd forgotten about that jazzy, snazzy linoleum floor in there that they have. And I was having some real freak-outs when we got here. And now here it is. Now we've been working out of this building for a few days. And so the novelty sort of wears off a little bit. And so I'm trying to, like, before the show today, I'm kind of wandering around trying to take it all in one last time because maybe this is the last time, you know, I don't know. But it was kind of special to think that, oh, well. And, of course, all I had to do probably was find somebody who worked here and asked, could I get a tour, you know? But it seemed like I would never be in this building again. And now I have a key to this building. And I've had a key to this building all week. And I've made several copies of it. Brian, you didn't hear that? No, of course I didn't. And it's also an electronic fob. I don't even know if you can do that. But if anybody knows how to dupe these things. No, of course I don't want to do that. But it's just kind of like, oh, wow, yeah, I thought I'd never be here again. But now here I am with a key. We could, you know, come and go as we please. Everybody here has been so nice and special, but I'm trying to like just drink up the nostalgia one last time. You know what I mean? I kind of don't have a word for what for all of my nostalgia junkie ism. I've never had this particular experience before. And I'm kind of like just trying to drink it up before we kind of because we're going to tear all of our stuff down here a little bit and say goodbye, you know?

Yeah. I mean, next year we're going to have to do it from the lighthouse ranch. Right. That's the only way we can. Which doesn't even exist. I believe it's actually been torn down now at this point.

That makes me a little bit more nervous, honestly. Do we get out of there? You can check out any time you want.

You don't want to do the show from the cult that I grew up in as a kid?

Do you guys want to do Brookside Elementary next year in Yorktown? Sure, yeah, yeah. So anyway, this has just been a really special week, and I'm not trying to rush us out the door here if we're going to take more calls, but I just wanted to share that with you. I'm just feeling very, very wistful on this Friday. And again, thanks, TENS, for joining us on this journey.

Let me ask you, Andrew, because this was so personal for you this week. Like, has it gone sort of the way you expected? Has it been more nostalgic, a little less emotional?

As far as the nostalgia is concerned, better. Like, I love seeing that. I mean, there are small things that wouldn't mean anything to you guys, but just, like, when I first came in this room and saw that they still just have, like, the heating unit over there that looks like, what is that design? Kind of 1960s design or whatever. And honestly, like, seeing... Hold on. Wait a second, Andrew. I worked really hard on this.

Memories are made. I only used this one time. You must remember this. memories bring back memories bring back your yeah what were you noticing in the room when

you walked in just like the fixtures and going into one room and seeing the lights those really old school hanging fluorescent lights that are again probably 50s or i'm guessing maybe 60s or whatever just small little details to see the hallway floor to look down and be like oh yeah the floor hasn't changed and it's that was actually i don't know if i said this on the show on monday that was a little bit of a as i was going on my nostalgia journey with the guys showing us around they kept on taking everything i said with a as a little bit of a slight i think because i'm like nothing has changed this floor is the same they're like yeah we gotta change the floor like don't don't change the floor i love that it's the same floor that little andy was stomping around when uh when he was running for for class president apparently or vice president Sorry, I got ahead of myself there. But, yeah, so seeing all that, I would say that it's paid off way more than I thought it would, that it's preserved way more than I thought. The fact that, like, I literally saw some of these shelves in a classroom that I not just remember, but there's photos of me, like, goofing around in front of these blue shelves that used to be filled with little golden books or whatever it was. And now they're empty, and that was kind of an interesting thing. But to see the stage where I performed, again, as Santa Claus number one.

I was starstruck. I'm really more of a California Raisins guy myself.

Yeah, but I'll sign both as Santa and as a California Raisin if you want my autograph.

As we're wrapping things up here, I just want to say, again, a huge thanks to all of the 10s for supporting the show and for jumping on YouTube and watching us and chopping it up on Facebook and Slack and all those places. We are, again, so, so grateful. Thank you also to everybody here at the Liverpool Township, the Daves, our friend Brian, the various folks that are on the town council or the township council. Like they were really game about this. I think I sent them an email very much out of the blue that just said, hi, I co-host a podcast with somebody who grew up near where you all are doing this thing. and i'm wondering if we could come do the podcast from from uh your town and they just rolled out the red carpet for us and and set everything up and again installed not one but two air conditioning units in this room so that we wouldn't uh roast alive and they've just been so nice to us and they're um giving like they don't usually let you pick when you're going to be in the frog jump contest. But they're kind of helping me out with that for our purposes and the CBS stuff. So I just want to say thanks to them as well. And again, thanks, Andrew and John, both you guys for like all of the work. I mean, I think it was the frogs who said it the best when they hacked into my account the other day and sent out an email.

Yeah, sure.

It's like the amount of work that you're both doing in the lead up to the show and then in the posting of the show and the managing all of the donations and different questions and stuff. While I'm generally looking at TikTok is is honestly it's unprofessional. Of me so I I'm gonna I'm gonna step my game up But but thanks to both of you for all of like getting here Sunday lugging this incredibly heavy desk Well when there was no air conditioning going on I I'm amazed you guys weren't and maybe you were just like kind of cursing under your breath at me for no

Lollygagging no no we curse over our breath at you. That's fine. So you will know but I do have a little update So we had a little sidebar conversation. I think this is interesting So this desk that you're sitting behind, this is like one of the teacher's desks that was here when I was a student. So heavy looking. This desk that I'm sitting behind, the student desk, I remember this and also the older one that John has. I remember these very, very well. I spent many hours when I talk about stories of like playing 7-Up or just having to put our heads on our desk because our class was being rambunctious. I can still smell the cleaning solution that used to be on this desk, you know what I mean, with my nose pressed to it. And so that's been fun. But the thing is, these were in a different room, including this teacher's desk. Now, this teacher's desk is heavy. A metric ton. It is so heavy. And John and I took this from a storage room down the hall. It's the last door in the hall. We carried it. And somebody even said, you can use a cart for this. And we didn't. We just carried it. Now, the carts are gone. The carts are in use out at the Frog Jump. So we can't use a cart anymore. And John and I, and I think you were a part of this, Luke, before the show, were saying, so do we have to return this desk or can we just leave it here? And maybe the maintenance crew will take it back or something. And, you know, John, you know, I'm all for this. John, you said, well, we should definitely we should at least try if the door is unlocked. We should do it. We should leave things how we found it. And I agree with that, generally speaking. But I was like, yeah, but the storage room door is probably locked. We can't just take it out to the hallway.

Low-key, we were very much hoping that we would not have access to where this desk goes. Yes. Therefore, could plausibly say we didn't take it down there because we couldn't get in. Exactly. I'd say high-key. Yeah, high-key. Low-key, high-key.

Low-key, high-key. And then I saw our friend Brian in the hallway. How dare you. I tried not to make eye contact with him. I tried to just walk by as quickly as possible. Don't say desk. I pretended I was on the phone.

And you said, hi, desk. How's your desk?

I was on my phone I was yelling bye bye sell sell I was trying to look busy but he was unlocking the door and said okay don't forget to take this is where the desk goes and I said well what about one of those carts he's like those are gone now so Luke all of this all of this is to say this is your opportunity to make it up to us you have a date with this desk I have a date with Descany

and show title all right we got there yeah i am uh i am not looking forward to moving this thing but it's the very least i can do since you guys uh put so much work into getting this all set up so again thanks to both of you uh thanks to everybody out there in um podcast land uh for listening to this and spending this week with us we really appreciate it thanks shout out um to bob and Joyce for feeding us Lakewood's finest pizza. I finished that pizza at around

2.30 in the morning last night. It was great. It was exactly what I needed.

We're going to be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for all of you. We'll let you know how the frog jump went. That's right. It's going to be a special new episode that we're going to actually record it on Sunday throughout the kind of lead up and then the actual frog jumping that we're going to do with our Dave. So please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great rest of your Friday. Have an amazing weekend. Stay safe. Take care of yourselves. Don't breathe in too much smoky air. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Right there.

Power out.