before the show because now I'm racking my brain. I cannot. And I'm sure that all of you know why we were talking about Oreos so much. I cannot remember the origin of this. What's the Oreo origins? But somehow Genevieve became part of this conversation, too, because she stopped by Trader Joe's last week at some point and bought a bag of JoJo's. Again, the Trader Joe style Oreo cookies or what have you. And she had never had them before. And she said, yeah, you planted the idea in my head and this is all they had, and I said, oh, well, JoJo's, I think a lot of people actually think they're better than the original Oreos. Isn't that right? Like, do we have JoJo heads out there? Because I feel like it's one of those almost, I don't know, culty kind of things, the cult of JoJo's, right? People, like, swear by them, but Genevieve ended up trying them. Maybe I built them up too much, because I said, oh, you're going to try the JoJo's, very exciting, and then she tried them, and she said, these are definitely not as good as Oreos. I'll be honest with you, I ended up not trying them. So good, good journalism on my part there. So I can't weigh in on this, but I was kind of astounded. I was like, Genevieve, people love JoJo's. There's a whole thing about JoJo's. And she's like, well, those people are wrong. So you can take, you can take that up with her. I'm not getting involved, but a listener. Jake was apparently talking about Walgreens brand Oreo style cookies. If you see them, grab them, maybe send them some, Just send it to Perfect Daddy, Chicago, Illinois. I was telling you earlier about this link that was sent to me by Brian in Seattle. It's an article from PennLive back in 2014 written by columnist David Jones about Mr. Red. That name, doesn't that sound like something from like some sort of like anti-communist propaganda? Watch out for Mr. Red. But apparently Mr. Red is actually the mascot for the Cincinnati Red. And David Jones, who is a Reds fan, apparently grew up really hating Mr. Red. I'm going to read a little bit from this article. Everything about Mr. Red was totally indicative of the club's tight-fisted, knit-witted management. Mindless, arbitrary, and done on the dirt cheap. Right down to the fact that Mr. Red had a number on his uniform, number 27. Not like 81 for the year, or something zany like number 000, or even something really wrong like number 666. No, Mr. Redd was number 27. Why number 27? Nobody knew. It was recently reported by a Redds blogger that club majority owner Francis Dale, who would later become a member of Richard Nixon's infamous committee to reelect the president, he assigned number 27 to Mr. Redd because his kid's favorite baseball player was Dale Maxville. Yes, Dale Maxville, a journeyman shortstop best known for playing in the 1967 World Series champion St. Louis Cardinals, but never even played for the Reds.