The brainwashing is horrific, so without going into great details, they torture you in ways that would make a German POW guard wince. They really push you to the edge of death. The other thing that really clicked, Kathy O'Brien talks about the verbal cues to trigger events. You have all these different personalities, but she was an encrypted messenger. We think of encrypted messages as digital, but she would actually be sent to deliver a message to the president of Mexico saying, my president would like to tell you to do this and this and this for NAFTA and he'll get back to you, blah, blah, blah. Message over, right? You could trigger the different functions with keywords. Now, the critical thing is they use a lot of Disney movie metaphors, which Disney itself as a corporation has a problem, not just because there's kids nearby and therefore there's, but I think the corporation has strong foundations and some pretty sick stuff. they use disney characters with the kids and wizard of oz triggers and stuff like that so imagine some kid decides to tell a teacher something what's the kid gonna do the kid's gonna talk about how prince charming did such and such right and right away they're gonna be dismissible because they're using fictional characters to try to tell a story that's not fictional and so it provides great cover now the other thing is true is the networks i used to think the pervs were soloists. They're not at all. They're elaborate networks, big networks.