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What's up? What's going on? What's happening? Chaos, I love it. Everything. Yeah. The world's crazy. The center of the storm. I think the world's back at war today again, like officially, right? I don't know. I don't think that agreement with Iran lasted at all. Which one I think there's there was bombings today in Lebanon and I think there's bombings today in American bases I try to not pay attention to it. I really do. Yeah, I try to distract myself with science stuff and space I was watching this documentary yesterday on how they make chips like how they make like semiconductor chips dude this fucking machine that they use i'm gonna send you this jamie because it's bananas it's like one of the most complex machines in the world and this this machine they use to make semiconductors make chips and they were explaining the process of making these chips how fucking nuts it is man the the amount of atoms that are stacked on and like the way they do it to make these like super complex high-end chips there's people out there tony that are doing things way different than us okay we're out there talking about sucking dicks and people shitting themselves and what's going on in other parts of the world is people are doing science fiction like they're they're actually doing science fiction uh here it is give me a I like to save things. Here it is. The world's most important machine Yes, did you find it? Yeah, but just go to the there's some animation where they show how they make these things Like it was right where you were at Yeah, okay. Oh, okay. So they're just showing some of the the different aspects of how these things are made. Go back to where that guy had the laser beam. That's perfect, actually, where that guy had the laser beam. So this is him explaining this. So look at this. Back it up a little bit and give me some volume. Back it up a little bit, please.

I want to introduce it to you with a thought experiment. Imagine you are shrunk down to the size of an end. And you're given a laser that's strong enough to melt through metal like butter. Next, a tiny droplet of molten tin, roughly the size of a white blood cell, is shot out in front of you around 250 kilometers per hour. And your task is to hit this not once, not twice, but three times in a row in 20 microseconds with your little laser. Well, that is exactly what this machine does. It hits one tiny tin droplet three times in a row, heating each one up to over 220,000 Kelvin. That's roughly 40 times hotter than the surface of the sun. and it doesn't just hit one droplet it hits 50 000 droplets every single second how often do you miss a laser shot we don't miss them what you do 150 000 laser shots a second and you don't miss one exactly the same machine also contains mirrors that might just be the smoothest objects in the universe if you scale one up to the size of the earth then the largest bump would be no thicker than a playing card what on top of that it is able to overlay one layer of a chip perfectly on top of another and never be off by more than five atoms and this is all happening while parts of the machine whip around at accelerations of over 20 g's for 30 years almost everyone thought that actually building this machine was impossible and yet it exists there is only one company in the world that can make it so what is this company and what is this impossible machine they've built

this video is that's it wow yeah what are they doing with that all computers like computer chips that are getting better and better and better all these ai chips this is how they make them one

interesting thing i can just add i know when they make those they make like a big sheet of chips you know like there'll be like 30 or 50 on them they'll test each one and the ones that are the best like to test out like one out of a hundred ones that are like closest to 100 become like the i9 chip and if it's like uh 85 out of 100 it becomes like the i7 chip so they all come off the same sheet it's like the best ones become the best chips they sell them for the most money

and the next one's not just a little degraded no kidding interesting so where there was that issue with that samsung chip factory and it was about they weren't

Getting the results that they wanted so it's probably they were getting more the shitty chips. Yeah, they're not enough of the perfect They want really high-end chips, and it's the real you can talk we have a fan in here sweet Yeah, I mean imagine if everybody died and It was just us in this room, and there was like three late. Well be more than that We'd have to have more people otherwise we're gonna fuck up the gene pool We're all going to look like the English royals. We probably need a few thousand people. A few thousand people, like regular people, like you and I that don't know shit about how these things work. How much time would we need if we repopulated the earth with what we know? Basically, you're starting out like a fucking, like a half-assed prepper, you know? Like someone who's on an episode of Lost, you know? Like one of those plane crash people trying to figure out how to survive out there. You're fucked. Oh, yeah. You're not inventing that. Uh-uh. How long is it going to take? Infinity. And how many people have to pave the way? This is the thing. For every one of these people that makes an invention like this, you're making this on the back of thousands and thousands and thousands of fucking super geniuses that have figured out each and every step of the way that can lead you to thinking, is this possible that we could do this next? They all build on each other. So you need all these guys, and hopefully they don't get any pussy. because otherwise they're going to get distracted. You know, I bet if one of them gets a hot wife, like one of their patents kicks and they start making bank and then all of a sudden he shows up for work in a Ferrari and next, you know, he's got a hot wife. Everybody's like, oh, my God. Yeah. Civilization just went back 100, 200 years. We're going to lose Tim. Yeah. Tim's taking Adderall, coding 18 hours a day, trying to figure out how to get us to Mars. Actually, that's a bad point because Elon clearly gets pussy and doesn't seem to be affecting him at all. I think Elon's different. This episode is brought to you by Create, the leading brand in creatine. You'll love their gummies, but now they've also launched Creatine Plus Electrolytes Mix, perfect for hot summer months. Creatine is proven to support gains in strength, lean muscle mass, and aid recovery, but it also has cognitive benefits, more energy, focus, and neuroprotection. Plus, they're NSF certified for sport and third-party tested for safety and potency. Visit trycreate.co slash rogan or use promo code rogan for 20% off and free shipping on your first subscription order. This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. We all like to find ways to save ourselves some time, like ordering out for dinner or meal prepping so you don't have to cook during the week. If you're a business owner looking to hire, a great time-saving hack is

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Definitely different. Yeah. I mean, some people are different, different, different. It's fascinating how many people want to find flaws in what he's doing. Instead of just looking at this like, wow, this is an extraordinary time to be alive. but it's because of this narrative that people have one of them the big one is this USAID is killing people narrative that people have died because of USAID and then a bunch of people have given examples of how them cutting the funding has led to the end of certain people's lives like where they're in hospitals that didn't have any funding and there's a lot of that that you could point to say right if they had the money they would have had the funding and they would have had that equipment in place or maybe they wouldn't have but here's the other thing that's not discounting the fact that a lot of that money is fraud yeah a lot of it like it's not a little amount and the idea

that you should let it go on because it's going to save lives and there's a bunch of people that are stealing money. Okay. I see that argument. But why are we sending them money in the first place? Did we do something to them? Do we owe them money? No? Okay. We're just being nice? Are you sure we're just being nice? Is there anybody profiting off of us being nice? Because usually just being nice for no reason and just giving tax money away for no reason, I don't think they do that. I don't think that's real. I used to think that was real. I used to think that charity was real. And now I look at it, I go, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a giant scam that's wrapped up in virtue. It's wrapped up in a nice cozy blanket of being kind and compassionate and virtuous and doing good things for people all around the world. I think a lot of people get involved in those things because that's what they think. We're going to do good things around the world. Good people. I really believe that. And then they find out how it really works. And then they get stuck in that system and then they're making their way up their, you know, air quotes corporate ladder to the point where some of them are making a million dollars a year. And you're like, what is this? What is this? This is a business. This isn't really charity. Most of the money is going to your employees and your overhead and your, why do you have such a big building? You're like, what are you doing? How come you're not just funneling the money to these people? Exactly. Like the LA fire aid. Great example. Spencer Pratt told me how many, what number did he say of nonprofits got that money so over a hundred million dollars gets raised i don't know the exact total all of it goes to these different nonprofits i think he said 200 different nonprofits got the money yeah so and then what happens to that well they just pay their employees they pay overhead they pay their rent on fucking nice office on wherever they live fuck man it's so disheartening because you you've so that's what all that stuff is and it's also if you listen to wait when mike benz has been on my podcast a few times and explains usaid people think of it as aid you think of it as oh we're helping the world which is great right but it's not that it's the agency for international development and it involves funding rap bands overseas that are uh the subversive rap bands that are supposed to uh excite people to take over the government there's like a bunch of like weird shit funds rebels it funds newspapers and what was he talking about like there was a lot of it like funding rap music like this is crazy people have long said that rap music even though listen you love hip-hop I know you just got back from Kanye West. I'm a huge hip-hop fan. We've got to talk about that at some point. We definitely do. I love hip-hop.

But there's some people that believe that gangsta rap in particular, when it came about in the 1980s, was a part of the push to popularize it and produce it, was a part of the government, some faction of the government, some intelligence agencies, wanting to create more crime. wanting to fill more private prisons wanting to erode the fabric of society so they could push for more laws to keep you safer this is like the one of the most tinfoily of tinfoil hat conspiracies but people are pointing out that right now it's like one of the rare times where no rap music is on the charts yeah and they're saying well how does this coincide with USAID was USAID like actively promoting rap music was that one of the reasons why rap music was so possible pop popular is that real that can't be real maybe back in the day it seems like that would be more manipulative i don't see i believe that until i heard mumble rap i'm like this makes this is not real this is trying to make people stupid yeah there's there's something about this you know and obviously some artists are better at it than some of them are fun the way they do it but i'm saying there's a giant chunk of them that are inaudible you don't know what they're like who's who's into this oh almost all of them are inaudible like what what's going on there imagine if like that was it was like uh people heard nas and like this guy's too smart uh we got to dumb it down a little right we got to promote some people that could barely talk yeah we got to promote some people that are on cough syrup apparently yeah that's have you ever done that cough syrup no they seem to love it yeah a lot of dudes who are into that that cough syrup man they they swear by it it's crazy it's got to be fun it's got to be enjoyable is it codeine is that what they're doing i think so have you done it jamie but we talked about this before but i remember um back in the 90s i got a hold of some nyquil the real nyquil like i guess they changed the formula for NyQuil, and I had, you know,

whatever, the flu or something. And I took some NyQuil and I was laying in bed and I was like, this is wonderful. Yeah. It was wonderful. Like the, just the warmth, the softness of the pillows and the warmth of the bed with the covers over me. I'm like, oh, this is wonderful. And I remember thinking, ooh, this is dangerous. Oh, yeah. Like this is a dangerous feeling because if your life was shit and you found that, like that's better than anything else that's happening in your life. Yeah. Yeah. You can get it at CVS. Crazy. What was in the old NyQuil before they switched it?

I avoid that stuff like the plague. I'm afraid of medicine.

So this stuff probably was like sitting in my house if I took it. So it might have even been older than 97 or 98, whenever this was that I was sick. But I'll never forget it. Because I never forget like getting scared. Like I could love this. Like I could just drink this during the day and just like sit on my back porch.

If I have the day off, just get obliterated with NyQuil and just enjoy the universe. I told you about that time I took a half of the pain pill that the dentist gave me for my wisdom tooth. I was like, oh, fuck. This is life-changing.

It says the earliest NyQuil formula include ephedrine, which is a decongestant, doxylamine, sussanate, which is an antihistamine, acetaminophen, dextromethorphan, cough suppressant, and about 25% alcohol. Oh, I was getting drunk too. Wow. Wow, what changed in the mid-2000s after the combat methamphetamine, there it is, they removed pseudoephedrine. So was that the stuff? So it wasn't codeine. But is there, I think there is NyQuil with codeine though, right? What I had was pretty good. I don't think it was as simple. Yeah, you had the stuff they could make meth out of or whatever. Yeah, okay, we'll put it in perplexity. and perplexity says in the mid yeah NyQuil brands sold in the US do not contain codeine and there's never been a standard Vicks NyQuil with codeine in it's active ingredient lineup typical NyQuil form so codeine so does any cough syrup have codeine in it

that's what lean is

they add it or is it just prescription cough syrup

that was the whole thing about it

maybe I am fucking up my memory and maybe it wasn't NyQuil because whatever it was it seemed like I get fucked up off NyQuil

but you have to drink like the whole bottle you get NyQuil like just get fucked up I definitely

didn't drink the whole bottle I know I took a dose like a strong dose I mean you're just getting

fucked up off 25% alcohol and a little bit of a little bit of side meth see the thing is it's so

long ago I can't remember I say NyQuil because it's like saying q-tips yeah you know or Kleenex just because it's tissues or ear swabs i don't know if it was nyquil but it was cough syrup whatever the fuck it was and i felt wonderful and i remember thinking like this could be a real problem like that one day in bed because i'm always scared of stuff like that i'm always scared to get i knew too many people when i was growing up that got hooked on stuff yeah and it just derailed their life so lying in bed i was like oh you can't do this again no more of this right i like it yeah yeah i got a knee surgery once they gave me morphine they made morphine in a drip and they say that you can only hit that button so many times it stops giving to you yeah but every time you feel pain you just hit the button because i was on like a perpetual motion machine yeah so my legs going and i'm just this bang bang bang bang we yeah this episode is brought to you by zip recruiter we all like to find ways to save ourselves some time like ordering out for dinner or meal prepping so you don't have to cook during the week if you're a business owner looking to hire, a great time-saving hack is ZipRecruiter. Its newest feature lets you meet the most interested, qualified candidates first. Try it out free at ZipRecruiter.com slash Rogan. And it doesn't just let you meet candidates faster. You can hear why they're interested in their own words. Save time and meet great candidates sooner with ZipRecruiter. Four out Out of five employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter.com slash Rogan. That's ZipRecruiter.com slash Rogan. Meet your match on ZipRecruiter.

The closest I come to that, because I've never had like a serious surgery or anything, but I go to this, they have a dental office here in Austin called the Austin Dental Spa. so their whole thing is like a luxurious dental experience and they will hook you up to laughing gas and they let you like if they're like they're like you want a little more and i'm like okay yeah and that's like the close I get to it is once every six months or so I go there and dude I'm always excited about this fucking experience it is so awesome you ever come up with bits after doing laughing gas does it give you any ideas no but during the thing it makes me weirdly honest you ever seen in kill bill when he shoots her in the knee with the honest gun because he was a chemist for like a living it's like his secret job so he comes up with this truth serum and I've noticed that it makes me like weirdly very honest so one time when i was in the dental office the guy's doing whatever and i'm like and i'm jacked on laughing gas because it's not really you're not really like cracking up you're just like in heaven and you're like it's kind of smiling ear to ear and i remember going like how long did you go to school for dental school he's like whatever the answer is like eight years and i'm like did you ever think about going longer and becoming a real doctor and i realized like kind of in the moment even though i was fucked up like that's that sounds mean but i think they're totally used to it i think they know that laughing gas makes people fucking i bet they're not used to that dude that's so mean it's not supposed to that's what i'm saying is it's like a dangerously real doctor a dangerous truth serum some people want

to be dentists yeah we need them too yeah you know crazy gig yeah that's a weird one i know

You might just have a bad breath they smell. And just weird things lodged in teeth for God only knows how long.

When I got my root canal, one of the reasons why I had to get it is because I had a cap on my tooth or a filler, whatever it is. What's it called? Filler. No, when they just fill your tooth up. Why can't I remember? Fillings. Why did I say filler? Whatever. Yeah. It was an old school one. You know, it was like white plastic. And when I was a kid, I used to have them, they were like fucking lead. They used to give you lead fillings, which is crazy. Like kids had lead in their mouth and it was hurting. It was bothering me. So what had happened was I had cracked the tooth and it had gotten infected underneath the filling. So he takes the filling out and drills into it. And the smell that came out of my mouth, it was pus. all this pus came out and this fucking horrific smell i was like oh my god is that coming out of my mouth yeah he's like oh that's normal it's decay right there's an infection under here we're

gonna treat it you're gonna be fine yeah piece of elk from seven years ago this is a long time ago

this is a long time ago it was before i was hunting i think but it was uh i you know people die from that stuff which is really crazy like if you don't take care of your teeth and you get that kind of infection those kind of infections can become septic yeah well it's nuts sometimes i'll

do a thing where i'll water floss after i brush my teeth just to see what would have been left in there if i just did what normal humans do because i was a bunch of high pressure water flossers that i fucking love complete game changer for life and it's insane what will jet out of there with get stuck deep in between the teeth and everything and you know i think you're i would for the most part i do it before i brush but every once in a while i'll be like i wonder if there's anything left in there you know yeah you have to floss yeah you're gonna get a bunch of shit stuck in there but and even then sometimes i'll regular floss and then brush my teeth and just out of curiosity go i wonder if there's anything left in there and i'll do a one silver with the water flosser and you see like ding ding ding three little things come out it's like that would have marinated in between my teeth or in the back of my gum line or whatever yeah that's not good

But according to my dentist, he thinks it's all sugar. He thinks if you go back and you look at like when people started developing serious cavities, it's people have always had abscesses and broken teeth. And there's always been like dental problems that haunted people because back in the day, man, they just pull the tooth out. And then who knows what kind of infection you still have in there? And they don't treat it in the 1700s. If you broke your tooth and got an infection, you could be fucking dead. You know, you could die from that shit. But he was saying that the the amount of cavities like steeply increased when people started putting sugar in everything. And then kids started drinking sugary sodas and eating sugary candy and that stuff gets stuck in your teeth. Like, I think that's the cause of it.

Yeah. And probably high fructose corn syrup is probably just as bad or if not worse than actual sugar.

That stuff's not good for your body. That's for sure. Your body doesn't like it. Someone explained to me what's the difference in the absorption of high fructose corn syrup versus natural cane sugar. I completely forget how they explained it, but they were basically saying that there's some issues with how the body breaks it down. When you drink a soda, just think about that. Where in nature do you get 20 grams of sugar just in liquid form, and you just pump it down, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug. Ah, refreshing. Crazy.

My buddy that I went to school with just flew in from Hawaii, which is where he's lived for like 20 years. He's like a wilderness guy, climbs trees and cuts down his own pineapples and coconuts and stuff all the time. He's got a great life. And he checked a bag this trip just a few days ago, and he brought it to the mothership because that's where we met up. And he surprised me with this checked bag that had the moldings built in and everything and had four coconuts. and two white Hawaiian pineapples, I think they're called, which, like, run like $65 each or something in the U.S. Like, it's impossible to get. And according to him, I don't know, he's a real hippy-dippy type.

Is that the dude that you brought to the mothership?

Yeah, Anthony, yeah. Your friend from high school. Yep. Which is crazy. Yeah, he's the man. He's just a real dude. It's crazy when you know people for that long. Yeah, yeah. And so this dude is just living in Hawaii, living his best life. And, I mean, holy shit, these fucking pineapple. He's like, dude, you're going to love this pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. He just kept going on about it. I'm like, all right, okay. Sure enough, holy fucking shit, man. It's nature can deliver you a sugar dose. Because he was saying that white Hawaiian pineapples have higher sugar but much lower acidity than what we're used to. So it makes a whole different, and since obviously it's natural sugar and this and that, it just makes a whole different type of fucking fruit. It's crazy. sounds good wild how we have to go other places to get unbelievable shit well of course hawaii

yeah hawaii really should be its own country yeah i listen i love hawaii i'm glad they're protected by the united states people are cool as fuck it should be its own country it's five hours by plane i mean come on man yeah white pineapples primarily known as sugar loaf or white jade pineapples highly prized rare variety grown in hawaii unlike standard yellow they feature creamy white flesh particularly uh practically no acidity and a complex completely edible core

it was great and fucking he climbs a goddamn tree like a little fucking monkey boy normal little white dude how did he wind up in hawaii uh he's a real free spirit he always was i think he just went out there visited and stayed he's the kind of guy that just gets a one-way ticket places and figures it out as he goes he's in youngstown right now that shows you how adventurous and crazy he is he's like i'm gonna spend a week and a half there i'm like a week and a half in youngstown why's he doing that visit family and friends he said is there a good hotel to stay at and i even had to look this up recently because i'm like i'm not staying at the crazy hotel that i stayed at last time i was there so i'm like best hotel in youngstown and the funniest thing is the actual closest option was in pennsylvania like 50 minutes away truly i mean there's one like double tree downtown but it's in an area of absolute chaos i mean just death wish do you ever go back there and go i can't believe i grew up here always 100 of the time i got a feeling for it immediately when i went to la and i didn't hear police sirens anymore like as often at least you know what i mean isn't that funny like la with la's crime that's what i always thought i'm like oh this is gonna be crazy i've heard these tupac songs like this is gonna be nuts and it was that was usa so peaceful yeah exactly so peaceful in youngstown at least when i was growing up there you could hear a police siren or an ambulance siren almost at any point of the day god my buddy He sent me a shirt recently, too, another buddy that has the stats on it of us being the murder capital. I think it was 90, 91, and 96 per capita. Not the biggest population, but per capita. It was the most dangerous place you could be. When I was in those most developmental years when a kid shouldn't be having his head next to the window. Yeah, there it is. I got that shirt. Wow. Four-time defending champion, murder capital of America. Wow. Yep. In 01, 02, that puts me as a sophomore and junior in high school. And you... 95, 97, I'm 11, 12.

And you're being raised by your mom.

Yeah. On the north, on the craziest fucking area of the whole goddamn thing. The most dilapidated part of the north side of Youngstown.

Wow.

Yeah. I can't believe it. that's why like every part of my fucking story I'm like this is so goddamn weird so weird

it is when you think about it right when you really stop and think about it it doesn't seem real 60 years ago this Ohio city was named crimetown USA crimetown 75 bombings oh this was the mob day

Yeah, so it used to be a mob run town, right? Totally they were called bomb town. Yeah, it was a Youngstown tune-up is a car bomb. Look at this

75 bombings 11 killings in a decade and no one seems to care

They were so nuts in Youngstown that somebody tried to kill the actual prosecutor the actual DA Well, isn't that normal? They always try to do that. Well, it's kind of the stupidest craziest thing you could do because then the entire FBI comes down on you it's a little short-sighted to go we're gonna kill the main cop of this city and not think that anything's going to happen from that well we beat the game you beat the main cop imagine trying to be an intelligent businessman

and also a mob leader imagine like playing things out in advance and but also you're a mob leader

There was a lot of that going on. And I got to see quite a bit of it. Like there were, let's put it this way, mall developers in Youngstown and things like that. And I got to see firsthand very young that they were communicating with politicians at lunchtime and stuff because I was working at this little Italian restaurant at the time right out of high school. and um and having they were having these quiet meetups in a quiet in the corner of a quiet italian restaurant and you would see these huge moguls you know i won't name any names but big business people in youngstown meeting with the local this and that and congressmen i got to meet that congressman and that congressman because they're there meeting with these super duper rich people and i'm like i wonder what the correlation is there bro back then when there

was no cell phones and you know they had to bug people they have to they had to literally bug businesses to get information like they were all doing something oh yeah you couldn't be involved in any big time business if you weren't down with the teamsters if you weren't down with the longshoremen you had a you had a we gotta work this out bobby we're businessmen that's that's

how you did the business give a little money to their campaign not a little but a bit and then you can get your stuff passed and make life easier down the road dude i had friends that had no show

jobs wow yeah yeah i had a friend of mine that had a no show job in new york at the javits center you know the javits center is like a big convention center he had a union no show job

wow so he's a mob guy yeah and they they just gave him money i only get a free check on the sopranos they had those no that's real no show construction jobs they're sitting there with

their portable fans yeah no that's real dude that is a real thing yeah there's they get a certain amount of jobs like they would make agreements like the union would make an agreement we get a certain amount of these jobs it's like you know it's crazy there's really a hundred jobs but we want 130 uh youngstown was a haven for organized crime related corruption was ingrained into the fabric of its society a 2000 publication new republic listed a chief of police the outgoing prosecutor the sheriff the county engineer members of the local police force a city law director several defense attorneys politicians judges and a former assistant u.s attorney as controlled by

the mob so if they have that if they found that for sure imagine how many others there are right

that's everybody that's everybody the prosecutor the sheriff the county engineer the police force city law director defense attorney imagine not being down with the mob like do you want to stay

alive like do you want to work in this business right and this is a city i think we looked it up the other day actually i think it only has 25 000 white people so knowing that black people tend to not be in the italian mob just going off of 25 000 and that's current i don't know what it was back in the day but the point is it's like it's not a big city it's not i think 50 60 000 half or less white so there's don't me yeah there's a little tony watching pro wrestling oh yeah pro wrestling and even then i was obsessed with goodfellas and a bronx tale and a godfather because it's like it's just what you're taught is humanity like that's life yeah so getting out of that and going to la and thinking it was going to be all oh it's going to be crazy gangs and stuff and it's just quiet granted i started in burbank which is a fucking television studio essentially

but when i moved to new jersey and i didn't have any money when i first moved to new york i couldn't afford to live in new in new york city or i didn't even have an apartment i stayed with my grandparents because my grandfather lived in new jersey in newark and um he bought a house there In I think it was like the 1940s and they did a thing called block busting Do you know what block busting is they would go to door-to-door and they would say black people are moving to the neighborhood You got to sell now and everybody sold it used to be an entirely Italian neighborhood Many was like I like black people get the fuck out of here and he kept his house But it was like one of very few families that stayed and then black people moved out And then they started getting like different people's Spanish-speaking people like Dominicans and a bunch of other And that's how it was when I stayed with him. So this is, like, 91? Yeah. I was three years in the comedy, so it's probably 91. And while I was living with him, the next-door neighbor's house got broken into by the cops. The DEA smashed down his door. The dude had an Audi parked in the driveway. He was selling crack, like, right next door to my grandpa. Wow. The whole neighborhood was just nuts, dude. Like, he would get really nervous when I would leave. Like, I would leave to go play pool somewhere. And he would be careful. like it was fucking sketchy yeah but it didn't used to be like when he first moved there it was just an all italian neighborhood yep real estate people even back like what a dirty thing to do scare people into moving that's probably the first project of us aid that's probably

yeah yeah they probably got real estate people to destroy neighborhoods There's something to it. I don't know the correlation of Italian neighborhoods being taken over, not taken over, but whatever, by black people. Like mob-run cities like Youngstown, like Chicago, like Detroit. It's an interesting anomaly. I wonder if there's any correlation between the things.

Well, you know, most of the Italians that came in the early 20th century were very poor. You know, they were all coming over here for labor or jobs and things along those lines. And, you know, when they started doing better, they, you know, they started moving out and moving into the suburbs and moving into, you know, more gentrified areas. It's always what are the new immigrants that are going to come and take over this area that was like formerly a low income Italian neighborhood or a low income Irish neighborhood. It's the same thing. Like there's cycles, you know. it's like there's cycles in fighting too like in the early 20th century there's a lot of jewish fighters like slappy maxi rosenblum you never heard of him right no some very good jewish fighters um because they were poor and they were the the new immigrants you know and this is like before world war ii and then in and even afterwards there was some but then you get italians you get a lot of italians got rocky marciano rocky graziano there's a lot of like uh jake lamada there's a lot of these like italian bad motherfuckers because they were poor yeah and then what happened then you got a lot of puerto ricans a lot of you know it's always like who's the new immigrants right and who are the most hungry come from the most poverty ridden areas like roberto duran came from a terrible part of panama like not terrible but i mean like very poor very violent yeah and he was one of the baddest motherfuckers boom boom man scene he was right down the street yep yeah i mean youngstown's known for boxing yeah kelly pavlik kelly pavlik who's been on the podcast he's awesome yeah he was a beast dude oh man that fight with him

jermaine taylor holy sometimes i still re-watch the end of that how did he survive give me a burst

of energy i mean how did he make it through that was a crazy i mean he got dropped he looked like it looks like the fight was over and then when he's got him in the corner and he rocks him and you go no way yeah he's coming back this is crazy crazy this did you watch uh the fights this weekend jerron boot and boots ennis and i forget the the dude he was fighting no i was at that concert i missed it boots is very good and for the most part he beat his ass but the third round he got rocked the third round was incredible because he the kid he was fighting who's the gentleman that he was fighting james zayas yeah young kid he uh got dropped in the second round like pretty bad boots is very good he's like one of the best boxers alive and then the third round the kid came back and rocked boots and it was just a war just the third round was incredible boots wound up stopping him i think he stopped him in like the seventh or the eighth round uh He just dropped him one last time, and the corner called it. It was enough. Like, he was getting his ass kicked. But he was very, very valiant, you know. It was a really good fight. Like, Boots is better than him, like, clearly. It's like he's on another level. But this kid showed just tremendous heart. But it's like that third round was just coming back from getting dropped in the second. Like, those kind of moments where a guy's getting fucked up, like the Gaethje-Taporia fight. Perfect. example yeah right that's when it's really a fight of a real fight yeah because toporia was

on him in that second round oh man we were so close they were in they were you could hear it they oh you could really you could feel it where i was man and you know obviously we're always close to the cage on those things but then when gate when toporia was landing those body shots it was right against our side of the fence and i'm literally like oh my i mean holy fucking shit man and i've seen a lot of people get ripped to the body before but there's something about his close range strength in near that clinch that close up fucking range of ilia that is scary

he's so good dude he's so good and he's so precise he just tried to like chael i always repeat this because Chael Sonnen said it was perfect. If you try to win by knockout and fail, you won't win a decision. And sometimes you just run out of gas because, like, you're not supposed to fight like that if you think that the fight's going to go five rounds. Like, Ilya had him hurt, and he's like, I can take him out. But Justin's so durable, man. He's so durable. And that left hook to the body, the sound of it, man, is just whip. It's so perfect. He throws perfect punches. his punches are just i mean even justin said it in the post-fight interview like when he's fresh his skills are unmatched like that's a crazy thing to say to a guy who just beat up and made stop he stopped him in the fourth round yeah that's crazy to say like his skills are unmatched but

they really are oh at every point of that i'm at every point of that anybody i think that knows anything about those two fighters is going until this is stopped anybody can win this like even when his face was blown up and his eyes looked black and closed until that air horn rings i'm like anything one punch and we've seen it even with gaethje you saw it with holloway right was it him who did he square up with in the middle yes yes max hit him with that final punch one chin one with one second left yeah it can all be over yeah that was a little different in that

And Holloway caught him with a jump-spinning back kick to the face in the very last seconds of the first round and broke the bone of his nose. Oof. We talked about it on the podcast. And I was like, that changed that fight. Because before that, Gaethje was pressing him, and it looked very competitive, and it looked like maybe Gaethje had a slight advantage. But that's because Max, Max is a very clever fighter. like he's always switching stances and moving and you know really hadn't showed that spinning back kick a lot that hadn't been a feature in a lot of his fights he did it a few times but to for him to land it that way backing up jump to the face i mean it was perfect yeah it was perfect and his nose was fucked and if you're fighting with a broken like a broken bone on your face every time you're getting hit you're getting just blasted yeah you're the pain is insane and then you know he had you know he was a step behind max max was teeing off on him he landed some good shots though even though it was a good fight i mean max was definitely ahead in the fifth round but it was a good fight and then you know during that wild exchange she should never done that yeah he was already fading whereas max was still very fresh fucking crazy fight man

yeah that was a crazy fight i think topuria's nose was broken in round two i think it was pretty

early on and hard to say yeah you know but uh justin did clip him with a bunch of those uppercuts so justin does this thing where he like collar ties you and then throws an uppercut in tight and he's really good at it he's really good at like turning you a little and then throwing an uppercut in these exchanges he collar ties and uppercuts he caught him a few times and you just get one of those on the fucking nose on the old schnozzle this thing's so brittle yeah it's such a if you feel your nose just feel it have you ever seen marab's nose the x-ray of marab's nose you've never seen it i sent it to you right jamie jamie will find it it's crazy look at it looks like oh my god look at that oh fuck bro that thing is destroyed i mean it's destroyed he's getting zero air out of that he's got the best cardio on planet earth and he's getting zero air out of his nose wow but he won't get it fixed because if he gets it fixed he can't fight for like a year and he just wants to keep on trucking yeah that dude's a freak if i was his friend i would say dude you got a lot of money you're a world champion let's fix the nose let's fix it Let's take a year off, come back.

fuck these motherfuckers up because if that guy's got a fixed nose he's got 10% more cardio are you crazy yeah that guy with 10% more cardio that's an extra weapon I would get it fixed but the problem is if he gets it fixed and then like he fights a guy like Halloween he gets jumping spinning back kicked to the nose in the first round and it's shattered as again then he's kind of fucked because if they have to fix it again then they might have to start taking pieces of your rib out and reconstructing your nose and grafting bone and doing weird shit and then sometimes that shit doesn't take and sometimes it gets infected and then you have a bone infection on your face and what do they do then do they have to remove your nose is that what they have to do fuck god scary shit man very much so these fucking dudes man that is a crazy job to risk your life risk your health risk your bones you're making a living by trying to damage another person who's trying to damage you nuts but it's also why it's the most exciting shit in the world to watch exactly so exciting yeah even boxing as you know tamed in comparison to mma because there's less weapons and less options and you don't more padding yeah you don't get the choke outs the crazy choke outs there was a crazy choke out this weekend um his name is rusa boyev and he fought uh god how do i say his last name he fought this russian cat and got him russian or ukrainian i forget um but he got him in a rear naked choke and and put him to sleep and it was one of those ones where the guy looks dead he's like lying there i mean it was a fucking nasty choke man and yeah oh yeah I saw that

it was dark dude it's another meme out this week along with the WME pointing that's his name bro it was nuts the memes on these things are nuts nowadays the internet is undefeated oh it's crazy they're so good at memes

oh my god there's so many people out there working jobs that they hate that are smart and funny

yep we were talking about it the other day but you have you caught up with any of those WNBA, what's her name, the girl that's pointing at her? Sophie Cunningham. Yeah.

Yeah, I've been paying it, can you put that thing in the middle? Put the ashtray in the middle. I've been paying attention very little, but one of the things that I did watch is all the fouls. Like, these bitches throw each other to the ground, and they poke each other in the eyes. Like, they do this, they literally jab each other in the eyes. It's crazy. Like, they foul, and also they travel so much. Oh, it's crazy. They take, like, four or five steps, and then no one calls them.

Oh, yeah. Double durable everything.

Is there a trend now to not call traveling?

Yes, without a doubt. In the actual NBA, it's a thing, too.

It's hard to get into this without going way into the weeds, but the NBA has a technically different rule than college and high school and everyone else where they call it a gather step, and they definitely would call it in high school, But they work all day manipulating it with the referee, watching them saying, like, you can do that, but you can't do that. You can do this, but you can't do that. And so, like, they've got it to a place where everything they're doing looks like traveling and double dribbles, but guys will break it down in slow-mo, and you'll be like, well, technically it's not.

That's weird. I always thought if you took a step, you had to bounce the ball.

Yeah.

That's how it should be. You're allowed to. But doesn't it seem like that should be how it is? Totally. When you see guys taking four steps, you're like, what's going on?

But do you want to see exciting basketball or not? Yeah, I do. All right, well then let's let the referees call the game how they call it.

But I think there's something exciting about you having to bounce that ball because you won't be able to score as much, right?

Correct.

Like if you have to bounce it every two steps, whatever it is.

I wish I loved the NBA like I did when I was a kid and fucking Barkley and Jordan and Ewing and all these people were physical. It is just a whole different game now. So back then was it traveling like when the Larry Bird days? Hell yeah Unless Jordan talked to the ref and said yo, you're wrong. Let me do what I want

Jordan had the cheat code where he would leap from the fucking free throw line That is so when I've watched videos that it doesn't even look real He was such an amazing athlete. He was so good and so possessed by his desire to win he would do things that you would just go how does a person fly dude imagine if he was like a like one of those jumpers those long distance jumpers he probably insane jump yeah because he he's going from the free throw line in the air that's crazy

everything he did was crazy the way he did things the way he practiced everything yeah and did he

not make his college team no high school team no wasn't there like one year when he was a freshman he did

didn't make the varsity team. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, most freshmen don't.

Perfect. May have changed basketball history forever.

Most freshmen don't. That doesn't make sense because they're not even developed yet.

Yeah, that's your plan.

I know kids in Texas that keep their kids back a year.

Wow.

They want their kid to be bigger. I want Billy to be the biggest freshman. I want him to be a 15-year-old freshman. We're pushing for right before his 15th birthday. Like, hey, 15's a sophomore. Billy's a fucking cheater. Why are you sandbagging Billy? Yeah, that I doesn't bother me nearly as much in a sport like football where I see what you're doing Like you're preparing a kid for a professional future perhaps especially in Texas. They're very into it down here But if it's a wrestling it's like hey, yeah Hey, there's fucking no money in this right and that kid's 16. He's in the ninth grade Yeah It's nuts How is the how old is the oldest that a kid can be and compete in high school sports? hmm jamie please put that into our sponsor perplexity let's find out i wonder if it

varies by sport definitely by sport and by state interesting do they all have a cap at 18 or do they allow you to but it's compete at 19 yeah there's gonna be a but before i even hit enter i know it's gonna say something about like your graduating class can't be out maybe more than like two years or something like that in case you got held back or you had an injury or something

like that boy i remember from my days of being like 17 and 18 the difference between 17 and 19 was huge oh yeah it's a big difference fuck yeah by the time you're 19 you're basically man strength you know 17 i was like a boy still yeah you know like i was flimsy 17 i was like a flimsy kid by By the time I was 19, it's a different animal. You've got two more years of training and testosterone in you. If you're a wrestler, that's got to be a huge advantage.

Everything in wrestling is a huge advantage. Starting one year earlier is crazy.

Huge, huge advantage. It's 19 based off of certain rules.

Oh, bro, that's so rude. Making 19-year-olds wrestle against possibly 15-year-olds is crazy. So if you are in a certain weight class that's not strong, Like I wasn't a good wrestler. I was a pretty good wrestler, but I started, I was on the varsity team at my high school. And, uh, like one year I didn't even cut weight or one, one weight class. I didn't cut. I was, I, there was a guy that was below me at like one 26 or one 28 and he was better than me. And so the next available weight class was one 34, which is, that's what I normally weighed when I was 15. So I just wrestled at one 34.

That's lovely.

Yeah, but I could have been in there with a 19-year-old fucking animal who weighs a buck 60 and drives himself out briefly to hit 134. And there was guys like that, man. You would see them at, like, the States, and you go, what the fuck? Yeah. And they were going to camps, so they were wrestling 365 days a year all year long.

Oh, yeah.

I just started. I didn't know anything.

Same. I started as a freshman in high school and got fucked up.

I didn't even start as a freshman. I started as a sophomore. I started as a sophomore because some kid kicked my ass in the locker room Some kid grabbed me in a headlock and threw me to the ground and didn't punch me He could have punched me, decided not to, but I was so humiliated I was like, oh my god, I need to learn how to wrestle And then I also wrestled in the park, like in the grass with my friend Steven And I thought I'd be able, I was a good athlete, I was doing karate I was like, he can't take me down, he took me down instantly I was like, oh no, this is terrible Yeah, it's a whole different beast It's also like how tired you get. I remember thinking I used to think that I had worked out before that Because I had you know taking karate classes and done some Taekwondo. I thought I'd worked out Yeah, you don't even know what working out is until you go through a rest wrestling practice We're running stairs. What what we're carrying guys around the wrestling room You pick up your partner your training partner. You have the firemen carry them around the fucking room oh jesus christ then you're doing push-ups and sit-ups till you puke and then you're doing live drills fuck non-stop dude animals yeah we would rotate uh you know there's all those different

weight classes and just for shits and giggles you know one of the drills was you know escape from the next guy all right beep whistle blows escape you're on bottom you have to get out the next guy so sometimes i at a 103 weight class i would have hugh frost who was i think 235 245 250 oh yeah just for one drill and it's a fucking joke it's a pancake and he would probably he was probably showing mercy at the time obviously but not really because he doesn't want to he doesn't want to let this little fucking shithead 103 out from under him so he's you know putting enough pressure to keep everybody there not to mention the 165 freak of nature made of muscle and the 185 you know it was just a drill but whoo reality hits hard that's how you see the difference between 15 and 17 and all that

and someone who actually really knows how to wrestle just wrestler strength like i always tell people if you want to look at mma like what is the most important skill the the foundation is wrestling the foundation if you wanted your kid to be a badass fighter you're like my kid really loves fighting he thinks he wants to do it but i want to prepare him right which i do teach him how to wrestle get that kid into a really good wrestling program because if you have advanced wrestling you look at how it shuts down so many fighters like look at what hamzat did to drekus duplicy hamzat he just racked all them his wrestling is at such a high level and drekus who was a world champion, couldn't do shit to stop it. He just dragged him to the ground any time he wanted to. Got him in a crucifix like three times.

Merab against O'Malley. Exactly, exactly. You were watching a guy that does a no-look right-hand knockout punch into a salute, no-look at his opponent, right? Get, I mean, it's just impossible. It appears impossible in every Khabib fight. The thing I always think about first when I think about Khabib fighting is him being on top and having his feet under the other dude's feet, which is just, that's it. It's the final level when you can't even begin the process of posturing out in any way. You are nothing. You are a tissue in an octagon with a man.

And he's wailing on your face. He's wailing on your face and he has your legs triangled underneath his legs.

It's always funny when casual UFC fans don't understand those little things like that, that aren't even part of the fight. They're looking up here waiting to see if the punches are going to rain down.

Yeah, here it is.

But the positioning of his feet is what I'm always looking at and how scary it can be here. He's not even doing it right now.

He's hell on top of people. He is right here. But that leg being thrown is torture. It's all the weight.

nothing you can do there's just nowhere to go and all that weight on those hips people don't realize like I notice immediately if I ever see somebody that's kind of on top and their knees are on the ground like if you look his right knee isn't on the ground it looks like it might be and look how he keeps

slamming those left hands into Johnson's head I mean he got hit with like 15 20 unanswered full force left hand blows

bro he's horrible

he was horrible so good Khabib was so good and he would do this to world-class fighters, man And by the way Johnson clipped him in that fight, too It was one of the few times in his career where he got clipped

Yeah, man, that looked really frustrated. What's that? Who's the one that looks super frustrated in that? Barboza. I'm just asking I don't remember who it was. Barboza was one of them

But I mean a lot of guys have fought Khabib look frustrated because there's not a damn thing they could do No, Barboza was like early in the first round. He had that thousand-yard stare was like fuck Like I have to go through three rounds of this where they just give up on the idea that they can even win Yeah, like all you're doing is trying to survive

Yeah, he was a monster dude like that his leg being trapped is

Nuts and look how he's scooting with it and he's just slamming punches and then you get up. He's just chasing you But if you get up he's gonna fucking chase you and drag you to the ground Yeah, so you blew all that energy to get up the moment you try to punch or throw a kick He's on you you're on your back again punch to the face punch to the face Yeah, wrestling's giant. It is the the biggest skill Yeah, you have to know how to do everything else to nowadays because all these kids that like you see in the contender series These young guys coming up man. They're all so fucking talented

He tried to wheel kick them and really more than anything I feel like wrestling being out wrestled and being just trapped on the ground is so psychologically demoralizing when you've been training for a UFC fight and the crowd is out there and the lights are on you and you see the logos on the mat because you're facing it back that up a little

bit let me show you something here too what's what's interesting here before that before the clinch so after he throws the wheel kick like Barbosa is trying to win right this is the third round he's trying to win and he throws this what but look no go before that when he throws the kick here it is so he throws the kick and misses he's so tired now that when Khabib moves for him He clenches look he instigated the clinch instead of pushing away instead of circling to his left He clenched because he's so tired dude. He's so tired and this dude. Just look at that face He just drags him down to the ground again

Two on two on one on that arm underneath them

thrown in. He doesn't know what to do with his legs. He actually just put his foot above Khabib because it's so confusing. All that weight on you, you don't know where to even begin to start getting up.

The first thing he's got to do is get that left leg free and he's not gonna. That was the part before the crawling thing. He was a monster. And retired undefeated.

Yeah. And there's something to being on that mat, not being able to move, knowing that the clock is ticking and this is not how you pictured this going.

Not only that, this is with the current rules where I think there should be no stand-ups. I think the only time there should be a stand-up is when there's a foul. Yeah, I completely agree with you. I hate it when they stand people up. Even if it's boring. I get it's boring, but the guy can't get up and this guy's holding him down. So he's winning. He's winning. See, I know he's not doing enough. What does that mean? He's biding his time. You've got to let a guy have strategy. Like when Muhammad Ali did rope-a-dope against George Foreman, imagine if the referee's like, you've got to punch back. If you don't punch back, no, he's got a strategy. The strategy is let George Foreman burn himself out and then eventually tee off on him, and that's what he did. Yeah. It stinks that referees can let the crowd get in their head. Well, it's the organization wants action, too. The fans want action. A lot of people disagree with me. And I understand their point. I understand their point. Especially if you're a casual, like, it's good. Get them up. Make them fight. They don't want to fight. They want to hug. Boo. Right. So what? So what? This is the sport. And if that guy who's on top, who's biding his time and recovering, then decides, okay, now's the time. Let me start dropping some bombs because I've recovered. Good. Well, he held the position, and he recovered his energy, and now he's winning. Like, let him fucking fight. Let him fight. Get out of there. Get out of there. There shouldn't be stand-ups

And I get it, the referee gets that cheer from the crowd You know, it feels rewarding That said, sometimes when they stand fights up

I get excited I go, yeah The striker has a chance But my position is still the same I don't think they should stand him up I'm worse than that, I think they should start each round Where they lost the last round Oh, I love that, that's great So every round, why do you get to stand up? Why do you get that advantage that a striker gets Of standing up when you didn't earn it? right get back down there yeah get back down there crucifix why'd you have to start the round off in a crucifix yeah that's how the round ended they look at the big screen get a freeze frame of the position referee sets you in the exact position and says ready fight yeah yeah i love that yeah fuck off yeah that's what the sport is supposed to be and sometimes it's going to be boring yeah but that's real though at least it's real because there's been a lot of fights where The guy got taken down in the first round, starts out the second round and blasts the guy and knocks him out. And it's like, okay, it's exciting to watch, but he didn't earn that position. He just got that position because the other guy survived the first round. And so it's like it's one fight. It's not five fights. Right. So I think it should be one continuous fight with a one-minute break in each round.

Yeah, that'd be like if the team losing automatically got the kickoff after halftime or something like that.

Yeah, and look, guaranteed, if I was running the UFC, I would probably go bankrupt. I'm not the right guy. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I'd be a terrible promoter. I'd be too honest about stuff, and I'd want to give people fights that maybe they weren't the most exciting fighters, but they were above the other person in the rankings. I think the rankings should be the whole reason why you make fights.

sammy zane won the universal wwe championship over this weekend at a big pay-per-view

i have no idea who that is but i'm happy for him shocked cody rhodes

who's he was like a guaranteed win wonder what happened rolled him up real quick do you think maybe that was fixed well it was very entertaining very entertaining i'm sure it was i just don't

understand how you go back and forth oh it's the best i know you love it well sometimes that's what

i said about this white house card by the way is like there's nothing that could have happened that they could have written if it was written that would have made it more exciting right it felt real the whole time and the fights that happened before made it feel like anything could happen in that main event like it just felt raw and real but also storyline which then when ufc is at its best like that it's like the wwe that's what's interesting of course it's not as you know

uh exactly but it is it was a special moment you know it was a regardless of how you feel politically and i understand it if you're if you hate the republicans and you hate the whole idea

I get it. But just as a person who loves a sport, it was a very unusual experience, very unusual. And just I think people have to just look at some things that way. You know, some people have a really hard time separating themselves politically because they're going, oh, no, that the White House puts on this thing. There's all this bad press because of the war. There's bad press because of this and that. And they put on this thing at the White House and it's sort of like MAGA washes everything. You know what I mean? Yeah. Makes everybody like them again. Gives them positive press, which, undeniable. Undeniable, it gave them positive press. I mean, the amount of people that have seen it is nuts. You know, I think just on Paramount, it's something like 30-something million now. And, you know, they were telling me that they thought it was probably 150 million people had watched it in some form. Okay. Which was, you know, TikTok clips, Instagram, YouTube. That is a nutty number, man. And I think Dana and Hunter, they were thinking it could get to like a billion people see it, which is just nuts.

Yeah.

In some form, you know, highlight reels, clips. I mean, just the Gaethje fight alone, just the highlight reels. How many people watch those on Instagram and TikTok? Totally. The awareness of the event of the moment was so huge. It was like nothing else. Like, it didn't feel like any other event we'd ever—like, I was nervous before it started. Yeah. Like, I never get nervous for the UFC. I get excited, but I was, like, legitimately nervous. I was like, I was feeling a little like, this is crazy. Like, we're on the White House lawn. Nuts. The flyover is when it really hit. Yeah. Well, when they had all those jets together and they were so close to each other. Yeah. Like, imagine if one of those fucking clips under their wing and spirals right into the ellipse. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. What a spectacle. Yeah. They would have definitely canceled the fights. Because think they canceled the White House Correspondents Dinner because of that assassination attempt. God damn it. You had a bunch of bangers on that I heard. Yeah, so annoying. I was more excited for that than like anything How do they just cancel it? Why didn't they reschedule it? Maybe they're gonna wait until the ballroom's finished Because that's the argument for the ballroom that they could have it at a place like that where it's completely secured Yeah Kurt Massacre thinks the whole thing's fake Oh, no fake assassination attempt. Yeah. How'd that guy get in there? I think some people are just incompetent. There's incompetence. There's bad security. There's people that don't do their job. There's also people that you didn't expect to be a problem and were a problem. And you're in a hotel. Also, the guy made it to the first level of the first scanning of security. It's not like he made it into the thing. But he did shoot somebody, right? i i think he shot one of the secret service agents in his bulletproof vest yeah is that true jamie i think so see there were so many stories online it's so hard to know what was true and what was not but i think the guy was a teacher like a substitute teacher nuts it's all nuts it's like man you didn't think this out and scheduled it for july 24th okay okay the correspondence dinner you might want to polish up some of them bits

yeah it's going to be some new stuff

go back and tag some of them with some current events where are they going to have it

sorry I started

if they have it at the same spot that's not smart

new event held July 24th is that the Pentagon

they might wait they might wait to release that

Yeah, it's not saying. Oh, Waldorf Astoria.

Oh, okay. Well, I guarantee you they'll tighten that bitch up a little bit. Oh, yeah.

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yeah no he was he was very pumped yeah they were bangers i ran them um because the thing happened i happened to be performing at the kennedy center the next that weekend the next weekend so i ran the jokes and i realized that i had adam ray as a special guest that was on before me he brought me on stage so i go you know what even i wrote jokes for the president of the united states to make fun of the press and everybody at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, but I just realized Adam's here. Adam, you want to come out and read these in Trump's voice? And so he was seeing the jokes for the first time and reading them and we had so much fun.

I didn't know he does a Trump, which doesn't surprise me. I mean, his impressions are insane. He can do anything. Yeah, he can do anything.

He was dabbling in a Biden the week that I hit him up to do Trump-Biden, which I think is a fucking god. I think it's like 40 million or seven, some crazy amount. And again, just like the UFC, God only knows after clips. But it was a monumental comedy fucking moment having Shane as Trump. Right before the election. Adam as Biden right before the election, right after their first debate where Biden was clearly fucking zonked and sleepy and just couldn't compete at all. And so I hit up Adam via text. I'm like, do you have a Biden? He's like, I cover it for five seconds in my standup. I'm like, are you free on Monday to fly to Austin and do Biden if I can get Shane as Trump? And I remember telling Shane, I was like, I'm like, this is going to be an interesting ask. But I, you know, I'm just like, hey, Adam's got a Biden. And Shane's like, I have something to do on Monday. I'm canceling it. I'm doing Trump. He immediately saw the brilliance. it was just such a hot topic at the time and my god it was fucking crazy there's clips that i see of that episode and i never re-watch kill tony's or anything i'll see clips sometimes and i literally go oh my god holy fucking shit there's one part where trump goes how many more retards are you gonna bring out here because there have been like two handicapped people on this show all right how many more retards you have come as i'm pulling a name out of the bucket in real time i go anything can happen mr president let's see if what the next guy's like and he comes out and he has like these weird deformed penguin arms and you see shane as trump and the crowd's dying because they see him first and you see shane as trump look and go fuck it's just one of his his react facial reactions to things are like his greatest secret fucking hilarious weapon and when he's trump it's even amplified it's like in my opinion 10 or 20 funnier than even shane is i mean i'm sure he'd admit to this and know it because trump is just such an interesting polarizing character and his take on him is so fucking funny it's psychotic his impression so good it's the greatest trump

impression of all time because it's like the jokes are so good oh by far he's so what's what's

so epic back it up a little bit another fun appearance by true nickens this is the best

all right jody how many more retarded guys do you have back anything can happen this crowd is hungry for more retarded guys frankly i don't think we've seen enough retarded guys how about a retarded racist

would you like to see it this next person could be one i pulled it out of the bucket it is the kill tony debut i do believe of jacob bar everybody jacob bar oh my god thank you well oh my god okay hold on we're gonna reset this jacob what's funny is

is adam knows better than anybody that you're not supposed to say anything after the bucket bowl comes up so me grabbing the mic out of his hand and putting it down is even another layer of hilarious to all of us it's like biden's misbehaving i don't know did you see shane's

face when he notices his hands this is it look and then

he's our jackie gleason oh yeah without a doubt it is plus plus man he's the great one he's some generation what people don't realize i i mean obviously is that he is that funny all the fucking time all the time when we're hanging out in the green room every bar every restaurant every green room every every stairway fucking anywhere everything he i always compare it to mike tyson in his prime he just hits harder and different doing this

smallest little things even if it's a face if somebody says something and he just like reacts

to it it's crazy it's also always fun he's a fun guy like he wants to have fun like even when he's cracking jokes it's fun well i know he was very reluctant to do the roast you know he was a little reluctant to even host that like i don't i don't want to do those things yeah you know but well

everything is you know everything could be something he crushed so hard it caused a real ruckus him and i end capping that thing you know what i mean yeah it was supposed to be a you know this roast of black excellence and me and shane are just fucking having the time of our lives he

got who said it was a roast of black excellence you're just saying that because it was kevin hart well yeah that's that's like that was it wasn't like explicitly stated or anything right i mean because imagine if you said we're gonna have a roast of white excellence Right. Exactly. No, I know. Oh, yeah. It's weird. You can and can't say. Oh, yeah. That's weird.

Oh, yeah.

You know? Yeah.

That's a whole thing with that. I mean, you can't talk about this, but you can talk about that.

Well, it's just weird what we accept, which doesn't bother me at all. But, like, Cain Velasquez, when he fought in the UFC, he used to have brown pride tattooed on his chest. Cool. And his family came over from Mexico. They literally walked here. Yeah. white pride not so popular white pride on your chest you know fucking Sean Strickland just decided to get white pride and he posted a picture on Instagram of him as a world champion with white pride on his chest next to Cain Velasquez as a world champion with brown pride on his chest and people would lose their fucking minds yes and again not saying that Sean would ever put white pride on his chest he would no

No, he would. I follow him. He doesn't have any tattoos. I follow him on Twitter. He would. Trust me. He's a wild boy. He'd get a temporary tattoo.

He showed up at the UFC even though he was banned? He showed up and they arrested him? Yeah. They kicked him out. He's the world champion. There's a UFC event at the White House. At the time, before Justin won, he was the only American world champion. And they're like, you can't come.

Yeah.

Because you talk too much shit about Israel. He's a wild boy. But that's wild that your criticism about Israel is what keeps you from going to the White House as a world champion in a world title fights at the White House.

Yeah.

Like you would think you want to celebrate the American male world champion. I think he said some other stuff too, though. Yeah. Some Epstein stuff there. Yeah. He's a wild boy. Yeah. I think he's. I told him when he retires from fighting, he 100% should do a podcast. And he was like, I, you know, I seen these guys doing these streamers and like, I go, you don't have to do that. You don't have to do it that way. He's like, I couldn't do that. Just sit there every day and talk to people. I was like, I'd lose my fucking mind. I'm like, right. But you don't have to do that. Just your opinions on things. So he's an awesome podcast guest, you know, I'm like, he could totally, totally do that. Just talk about stuff. And also, Sean, when he lets the whole shtick down and just gives you his opinions on things, very smart guy. He's not stupid at all. And he would get better at it, you know, as he did it more. He easily could do a podcast. Yeah, he's entertaining as fuck. I just can't believe they kicked him out of the White House. They kicked him out of the Ellipse, that area. I think there's a video of it. See if you can find the video of it. Sorry, guys. It's like, they got like fucking six cops, a bulletproof vest.

Yeah, I think there was like 85,000 people there. So it's funny that they're like, that one, the champion.

It's just he wasn't supposed to be there. He's banned. He was not invited or whatever. But even if you're not invited, shouldn't you be able to go to the fan area if you're the world champion? If you want to be that wild with no security, and there's video of him from the first night, from the night of the weigh-ins, where they found out that he was there. It's amazing. because he was wearing a hoodie the entire time and someone told him he's got to take off the hoodie and he's like, I can't. Listen. It's going to be a problem. And as soon as he takes off the hoodie, everybody goes, that's fucking Sean Strickland! And then he's just surrounded by bros. Hilarious. Just getting hugged to death. He asked some dude, some dude asked him to leg kick him so Sean leg kicked some kid. Crazy. We're a champion fucking kicking some kid. What is this world coming to? There's started to be some... So here's him. Is there audio? This is crazy. I like that we have some entertaining American people. Oh, he's the most entertaining. That Josh Hockett. Hockett? Hockett. Hockett. Yeah. My God.

That was what was hilarious, was people were so upset that he said Michelle Obama's a man at the White House. It's like, that's what he's doing. He's doing that on purpose. He's literally wearing an American flag bandana. He comes out to a Hulk Hogan song, and he's wearing sunglasses. yeah it's not appropriate you're right yep right but he said the exact same thing when i interviewed him somewhere else yeah he said i'm pretty sure he said michelle obama's a man like last time i

interviewed him that's what i heard is that it's not his first rodeo at the michelle obama's a man

that's how he ends his interviews hilarious he's trying to get people to talk about him yep you The whole thing is so crazy. But all of it would be nothing if he couldn't fight.

Exactly. That's where it's real exciting is the pre-fight stuff. I mean, the post-fight interview, pretty polarizing, obviously, because that was the news. But for the real fans paying attention, you didn't get to see him do that. Did I send it to you, the Kill Tony minute that he did at the press conference? I heard about it. Oh, my God. So funny because he's, like, purposefully bombing. so he's literally doing a joke he says you guys know tony hinchcliffe i'm gonna do my kill tony minute and he's purposefully like bombing it's corny purposeful bad jokes and he's going man tough crowd all right let me let me try this one and it's like literally being hilarious by strategically trying to be funny but not being funny you could tell that he was planning on Nobody laughing, but that it's set up punch and he's just fucking, he's just trying to entertain, which is trolling, which is trolling.

He's getting attention. And then the most important thing he can fight. Yeah. That dude's good. He's fucking good, man. He's fast as shit for a heavyweight. He's very light on his feet. Fast as shit. Fast hands. Yeah. So fun to watch. And you know, what's interesting is he talked a lot of shit about Alex Pereira. And, you know, I want a Shama on your mama or all that crazy shit. Pereira losing to Cyril Gaunt. If Pereira decides to fight again, I don't know if he's going to fight again. He might be done. I think he said he might be done. But, I mean, a lot of fighters say that after a fight and especially after a loss. Yeah. Let them sit around for a while. Then they come up with. He's not done. They back up the Brinks truck. Get him versus Josh Hoke. Oh, my God. As a co-main event on a fucking banging New Year's Eve card. Oh, yeah.

Let's go. Hokut will be making fun of his headdress and his face makeup.

Oh, it would be insane. It would be insane. But, you know, the thing is, Hokut's got to deal with that guy. That's a different guy. That's not Derek Lewis. I mean, if he continues to fight heavyweight. It is interesting watching a guy who's been so dominant at 85 and at 205 with all that extra weight on. I don't know if that necessarily was the right move You know, I mean I think like some weight is probably good But maybe even 20 pounds lighter like maybe 230 something Maybe that would be a better weight if he wants to fight at heavyweight because it seems like he was carrying I mean just you ever work out with a weight vest on yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, like a 25 pound weight vest It's nuts how much harder everything is so you got to realize he had fought at 185 and he fought at 205 that was what he weighed in at but let's be honest at 185 i think he probably weighed 220 something 226 i think it was fight night which is nuts it's 40 pounds difference and at 205 he probably got into the 230s like 235 236 something like that but still was not didn't look like he looked at 251 251 he looked like he was carrying unnecessary weight a little bit of it at least and if he was just like 20 pounds lighter he would still have that speed and movement but he's always had crazy knockout power it might be a better weight for it just seemed like it was a lot of weight he had on him you know and it all went to

his ass his ass was giant fat ass big fat ass you know me you know that's all i'm looking at that's why i watch ufc and uh yeah it was all there it's like a backpack well that's where

all the power comes from you know when you're pushing off your feet and you know you're pushing off those fucking quads and pushing into those glutes and then torquing that body the way he does ferocious power dude but damn that cyril gone's good whoo yeah whoo yeah he's so good dude and He's in his prime right now. Cyril Ghosn is really coming into his own. There's no heavyweight like him. No one moves like him. Yeah, I was going to say extremely accurate. for a heavyweight not just accurate agile because we were talking about this the other day that basketball is a great place to start if you're a big athlete and you want to learn combat sports especially striking because think about how many direction changes basketball players take where they're always kind of doing that they're always spinning and moving it's a series of plyometrics it's a series of hops and jumps like jordan's jump the imagine of jordan had a flying knee you know right right yeah he's hit you with a flying knee from 14 feet away yeah what do you got what's that it's interesting because uh oh serial guns are yeah so he started out playing

basketball at least where i come from basketball season and foot uh wrestling season are at the same time so i wonder what he was doing back then well he's in france right so france does not have

wrestling in their high school or in their college you know and he learned wrestling after he had become a really elite world-class Muay Thai fighter so he's got the grappling has come up in big ways like his grappling is much better than it used to be but really primarily he's a striker and when John fought him like John just got him to the ground and submitted him like quickly it's like the different I think in that fight was kind of a big-ass wake-up call And Francis beat him too So Francis beat him by just Francis just got a hold of him And most of the fight was on the ground A giant chunk of it Because Francis fought that fight with a blown out ACL Wow Defended his world title with a blown out ACL Crazy Had big ass knee pads on I know, wobbly ass knee But that's how dangerous Francis is He could just win it with grappling It's a shame that he's not in the UFC It's a real shame Yeah, it's like That whole thing was what drove everyone crazy about boxing, you know, that it was really hard to get these guys together you know, and this was the whole idea why everybody was excited about what Riyadh season was doing and Turkey I'll shake and you know all those people that put together these big-ass fights like Tyson Fury and Alexander Oosik and the last one they just did Rico Verhoeven and Oosik like they're putting together these big crazy fights Like that was the thing that drove everybody nuts about boxing and that's what drives everybody nuts about MMA The one thing is it's the heavyweight division The fact that the best heavyweight or at least the guy who was the lineal heavyweight champion in the world Isn't even fighting for the UFC. That's crazy

It's crazy. Yeah, who knows maybe one day, right? Nope. No, I don't think so. I tried to make it happen

Damn, I think we need to get those dudes together. Look at that. Look at Cyril gone Duncan That's crazy. I know see that kind of ability to throw your body around like that is so huge as a striker Because a lot of those guys are plotting, you know, they're plotters. They just kind of like wobble through I think what they need to do is get Francis and the UFC together. They all do mushrooms. Yeah, just like make friends Yeah, because he doesn't have much time left. I think Francis is 38. Is that how old he is? I

I

Think he's 38 which is different as a heavyweight heavyweights have in terms of 40 in September. Whoa Not much time left right 40 you can do but unless you're Bernard Hopkins fighting at a world-class level in your 40s kind of unheard of Remember when France when Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik a lot of people did not think that he had a chance

Oh, yeah, I remember it very clearly.

And he outboxed the fuck out of Kelly Pavlik.

He looks so good. Truly the executioner.

I want to say he was in his 40s when that happened. I think so. How old was Bernard Hopkins when he fought Kelly Pavlik? He fought at a world-class level until he's 50 years old.

Yeah. Nuts. Yeah. Nuts. We were all watching that one, everybody from Youngstown going, all right, this is it. We're going to get back on the right path because it was after his loss to Margarita. Is that right? It was the guy that got caught with the cement in his gloves against the one guy, Antonio Margarita. I do believe you. 43.

Wow.

He was 43 years old.

Wow. Crazy. Against a 26-year-old. Crazy. Especially at 170 pounds. Like, nobody thinks at that weight that you can be competitive at a world-class level into your 40s. Most of the time, like, people just write you off on that number. They don't even care what you look like. Like, he's not going to be able to do it.

Was he the first one to beat Kelly? Is that what I just saw? Wow. Okay. So he lost to him, and that's where shit started to get fucked up. Because then he went on a bad run after that.

Well, when you got beat up like that, it's just tough on the brain, dude. There's only so many of them fights that you could take.

where you get really beat up like that, Bernard put it on him. You know, there's been a bunch of fights where a fighter got beat up really badly and then they were never the same again. Meldrick Taylor versus Julio Cesar Chavez, that's a great example. Chavez just put it on him and dropped him in the final moments of the round and then Richard Steele stopped it and it was like this crazy fucking controversy because he stopped the fight with like one second to go in a fight that Meldrick was ahead on the scorecards. But the real story of that fight was that the damage that Chavez had put on Meldrick, Meldrick was never the same again. And Pavlik actually won his next two fights and then had a bad staph infection problem. Oh, wow. So after he beat Sergio, so he was set to fight Paul Williams to a major staph infection and allergic reaction to some antibiotics nearly killed him. Whoa. So he eventually was able to fight again against light middleweight champion Sergio Martinez.

Oh, Sergio Martinez. He beat him.

Martinez beat him. Martinez beat him. But, yeah, unanimous 12-round decision. Sergio Martinez was a bad motherfucker, too. Yes, he was. Yeah. In late rounds, Martinez came up. It's just a crazy sport, man. You only have so many wars in you. There's only so many times you could do that. And the really clever guys are the guys who just don't get hit much.

I went down a Madonna rabbit hole recently. Oh, my God. That fucking guy's a freak. Oh, he's an animal. What a career. He was an animal. Unbelievable. He fought everybody. He was one of the few guys to really rock Floyd Mayweather. Yeah. Knocked his tooth out.

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tooth around a chain oh i love that yeah he he got floyd's tooth and wore it as a piece of see if you can find the tooth that my donna had of floyd look at that oh my god that is so cool

how hilarious is that that's so funny he had his tooth put on a fucking he wears floyd's tooth on

a necklace wow that's crazy boy what a square jawed motherfucker that guy is huh yeah look at that jaw that guy looks like he could hit him with a baseball bat he was a tough dude insane career i think he fought everybody the broner fight too he dropped broner that was when broner was in his prime you know he was a beast it's a it's a hard ass fucking sport any combat sport that is a hard way to make a living profitable do you see all the stuff that's going on with floyd

yeah i i can't wrap my head around it i don't understand how someone makes that much money and

doesn't pay taxes or whatever yeah well i could tell you how you run out of money yeah you know you you spend so much money on things you don't do you think he has a business manager

maybe he wasn't looking out for his best interest i mean just you gotta put somebody in charge of That amount of money. You would think. You would think $750 million would last you a while. Yeah. I mean, he's not even 50. You give one guy 5%.

How old is Floyd now?

I mean.

Yeah, put some away. But the thing is, it's like that lifestyle. His lifestyle was all about showing you his wealth. His lifestyle. He's 49. Imagine making $750 million and you're 49, you're broke. Oh, God. That's crazy, but Tyson talks openly about how he spent hundreds of millions of dollars just went through it You know if you're living that life where you're just wearing diamonds everywhere and you're buying crazy watches And you know Floyd does these things you're seeing way He'll go into a hotel room when he's traveling and he talks about like the watches that he brought and so he opens up suitcases with millions of dollars

and watches just open suitcase you ever seen these no find them because they're kind of hilarious

he's just trying to figure out which one he wants

to wear he brings them all with him yeah it's just showing off and you're showing off that he's got two suitcases filled with diamond encrusted patek patek philippe's and you know the most high end of watches look at this do you have the clip here it is let me put some volume on this look at this

I'm always in my fucking business Worried about what I'm doing What Floyd is doing, what Floyd ain't doing What I do got, what I don't got Just know, I'm gonna stay in my lane I ain't gonna fuck with nobody And I don't want nobody fucking with me If I go on vacation, my fault When I go on vacation For 30 days, I take 30 watches with me

Look at this dude

But you know what, you know what What's crazy is this If we add 10 more days I'd take 10 more watches But then I say fuck it If I want to bring out the one and only Then I bring out the watch that costs 18 million

Oh Jesus

Matter of fact you know what I'm going to do For you motherfucking haters today I'm going to go fuck off $50,000 because I ain't got shit else to do Money made All motherfucking day

You know what's crazy That's the problem So that you can only do for so long Yeah. So if you have one $18 million watch, like, okay, let's not get crazy. Let's not get crazy. You wanted to get it. You got it. You have $750 million. You have one $18 million watch. You can't have 18 watches that cost millions of dollars because you're going to need more. You're going to keep wanting to buy more. You're going to run out of money. How many Rolls Royces do you have? Okay, each one of those is a half a million dollars. You have four or five of them. Hmm. How many Ferraris? You got 10 Ferraris. Okay. What? Some of those Ferraris are almost a million dollars. You have 10, almost a million dollar cars. Okay. So just in watches and cars alone, we're looking at 50, 60 million. Okay. And then you have to make 120 plus to actually have 60. I don't know if he's leasing them. I don't know how he's financing things. I don't know.

but i just love to know the reality that money back by he can make the money that he needs back by literally making a super documentary about how he spent it you ever seen that 30 for 30 broke about how the nfl players all spent their money no well it's unbelievable one of the easiest watches ever and like it it's i it's got to be 30 for 30s like biggest production ever like it's everywhere It's just huge. And, yeah, who the hell doesn't want to know about that?

Right.

And I'm waiting on that Nicolas Cage doc that probably nobody's making either, where it's like, because he's a different version of that. He is? You know about this.

He went broke? Oh, yeah. But then he made it back again.

Well, yeah, he works his ass off. So he went on a, he's on a terror. He's just making movies left and right. And, yeah. Going from 100%.

He faced severe financial struggles in the late 2000s, going from $150 million fortune to being $6 million in debt. Whoa. He never officially filed for bankruptcy, but he cleared his debts by relentlessly taking on movie roles, including direct-to-video films and selling off extensive real estate and assets.

I guess he bought, like, a lot of T-Rex skulls. Like, he spent his money on, like, crazy things. He didn't just go watches in cars. he would find crazy pieces of art and like old historical things i think well he was a movie star

from way back you got to realize like what was his first film i think his first film was like 1980 or something yeah i remember him being a movie star when i was in high school yeah that's a lot of time of being in that bizarro hollywood bubble getting your brain cooked by fame yeah

He's one of those, you can watch him do anythings, like one of those freaks where even though people will say, I don't like this Nicolas Cage thing, I don't like that.

From an article about what he spent his money on. $455,000 for two snakes. Okay, so it was $276,000 in 2005, the equivalent of $455,000 today. Thanks, inflation. How crazy is that? Think about that $275,000 in 2005 Is $455,000 today Damn How fun is inflation?

Wow

What was Nicolas Cage's first movie? Officially? Yeah He was in a few things like unofficially Just that crazy movie with him and Raising Arizona had to be like the first big hit

that was a big one that was a big one his new ones are good too these wacky filmography if you go all the way back 1982 fast times at Ridgemont High is Nicholas Coppola Valley Girls what I was thinking of that was in 83 yeah credit is Nicholas Coppola that's before he changed his name because he didn't want to be connected to was his uncle Francis Ford Coppola so it is Valley Girl so The Valley Girl was 83, so I was in high school, dude. Raising Arizona, Peggy Sue got married. Those were big, too. Big. Those were huge movies, dude. Raising Arizona is so fucking funny. I saw that like a year ago. I forgot how funny it was. Remember Tex Cobb was in there? The boxer with the flat nose who fought Larry Holmes? He did a bunch of movies. The big white guy? Yeah, big fucking corn-fed white guy. On the motorcycle? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's great. It's a Coen Brothers movie, right? Raising Arizona is Those guys might be the goats They might be the goats of comedy Them and the Farrelly brothers

Yep

No doubt How many amazing Hilarious fucking movies And the Coen brothers They were always so out there Everything's so out there Some of their films Are just like What the fuck Are you guys doing Yeah Like King Was Kingpin Farrelly brothers Yes Those guys too Without a doubt Fuck that was good Unbelievable Fuck that's a funny movie So fucking great It's crazy So funny The scene where he's throwing up in the toilet when she's talking about him eating her pussy to pay his rent. Oh, my God.

Woody's range is incredible.

You know what I heard about that movie? That they had primed all the actors to get really excited when Bill Murray throws three strikes because he had to throw three strikes in a row. And so they said, this might take a while, so we're going to really need your enthusiasm. and then bill murray actually threw three strikes in a row first attempt and everybody went crazy like for real because they were you know like they were said this is not going to happen this way so when he actually did it everybody went fucking bananas nuts fuck such a good movie i

love it dude woody's a freak bro since he's moved here and goes to kill tony and like we hang out and stuff only after like being making friends with him like i knew he did a lot of great stuff but he sneaks up in so many great things it's insane he's in fucking um what is the cone brothers one with uh not there will be blood it was made at the same time with javier bardem oh my god how am i blanking on this it's uh no country for old men oh that's right he's in it and he's not even They don't even, like, promote him on that or anything. He just comes in the movie halfway through with all these other fucking greats and is crushing. It's hard to think that that's the Coen brothers, probably. The People versus Larry Flint. He's a freak of nature.

Well, that thing that you sent me the other day with him when he was playing LBJ. Oh, my God.

It's so good. I randomly stumbled across that one. I'm like, oh, I'll fall asleep to this. Woody is LBJ, and it's one of those movies that fucking kept me awake because it was so goddamn good mesmerizing super nice guy too like easy to hang out with

oh my god the best very chill with everybody just hangs out when he's in the green room just like one of us yeah normal yeah you know it's just hard to do and you've been famous that long just be cool yeah but also he doesn't have a phone you get a hold of him you got to get go through his wife to get a hold of him he's smart just insulates him from himself from all the nonsense brilliant it's the way to do it yeah but i think when you get to like that level you kind

of have to or you'll go crazy yeah you know yeah he has this fun he likes laughing sipping his tequila smoking his weed he's got it all figured out grows his own weed makes his own tequila eats live food or whatever and just laughs and enjoys life it's perfect yeah it's nice to know

that people can make it through that crazy maze and you know you could either go nuts and buy tyrannosaurus rex skulls or you could just completely disconnect from it all and just be yourself just just keep keep killing it i know him and mcconaughey have a tv show that's coming

out where they play brothers right yeah i think it's on apple tv coming out soon yeah

yeah so um what's it been like like the the weirdness the post roast weirdness

i'm always surprised by these things i'm always surprised that they last so long that anybody's talking about it it's so bizarre i was surprised with

at the Pang Dang thing. I was surprised at the Trump thing. And this one is really surprising because with other ones, they're like, ah, there's a time and a place for jokes like that or this or that or whatever. And this is the time and the place for it is like the roast of Kevin Hart. You know, I'm going to go for it. Yeah. And we roasted Kevin. You know, I did a fucking George Floyd joke in the, uh, at the Tom Brady roast. and i did a who's the white guy that shot people um uh it's the same fan base as uh god damn it the kid that shot people up in wherever the white guy shot a couple people had a gun at a thing they made it look like it was black people but it was actually white people that he shot that were shooting at him or had guns what's his name has the i have no idea who you're talking about david lucas's friends with them brought him to the club oh kyle rittenhouse that's it that's it oh i did a kyle rittenhouse joke i did this and then this one people are offended or something i don't know and yeah if you just watch that clip on my dismount it's a crazy clip but if you watch the entire flow of the roast set it's just one last departing joke which that's my thing man it's like i knew earthquake would be standing up on his feet like he was halfway through my set you know you know there's standing o's that are happening during my actual roast and on this one because there were so many people on it it was such a long big roast you know they set you to an allotted time so I'm like okay I'm gonna do something I don't normally do and blast off more jokes per minute than I normally do instead of milking it and getting applause breaks and things like that I'm just gonna create a bang bang bang bang, bang, final stand of things. And you know, what's funny is that I have something that's supposed to offend everybody. Like, I don't want you to like 100% of any of my jokes. I'm not that guy. I'm heelish. I'm a bad guy wrestling fan. Exactly. So what's funny is people got offended about the George Floyd thing and people, a lot of people said, yeah, well, Pete Davidson did a charlie kirk joke and they're comparing these things from two different spectrums but what what they didn't mention is that i did a charlie kirk joke in my set so fuck them fuck them fuck them fuck them you know what everybody gets them everybody gets it is always everybody gets some jokes everybody does i said that kevin has uh what quite the fan base he has more gunfire at merch table than Charlie Kirk yeah or whatever and So, you know for them didn't for people to nitpick that joke and be offended and it's funny because it was a lot of A lot of comedians a lot of black

Comedians were like I'm upset about this. You know, they made their videos, which is Just hilarious because they're not on the roast. They're not in attendance at the roast. You saw Tiffany Haddish

That was the best one. Nobody handled it better than her find Tiffany Haddish getting asked questions It was at a TMZ thing yeah About the roast cuz she handled it so perfectly trying to they were trying to

Everybody of course they were everybody even Cheryl Underwood who handled it all like a champ. We made friends before At a Netflix brunch that week. That was for that festival

Well, dude, I told you about Cheryl.

Yeah, she's the shit.

She's awesome. I worked with Cheryl in like the early 2000s, I think it was, in Montreal. I told you, she's a monster.

Yeah.

She'd go on stage with her purse on, just clutching her purse on stage and murdered. Oh, yeah. Here, listen to Tiffany.

Oh, she's ready. Molly, you look so good. Do you have like 30 seconds to chat really quick? Yeah. So talking about Kevin Hart roast, right? Yes, it was so much fun. So Lonnie Love, they didn't think so. Lonnie Love was like, you know what, it's exhausting, it's edgy. Specifically about the George Floyd joke, what are you thinking? Is it just comedy? Should they have been a little less? I think it should have been shorter. The show was too long. I mean, I was sitting there the whole time. I had to pee. I didn't hear the George Floyd joke because I had to pee so bad. So you went to the bathroom with that? Yeah, I was a glorified seat filler, and I was tired. Well, also, I mean, Lonnie and other people were like, oh maybe it was a little too racially motivated what do you think as far as like the jokes is this just comedy or are people taking it too seriously is this our comedian saying it that

wasn't invited that's the fucking comedian tiffany haddish bro that was her version of

the sean o'malley walk-off i love it Bye.

love it man you never forget those people that actually are answering honestly and real well real comics and again it's the same thing for 100 she's not only is it a fun walk-off home run but she's also 100 correct there's nobody that was there that was offended there was no ruckus there it's just like everything else where you leave and you go huh this thing's this thing's kind of crazily taking off it seems a lot of people are talking about that one joke at the end

it's so weird we live in an outrage culture and an outrage there's a there's money in outrage there's engagement in outrage outrage is the it's the commodity that everybody wants yeah they want to be outraged yeah and they want to be right and if you're outraged and you've got a good point you just ride that fucking thing for as much juice as you can get out of it and then you move on to

the next thing yep what are you mad at now it you know there's never in any of these things there's never a moment where i'm like okay this could cause a problem it was it's never been that way wild it was high fives yeah high fives and laughter after my 3 p.m set in a half-filled madison square garden waiting for the 8 p.m arrival of trump to speak i'm you know on a 34 four person lineup everyone was thrilled way to get the crowd going i mean they're just getting the party started the lights were up like it obviously wasn't the best position for me on that lineup but the same exact thing and then it's like a little bit later you realize like oh they're making a news story about the puerto rico joke about things so interesting i told you

that joke was gonna be a problem i would have never told you to do that joke during that but

I told you that was going to be a problem in your ass. It wasn't supposed to be in my original thing for that. It was a last-second filler because they gave me more time than everybody. It was a very bizarre thing. They gave me more time for every bizarre thing.

First of all, the idea that you would go on after someone. Like, who went on before you? Stephen Miller?

No, not even. Who was it? It was the National Anthem with a guy painting a thing. Actually, no. He went on after me. I went on right after the National Anthem.

But someone had some kind of a rah-rah speech.

make america great again i wish i wish there was that all came like way after which is crazy they just had me on the wrong position on the thing

and uh you should only do stand-up oh where people are doing stand-up totally

totally it doesn't work totally it's like but you gotta say but then again it did it did work in-house the place isn't miked for i'm sure stand-up comedy or lit for stand-up or anything like it no they were laughing they were having a

Good old time. Well, they're probably happy that something wasn't stiff and boring taxes and fucking right

Tariffs I mean Rudy Giuliani went on like three hours after me. That's crazy. Yeah, it was a nuts all day It was a super long thing. My point being is that it always surprises me that I'm the news Even though I'm because if someone else said it if it was a politician that did it or someone else someone high up in the administration that would make sense same thing with the roast if it was a clean comedian right if Nate Bargatze or Jim Gaffigan were on it and they said that that's crazy me saying it that's normal they don't know that though see the thing is it's like you've

achieved a level of fame that like really snuck up on people over the last couple years you know is because the rise of Kill Tony has been completely organic. Like, there's been no promotion of Kill Tony that made it become what it is. It's all just people sharing it on YouTube, sharing it online. That's all it is, clips and these moments, you know. And then, you know, obviously the Shane moments and all the Kyle Dunnigan. It's been just so many amazing moments. It's such a good show. It came organically. and then you got to this point over the last couple years like oh we got to pay attention this fucking guy and then we had us and then after they started attacking you from the white house thing or the uh madison square garden thing rather which is 2024 then it was on then it's on like donkey kong right so that's two years later so now you're a guy that they go to like to get mad at and there's a bunch of people like that online that that's their business their business is people are mad at them they have hot takes people are mad at them yeah i mean that's so you're you've fallen into that category and so there's going to be people that genuinely don't like what you did and don't like you and then there's going to be people that are just using it as a commodity they're just using it as outrage which is part of what the game is you know this this is what they do and their engagement you know fucking game that they play and it's kind of what we do in the joke game yeah you know you get engagement you get people to laugh they you say outrageous things.

That you don't even really mean but this because it's a funny thing to say it's just like I always say Bob Marley didn't really shoot the sheriff You know that right right? It's like just jokes like when you say inappropriate shit on purpose And that is like everybody used to know that like Louis C.K. was a very left-wing progressive guy When he was saying really fucked up things that he didn't mean on purpose because they were funny Yeah, like that was what he did and everybody was fine with it until somewhere around it seems like it was like 2016 2000 like it started to turn a corner where it became like people are starting to take these things as statements rather than as comedy material and they started trying to pretend that the person really means this like that's where it got crazy and that happened around the time where social media really came into prominence because before that there was no real avenue to do that there's no real avenue to pretend you were really deeply upset yeah i mean i'm sure there's some people that were upset but there's also a lot of like people that are just ill they're online all the time on these social media apps just arguing and spitting out venom and yelling at people and they yell at them it's like they're in hell all day long and anytime something comes along they could be upset at they gotta they have to have their take they have to have that hot take yeah and if their hot take gets engagement they're all looking at their likes and they just start re-engaging with that subject and going back on it and this is the real problem okay good luck with that that's bad for your head kid right exactly very bad for your head all those people that i know that are like especially comics that are doing it the comics that are doing it almost all of them don't have good careers but no all of them right none of them have like impressive career especially compared to their contemporaries that are doing well and then on top of it they're all mentally ill they're all people that are fucking filled up with pharmaceuticals and they're going to therapy they're literally mentally ill and they're online they're talking about fascists right you know like stop like get your shit together no one your opinion is not that valuable to people because they know that you're fucked up do you not understand that right like the way you view the world is it's not a healthy balanced perspective like you're viewing the world in

this like mentally ill lens well the whole online thing doesn't it doesn't even convert to sold tickets or a bigger thing it's such a temporary drug for them to get to fill this void of what

they're not doing right it doesn't convert to them people wanting to go see them no i mean some people maybe they get like a little juice out of it but it's not enough because you're also opening the door if you do become popular you have to understand that if you've been spitting hate at people for a decade and then you become popular boy that hate's coming your way oh yeah it's coming your way you know and i mean this is one of the things that i said after the mencia stuff i said even though i think it was the right thing to do i wouldn't do it again because it's just too much yeah it's just too much you just you create all you just feel the darkness of it all the negative it's all negative it's all negative even though it had to be done because you've got this guy that with it it showed me how completely absent of morals and ethics the business is completely absent right they knew what he was doing and they did not care they didn't care because they were profiting from it this is the conversation that i had with my agent when they were dumping me i said i told them i go you're making a mistake right now that's going to affect the rest of your life you have to understand the choice that you're making you're choosing to align with someone who in any other industry that person would be in jail right if that person was and also if this was in literature or if this was in music they would be sued into high heaven like there's songs that like they don't even seem like they're that close to each other and people had to give like songwriting credits to it yeah oh yeah like songs like people get inspired by certain songs and then they write a song that sounds close enough that

there's a rhythm to it that people get upset well there's only so many notes and so many chords and there's only so many beats and so much timing and it's often the same thing with comedy like there's some crossovers in a writer's room which i've been in so many of so many people writing on the same subject will have the same joke uh it's only when it's like what mencia was doing word

for word long form well that was a different thing what he's he was a buccaneer that was a totally different thing but there's songs like okay so i was listening to this video the other day or watching this video the other day rather that was comparing um radiohead's creep to an older song and they

had to give Creep Radiohead rather had to give this older song writing credits for this which sounds so different and then Radiohead accused Lana Del Rey or someone from their organization accused Lana Del Rey of having a song that ripped off Creep or was sounded too much like Creep and it did sound a little like Creep but it was very different like it should be obviously this is like inspired by it right if that's the like elvis presley's entire career was inspired by black musicians like isn't like the way he danced and moved and the way he sang so it's like what are we doing like they're stealing and then there's inspired by inspired by is what we were all doing it's like we were talking about that computer earlier that chip manufacturing thing that thing was built on the back of all the fucking super wizard geniuses that have been working on all the different technology that led to that being you can't just invent that in a vacuum you have to invent that on all these other inventions that have taken place for decades before you right this is this it's like with music it's interesting how litigious they are maybe it's because they're run by a certain group of people told me but they're so good at like suing people like uh bittersweet symphony you remember that song yeah totally they had a they had to give all their money to the stones yep because it was uh what song uh it's um let's ask perplexity while tony is or while jamie rather is oh i can't do that that's right you can't oh we have to do

get us do it i know it's a 1965 song called the last time if if i mean we learned this the hard way because i have an actual band that can play anything and everything and years ago they could play anything and everything our old episodes hold um because you know i'd literally be to a you know a shy person i'd be like what do you you know you ever do karaoke they're like yes i'd go what song do you sing and then they go they go da da da and i literally they would go right into

it and now you can't hum a song for a few seconds so bittersweet symphony was a sample from uh the The Verve developed Bittersweet Symphony from a sample from a 1965 version of Rolling Stones' song, The Last Time, adding vocals, strings, guitar, and percussion. After a lawsuit by the Rolling Stones' former manager, Alan Klein, the Verve relinquished all royalties to the Rolling Stones' members, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, who were also added to the songwriting credits. Wow. 2019, 10 years after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards, and Klein's sons ceded the rights to the Verve songwriter Richard Ashcroft because he was probably broke.

There's similar things that have happened recently with, I think, Olivia Rodrigo and Paramore and then, like, Puff Daddy.

Yeah. Can you please look up the other one that I set up, though, which was Radiohead, Creep, Lana Del Rey. And Radiohead Creep had to give songwriting credits to another band. The Hollies. The Hollies, that's right. What was the original song? The Air That I Breathe. It's interesting. Let's listen to them. See if you can find that there's a comparison video that I watched on YouTube. See if you can find that. Because it's interesting how they say the first one, and you're like, jeez, I don't see it. We'll have to edit this out, ladies and gentlemen. But you can find it yourself. Radiohead's Creep versus Lana Del Rey's Get Free versus The Hollies. the air that i breathe yeah that was a live version of it but if you uh hear the recorded version of it's even more you could see but people get inspired by things i get it though i get it in those cases especially like the beginning of the holly song and then the beginning

of radiohead like i'm sort of dead on yeah they're set in a mood like a very specific mood have you ever seen how the guy from here's a crazy one the guy from the gorillas the song clint eastwood i think it is he had a like one of those like little kids kind of keyboards and he hit the demo button because like oftentimes it'll just have a regular song or whatever and um it's the entire backbone of their biggest hit um you'd have to you'd have to pull it up i guess to understand but it's that yeah there it is so that's just on the thing wow and somehow they got

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there it's just yeah that's the preset it's the rock one preset that's so crazy they use that they used a preset from one of them little machines like a toy

and much like the fucking crazy jokes that end up getting me in trouble i bet they don't even think that's gonna be the hit you know what i mean like they're probably not like this is the

song that's gonna fly off the shelves yeah but other people see it tony i was the one who told

you you're gonna get stabbed for the puerto rican joke there was that was so many years later it's crazy i was doing that joke during the pandemic to the point to where it got extended to where you were part of it and what's funny is i left those tags of the longer joke out of the trump rally one which probably would have protected me it probably would have saved it going ah it's gonna get me stabbed whatever you know what i mean then you would have to do the amy schubert Well, yeah, there was a lot to it. Yeah People don't realize that that's a giant bit of a munch much bigger chunk at the time

Well, that's why it should be in a set. Yeah, you know of comedy is Such a weird art form. I mean look I love it to death, but real comedy should be seen in person Oh, yeah, you know Stanhope said this once like it was like everything we do on TV is just to try to get people to come see us in the clubs Exactly. That's really what it is It's like you just really want people to go there live because that's the real fun Yeah, the real fun is all us a bunch of human beings fucking around and having a good time right as soon as you start taking it seriously and making it something that it's not like you're I Get why you're doing it because that has become a thing that people do today But I'm just saying like for your own mental health Just not it's not good for you to be engaging like I was saying about the Carlos thing like just engaging in conflict It's not good. It's not good for you. It's bad for you. Yeah feels bad. It's not good It's not it's you. This is Nate. There's negative energy and positive energy You should spend as much of your time possible on things that make positive energy I know it sounds hippie and because I'm a little bit of hippie I got a lot of hippie in me, but that's what I believe I believe you should spend as much of your time having fun Making people laugh having a good time and less about dwelling on shit. Yeah That's why I try to stay off Twitter because when I get on I just start freaking out at all the different news stories that are just abomination after abomination where you're just so angry it's just

impossible now and and you know it used to be twitter was twitter and this and that but really it's just the news x is the news it is so hard to absorb that it it was fun and you know it's cool and all and my algorithm still shows me stuff that i love police chases gone wrong and and ufc highlights and all of this stuff but all the stuff around that is just crazy i did a thing because i was staying at a hotel in um in uh dc right after the state of the union or something anyway i'm like okay it's a hotel tv i never get to watch regular tv i'm gonna be asleep in a few minutes anyway so i threw on um i ended up going by cnn i'm like let's see what these wackos are saying over here let's see how fake the news can possibly be because from what i understand the most recent state of the union was a solid state of the union and very positive and long and entertaining let's see what they say oh racism this he caused the deaths of black people here he's the reason why we why america's failing it's the reason why we're the laughing stock of the country it made me so stressed out and i'm like okay well let's see what fox news is saying and it was crazy over there and then you have what do they say uh well they had their counterpoint person on unlike cnn where they're just all in agreeance yeah yeah and going by six people literally going yeah he's the worst and let's not forget that he doesn't think trans people deserve this and this and like they're just going on and on about straight dude

And Fox News had a counterpoint person that was stressing me out. I swear to God, I'm not kidding. This is not a joke. I was flipping through the different channels. I go by MSNBC. I'm like, oh, my God, this is crazy. I put on Silence of the Lambs. To calm yourself down. I swear to God, I was asleep five minutes later. And I ended up just coincidentally was on the Buffalo Bill part where, like, he's got a girl in a well. lotion in the basket pure darkness and i'm like oh finally some peace on the cable television

i never get to just watch normal tv so did fox news have a positive spin on the state of the

union address i did not watch it i remember for some reason it was stressing me out whatever was going on because like they had they at least fox has they'll argue still like the news used to be They'll have both sides on and kind of talk it out. And CNN has that poor guy, that poor one guy that just takes all the bullets for everybody. He's just going, you're lying. That stat doesn't exist. Scott Jennings. Yes. Yeah. That poor guy, he probably has months to live. He takes so many bullets every day. He's a fucking war hero out there.

It's a very turbulent world when it comes to discourse. it's just everybody's mad at everybody else it's really weird to watch it's really weird to watch these these shows on cnn now that are basically like bad podcasts that get interrupted every five minutes for a commercial it's really what it's like i just don't i don't remember it being that way where it's just so many panel opinion shows i remember it was it was like cnn used to have bourdain's show on yep you know where they would travel around the country and check out or travel around the world and check out food and it was interesting yep and he would you know give you his perspective on the cultures and all the the problems and the things that these people were facing their food and what the community was like fucking great show they did a bunch of different shows that were different you know and then somewhere along the line man they just went all outrage yeah and i don't think that's going to get any different now i mean now it looks like Barry Weiss is going to be running that as well. So she's running the CBS News, and perhaps she's going to be running CNN. The same company is going to be running CNN. It's like, okay. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck. Because people already don't want to listen. They don't want to take it seriously. Yeah. And that's why X has become the news. The reason why it's become the news is because they can't trust the news. Right. You know? Totally. It's crazy over there. Tim Dillon had these two New York Times reporters on his podcast. And I listened to him talking about it I hadn't listened to them on the podcast But I listened to him talking about it And he was saying that they said There's no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was intelligence And I was like, what? What? There's no evidence Watch one Mike Benz episode of my podcast Where he breaks it down It's almost impossible that he's not Like what the fuck are you Like no evidence? No, that's not true There's just evidence that you're not considering so it's like if the new york times and the people that we're always supposed to trust to be the objective purveyors of all that's going on in the world if they're compromised so they're not allowed to say things or they have narratives that they could they're supposed to spin one way or another or they're very cautious about being honest about their opinion very very shielded about their actual opinions either either one of those is not good or if they actually believe that that's not could either because that means you're not really paying attention objectively like watch a mike benz episode where he breaks down epstein's connections it's nuts the whole thing's nuts it's crazy that anybody could say that he wasn't intelligence yeah there's no doubt about it but

they will do anything to push their own story they don't yeah it's it's a propaganda network

yeah and whatever that propaganda is i mean that propaganda will shift depending upon who's in control the realm of the of the reigns rather the realm really is a realm realm of nonsense well whoever's in control they're going to be the ones that dictate how the narrative goes and it's always going to be whatever the sponsors are that's why you never hear anything about any of these studies that they're showing about the vaccine safety signals that they found very early on how they hit it all this fauci stuff they're they're not showing any of that the tulsi gabbard speech we talked about that where you know she gave this speech explaining how he lied to congress and fauci pressured these other scientists to change their perspective on whether or not it

was gain-of-function research and yeah the shit that we had a pretty big feeling about back in

2020 yeah you don't hear any of these people they're not covering it yeah and they can't because they can't really tell you the whole news they can only tell you the news they're proved to tell you. That's not good.

that's how x comes about yeah that's how x becomes the place where everybody trusts but then you go to x and it's just filled with horseshit there's so much lies there's always video of something happening and they're saying this is going on right now and you're like and then someone says no this is a video from 2022 right this is in you know this part of the world this is ai this is china this is not israel this is you know it's like there's so much horseshit and there's so many bots yeah it's like you just dip your toe into the water and you just feel poisoned like i gotta get out of here yeah but then you feel irresponsible for not paying attention exactly

you know i feel like so many people feel like they're doing the right thing watching the news and being informed and they hear that the news is fake and they think that's just like a trump talking point i've always said that trump calling it fake news was like one of the worst things that could happen because then it sounds like a trump thing and the trump enemies go oh fake news sure it's fake if he's saying it then it can't be fake because we have to disagree with him meanwhile it's a fucking it's a goddamn production i mean it is fake and they're right

it's fake yeah it's fake there's a lot of the news is fake it's not true all that i mean the fact that no one got in trouble for all that russia gate stuff crazy absolutely crazy and And that the same people that were pushing that Russiagate shit, they're still giving opinions on TV? Right. It's nuts. Yeah.

There's no repercussions to be found. They get to say whatever they want. It's crazy.

Well, the repercussion is no one takes them seriously. And that's real. They've suffered that. I mean, we've seen that in real time. And I think the pandemic was the big, that was the big wake-up call for a lot of people. especially people that were forced to take the vaccine because they had jobs or you know they had a fly or they had family members and then they they got some horrible side effect and those people got what they call red-pilled you know i know a lot of people that got red-pilled from that

they just can't take it anymore it's crazy and it's bubblish you know what i mean there's certain areas geographically in which that's the mentality and they stick to it i mean here in austin i'm known as you know uh a skinny little faggot i went to la and it turns out i'm a racist nazi like i'm like they were doing jokes on me at that roast in which it's like what are you guys talking about there's parts where i'm literally like what the i've never even heard this about myself i'm on a comedy show every week where people take shots at me and i've none of this

is a thing well it's made up and it's all they also made up a bunch of stuff about like you

going to saudi arabia yeah which is crazy right crazy they just made it up yeah like not only made it up turned it down like didn't go when offered vast sums of money that the bus boy bag boy tony would never imagine turning down and people don't even know that you turned it down right because you haven't been public about it right i mentioned it i meant glazed over it on one for one moment on kill tony once but yes the people that turned down that money are you and shane gillis yeah and meanwhile netflix clipped that and put and pinned it on their instagram that joke and with the caption long sip because i'm sipping my water because the joke isn't on me so the camera shouldn't be on me meanwhile they're getting my reaction shot to all you guys took that Saudi Arabian money and make it makes it look like I'm offended or something or guilty of taking

Saudi Arabian money but just a joke when you just lie about a fact and to make a joke is crazy because you're just lying like that's there's a difference between that and making a joke about something like you had to make something true and then criticize them for something so you had to lie about something and then criticize them about that lie that you just invented yeah which takes three seconds to find out it wasn't true exactly it takes a really quick search like oh he didn't

go right okay on the contrary the the guys that chelsea was complimenting during that set basically kevin hart and pete davidson did take the money right and went to saudi arabia also you don't

think chelsea handler would have taken that money if they offered her to go to saudi arabia she went to dinner at epstein's house exactly what the fuck are we talking about but it's all right Because Woody Allen was there. Yeah. And apparently she gave him the what have you. She told him. That's what they said. She told him. She was very upset with him. Yeah. At the intelligence agent slash sexual predator's house. Yeah. Guys who are arrested for statutory rape. That's fine, though. Crazy. Just, yeah, don't be a white guy.

it's not it's just the whole thing is so stupid like if you want to make fun of someone for anything for you know you looking gay or you like you're down with that but there you when you invent a fact that's not true you say it's not true and then you criticize someone for that like that's

stupid that's a stupid way to do comedy yeah you know and the way that it's covered and everything

it's like what what are you guys doing well if you didn't know and people didn't know obviously because they laughed. They thought maybe you did go or maybe Shane did go. They didn't know that you were the two people that did say no. You know, Jessica Kurson went and she got criticized so much she gave her money away. She gave the money away. I think she gave, what did she do with the money? Find out what she did. But I was like, oh man. Listen, those people that went to see Jessica Kurson, first of all, I heard she murdered over there. She's very funny. She's a fucking dynamo. She's a killer on stage. Very, very entertaining. lovely lady i love her to dust she's fun to talk to she fucking murdered over there i heard so a lesbian woman from new york went to saudi arabia like it donates riyadh comedy festival fee to human rights campaign well wow all that money's going to someone's payroll yeah it's going to a daycare center in minneapolis yeah you feel better but meanwhile someone it's paying for someone's salary that's probably not fixing homelessness or whatever the fuck it is that's what they do tom segura went and put a photo of a ferrari and said thanks saudi arabia yeah but everybody was very upset but my my perspective is um the people that are in that audience if you're upset at the people that kit that are paying and organizing okay the people that are in that audience though that they're performing to they don't get a chance to see american stand-up comedy and they're getting a chance to see it live and stand-up comedy like music like literature changes people's minds it changes all art where you see someone a different person than you with a totally different perspective that lives on another side of the world that says something that you think is hilarious and you love it changes you know it changes people's perspectives you win hearts and minds i mean that's real like you you can change the world a little bit by getting people to say hey we kind of are we all have a lot of shared interests we just want to have fun we just want to be with our friends be with our family and do what we want to do like everybody wants that including those people in the audience like those people in the audience in saudi arabia were just saudi arabian citizens they're just a bunch of people that live there that came out to see comedy like performing in front of them i mean what is wrong with that it's was it's wrong you're supposed to boycott it because the people that run it probably were involved with the killing of jamal khashoggi in some way or the people that finance it okay maybe i see i see how you didn't want to do it and i see how shane didn't want to do it and i probably probably wouldn't want to do it either but i don't have any problem with people doing it because i think at the end of the day you're just like i don't have any problem with saudi arabia putting on these boxing matches that i talked about i love that they put on these boxing matches

And oddly enough, that's not really criticized that much, even by like heavy duty left wing MMA media, which is a real thing. There's a lot of like shit, shit libs that are MMA media because they're journalists and they just happen to be fans. But they have that like hardcore left wing perspective. They don't seem to have that much of a problem with it. Not like people had the problem with the comics over there where guys like Louie and Bill Burr, they just get destroyed for that. Yeah. Yeah. It's nuts. But I think Segura had the right move. Just don't even pay attention. Fuck off. I'm going to perform wherever I want to perform. You know?

Yeah. No, it makes sense. Totally. I just can't go straight from a Trump rally to Saudi Arabia. A little bit of a hop, a skip, and a jump.

I know. It's also, it's like, you know, is that what you want to do? I don't want to go there. It's too long. Right. I want to be on a plane for 16 hours to go anywhere. Yeah, exactly. Why? I hate it I hate flying yeah fuck off it's terrible come to Texas yeah yeah exactly it's just we live in a very polarized society and I think a large part of that is what we were talking about earlier with social media and mentally ill people just just screaming into the fucking void every day I just would like to suggest to people just try not to engage like that for a month and See how much better you feel. Yeah. Just try it. Talk and make friends. And hopefully that's not how you've set up your life where you have to do that for a living. Hopefully you're not one of those people because there are people that are paid posters and they make a pretty good living just posting and getting engagement. Well, you know, I don't know what to tell you.

you're trapped right you know if your whole thing is like shitting on people all day long you're kind of trapped yeah but you can't feel good there's no way no there's no way it's like the amount of cortisol that must be pumping through your body all day where you're going over and and i see like people that do that i see how they get destroyed in the replies and i'm like and i know they're reading that like good lord yeah like i don't know how gavin newsom is still alive every time he posts something the way he gets destroyed in those comments it's like god

fucking insane well no one is happy it's just the funniest thing because it's he reminds me of like one of the last actual politicians like he's a different just lying ignoring of facts type of human being because we're witnessing it. Maybe it's easy for someone in, I don't know, New Hampshire to go, ah, that Gavin Newsom's the future. But we lived in California and I've been to San Francisco recently and we've seen it. Like when you travel, you know, comedians aren't the end all be all and these wise whatever sages perhaps, but we do travel a lot and you spend a weekend in a city and you're not just doing your shows you're having lunch somewhere you're having coffee somewhere you're dealing with the people at the hotel lot whatever it may be there's different communications and vibes and energies and there's so many of these places especially california you know san diego's like a last stand huntington beach is an area around there there's like these little pockets in which there's still some common sense and happiness enjoy newport these little pockets but those major cities are fucked man even the drive and you know I go to LA basically maybe once a year now for a quick always fun visit always doing some arena and a couple nights at the store which is different unfortunately but the drive from LAX to that area of west hollywood slash beverly hills is gruesome everything is for lease everything is empty um there's nothing new except for the crazy looking weird ass obama museum library which is the craziest weirdest eyesore humanly imagined where's that it's like on the way up there i can't remember if it's like off of la cienega or fair that's not the new one because the new one

is in chicago isn't it yeah oh it is what's the fucking they built something that looks just like

that monstrosity no the one in chicago people don't like it i think it looks dope it looks like it looks like something from blade runner yeah i like it a lot of people don't like but it cost a lot of money cost like 850 million dollars see if you can find out what that building looks like show me a photo of something that looks just like that building sports complex on

in Los Angeles they made. Who did the Obamas? Yeah. Oh, okay.

What is the one in Chicago? A lot of people were criticizing it, and I go, and I saw it, that thing looks dope. I love it. Like that thing? Where is it? Yeah, the one there where your cursor is. Click on that. Oh, that's a rendering?

I don't think it's done yet.

Oh, it's not done? Maybe. I thought people were in it.

I don't think so. What's it down there in the lower? I think they just showed this online and everyone was going crazy.

I thought people were already going to it. I don't know that um I think that's it that looks like a rendering to me that looks fake as fuck but that one down there that one down there with the darkness in the corner yeah right there is that real I think that's a real photo I think it's done. I might be wrong, but see if it. Oh, you have Los Angeles, Chicago. Yeah, it's real. So it's up, but I, I think it looks cool. It's different. People are saying it's ugly. It looks like, see if we can find photos of it. Go to images. yeah just there we go like there dude i think that looks dope really yeah that yeah windowless look at how it all's a writing on the top what does it say go all the way up please oh uh unconstrained well convention by what it's written on two sides so

Oh, right. Oh, it goes all the way around it. Oh, that's fucking cool. I think that looks cool

I mean, maybe I have no taste. I mean, we can't even find an angle of what they're trying to say there. Right. I don't know what it's saying, but I think it's cool that they did that, that they had words that go across like that. I just think it looks sick. But I like that kind of brutalist architecture. I think that's what they call it. Yeah. I like that kind of cool cement with big glass. Like, there's a lot of houses like that, especially like in the Hollywood Hills that I love. I looked at one of them back when I was starting to make that cheddar. And I was like, maybe I should live in Hollywood and then I could just do the store right there. But I was like, probably not that safe. I looked at the house above the store that Mitzi was selling. What was on Colfax? Was that what it was? Was that those street? It was the comic store, the comic house where like Kinison stayed there and Pauly lived there for a while. but I had dogs and I was like this is not enough backyard it's too small and also it's like it's too close to the machine yeah it's like right next to the beast like I don't know if I want to be like right next to the beast I think I'd rather be outside the beast and go visit yeah like that for me for my head but uh I looked at a couple of houses up there and one of them was this house that was like really it was out of my budget really I was just I shouldn't have been looking on it it's like 10 million bucks and it had crazy like like concrete with massive windows but it was right there on the street like you're walking on the street there's a sidewalk you could rean over and touch the front door of the house and i was like yeah this is kind of crazy to buy this house and the guy was like don't worry we have state-of-the-art security system so i go yeah you know what that is i go your cameras are going to catch a guy with a ski mask robbing you yeah and two weeks after i said that the guy who owned the house got shot in it whoa two weeks got shot in the neck fuck yeah damn yeah yeah so hey that's these places man but the arc that kind of architecture i think is dope i like like that crazy modern cement stuff but for a house like what you're gonna live in the reality is you'd probably be like i'm sleeping in a museum this is too weird yeah i'd rather just have a regular house yeah windows are a necessity yeah i just want to see stuff i just want to be able to have a cup of coffee and see some trees you know let me just sit down and fucking collect my thoughts for the day you know i don't necessarily need to be in a fucking museum concrete ass big it's there's something weird about it it's like you're too weird if you live like that you're weird man you're living with this giant 20 foot high glass wall in front of you that looks out at the blade runner scape that is los angeles from the hills yeah have you seen that view at night have you ever been up to a house oh yeah have you seen

this house oh that's sick i love that house it's known as like the oakley founder's house i don't

know if he still owns it but yeah that's up there yeah that house i love see if i was single and a Baller, that's where I would live. $210 million. A bargain. Fucking love that shit. I see shit like that, I'm like, oh my god, that's where I love it. But I don't want to live there for real. I think after a while, you'd be like, I'd rather have a log house.

I was trying to find pictures of Kanye's concrete house, but this is not the one I was looking for specifically. That's fucking dope.

I just love those kind of houses that look like that. Like, especially that one, that circular one. the way you pull into that driveway and the the entire back house faces the lights and you see the lights like it's hard to see from photos of how look how sick that looks man that's sick i love that but the lights from that like if you're up in the hills you want to be above looking down and it's like a movie it's like a sci-fi movie it's one of the coolest fucking

views i've ever seen paulie has the fucking as crazy as it sounds that motherfucker when he made it he bought a house that's on top top top top top of the hollywood hills yeah with that mtv money dude it's crazy he remodeled it recently when i was there for the festival he's like dude you gotta come see the house come see the house i'm like paulie i'm so busy that's very highly unlikely come see the house dude you gotta come to the house sure enough i went there one afternoon for a fucking coffee bro it is crazy he was right he's got the house he did it it's on top of everything so there's if a robber does try to go up there they're robbing someone else's house they don't want to go to the tippy top of the fucking hill that's a tough escape that's the

problem is the escape yeah you want to be close to the bottom right so you can right speaking of which I've been watching, I went down a rabbit hole the other day.

YouTube we're street racers and this is one guy who is like a famous street racer because there's all these videos of him he got his his thing set up where he can shut the lights off he's got this black Corvette I'm gonna send this to Jamie yeah his name is really slow like R Y L S L O and he's got videos of these Cop encounters so they like baits cops and then goes on these mad runs and you watch it you go. Holy shit. I love it Yes, this is the dude

Yeah, so about him not just yeah, this is well

He's like a legend online because he does interviews only with a voice changer where it takes his voice in a bitch like that Where he describes all the modifications that he did to his car but he puts a 3d camera on the back of his car and he uh you know they have those things where you stick it on the back of your car and he gives you a 3d view of the automobile and he has video of the cops like flashing their lights and his car has got a thousand plus horsepower so these poor cops and they're like 300 horsepower fucking crown victoria they try to chase this guy he just disappears and then once he gets out of the line like go back to that video where it was before

watch this i mean it's this is it's just edited it's not his videos it's just i understand but

if you just i know this video but if you what what he does is they start pulling him over and in the beginning when they pull him over he hits the gas and then shuts his lights off did you pass that spot here it is so so this is it so they hit the lights and he's like see ya Are they going to show it? Yes, this is not the... Okay, so it's not the compilation. So when he does it and he hits the gas, he gets... Here it is. He gets far enough away from them. They're not showing it. These motherfuckers, they have to edit their own shit. Leaving it alone is better. So he gets ahead of everybody and then just... He has a button where it kills his headlights. And he's using night vision. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's nuts. So is this it? Yeah.

Since he enters ghost mode here.

Yes, this is it. so this is this guy so his license plate says we'll run like it's a fake it's a fake license plate the cops get up behind him they hit the lights and he goes bye and the cops realize there's no way to catch this guy it's not look at that oh lights go out and he's gone and he's flashing lights on people to get them the fuck out of the way and there's no way to catch him and then he bangs u-turns he knows where he's going he plots it out and the thing is he's filming this and uploading it oh yeah so he's gotta hide his identity through how many different channels how does instagram not know who he is how is he posting i guess he's using a vpn he's probably using a proxy and he's probably going through some other country or something if he's smart if he's smart enough to avoid detection but he just has these fucking crazy car builds It's like he's got a Calvo Viper that has, like, I mean, I don't know how many fucking horsepower that thing has. But they make some of these Calvo Vipers. It's a company here in Texas. They make Vipers that have 2,000 horsepower. What?

Damn.

Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Does anybody know where? Does he always do it in the same city? I think he's in the Dallas area.

How fun. Well, yeah, well, not good if he kills somebody. But it's very spooky. yeah it's nuts man because this fucking dude uh really knows how to drive too and you see these poor cops and one of them the cops wipe out they slam into another car i think they're trying to pass by these cones and the road cuts off and the cop hits the cones then loses control of his car and slams into another car so like people can fucking die especially if he runs a red light he runs a lot of them and someone's being an idiot maybe someone's doing exactly what he's

while he's running the red light dude you have to see what kanye is doing right now it's a it's a historical moment in all of art it's unbelievable yeah you said that he's standing on the globe right well not only that he the entire everything is a super production and it's all him like you could tell he's made every decision and tweaked everything to the to the color of everything to when it happens to how it happens that it's not too much he's not overwhelming the senses with lasers and lights and all of this it's all so strategic but most importantly it's first of all it's the fucking greatest production i've ever seen of anything and i come from pink floyd land where the live show has to be ahead of its time and state of the art and everything for my mind to be blown and i was expecting this to be like every other

rap concert that i've seen which is going to be fun and good and maybe great of course it'll be great but this was like a thousand times my expectations because first of all he's doing pop-up shows at stadiums which is crazy he announces it a week or two in advance and the stadium's like okay we're sitting empty that night we'd love to sell beer and water and get a percentage of merch right how these venues work they don't give a fuck and he's not promoting it everyone else that's been to one or seen one is promoting it and then the mayor of whatever city or whatever leftist person whether it be the governor of that state or whatever is like this shouldn't be happening so they're promoting it for him and it's filled to the top of the fucking stadium whereas even pink floyd or the rolling stones or whoever announces a tour all at once and goes hey buy tickets i'm on tour pretty please come right he's just like san antonio july 4th boom a week ago literally and what's crazy is that my buddy got me tickets to go see him in tampa because as all we knew is that he was going to tampa and so there i there i was and i'm looking and it's filled to the top and the floor is filled and it's he doesn't stop he doesn't take a break there it is i saw that on instagram after his first one that he did i think it was in la and I'm like, oh, that's crazy. I need to see this. That is nuts. That stage is nuts. But these pictures and videos do not do any justice to what is happening sound-wise, energy-wise. Just that stage alone is fucking insane. It's crazy. And he enters at the, he walks through the crowd because obviously it's in the round. He comes out and you hear a pop from one side because they can kind of see him. And then the globe turns on and, you know, he waits until it's dark. So he enters at one point and then inside is a lift that only takes him. So, like, there's no one that can storm that stage or anything because it's inflatable on the outside. So it's an impossible, impossible to, you know, storm the stage or anything like that. And he's the only one that has access to the lift, obviously. and he has a tether that he's attached to so that he doesn't go off or anything so doesn't fall into the balloon exactly and it is the most diabolical show i've ever seen in my entire life ever and that includes all the fucking everything's and again i come from the school of pink floyd which is always 10 20 years ahead of its time production wise and this was fucking nuts because he does not stop he does not take a break he doesn't go thank you guys for coming out until the very end in which he goes it's all about love i love you guys thanks for sticking with me all these years when

all these people said this and then by that point two and a half hours in when he's saying that you're just like you got to be fucking kidding me well we realized the bulk of his work how many bangers that guy has oh it's nuts bangers and i as an experiment took my one buddy who said that you know part of the group was my one friend who has always been like I don't know you fucking love Kanye I mean not really my thing but he's not he's just not really a rap fan is the reality so I invited him on this trip and his mind was fucking now he's a diehard Kanye fan now he's going back and you know realizing that he's always been a Kanye fan like it's such a crazy fucking thing because not only does he have hits on hits on hits but he does not stop in between songs because some of his beats kind of correlate or this and that he'll literally just keep going and going and going until his amazing on his new album he has this keyboardist with one of those like crazy blow into tube instrument things i don't know what it's called but he has a solo a big one on one of the songs which is gives kanye a minute and a half to catch his breath an hour and a half into non-stop going and also on top of all that you know a rap concert's a rap concert but kanye's the greatest producer of all time in that industry so every noise that's happening even if he's not talking or or singing or rapping into a microphone is all him and him only you know what i mean like he might get an idea or an inspiration as we've talked about or he's a master of sampling um old hit songs and having them be in the backbone of the thing and everything but this is it's just a whole nother level absolute insanity like i thought i was gonna go there and be like yeah and maybe you know move a little bit or sing a or whatever and instead my jaw was dropped the entire time is there anybody that ever bounced back from being canceled like him and that's really the underlying thing there's this feeling of loyalty that's there and we're right you know what i mean there's a feeling that everybody there is like they're correct does that make sense yeah i saw a breakdown of it because my algorithm's feeding me kanye stuff non-stop since i went to it because somehow fucking instagram knows and whatever and i watched a breakdown of it talking about how like it's like this psychiatrist or energy specialist or something that's talking about how and why this is the craziest concert ever done before and she breaks it down and goes people that like kanye believe in themselves

because if kanye saying i'm the greatest i'm the man i'm a god all of these things makes you not like him and you insecure you're insecure does that make sense like it's like he if that turns you off to somebody then you don't really like yourself that much why do you think that well again this was someone else's psychological breakdown of it and i'm probably not explaining

it correct because i was stoned on a couch i see how what they would be saying to try to defend him but there's some people that just get turned off by that kind of braggadocious rap music i don't right i love that shit well i love 90s hip-hop talking about how great they are i love it yeah i'm a giant fan of that shit yeah you know i think like some of my favorite rap lyrics like some of nasa's lyrics just him talking about how he's the shit yeah totally i don't mind it at all but it's like it's when you're singing along to that stuff and you're listening to that stuff like you're feeling what that guy's feeling when he's saying it and if his raps are hit if his rhymes are really hitting especially like kanye or any of the greats you know biggie tupac nas like when when they're nailed it's like oh oh my god oh with good lyrics and good execution it's a it's a fucking amazing art form even if usa really did create it yeah i don't i don't want to believe that you know i think they probably very they promoted it what's really interesting is the lack of big rock and roll bands i know jamie's kind of defended this but right i think it's a fact oh no no doubt there's less big rock and roll bands when we were a kid when we were a kid rock and roll was everything it was like rock and roll and if you like rock and rap like you are a weirdo you know yeah like I really became a rap fan like almost like silently like secretly because you had to be a rock fan if you if you loved rock music and you went to rock concerts like that's all you liked but I was like yeah but this is good too oh yeah you know I'd like listen to ghetto boys I'd be like you gotta listen to this

come listen to this shit is awesome yeah oh my range is absolutely ridiculous we're our green room i just got roy orbison on vinyl oh oh yeah pretty woman oh my god and again that's one we're gonna be in trouble for that probably fuck fuck and again pretty woman much like pink floyd's wish you were here is like one of my when you get into the radio stuff it's kind of funny how some bands and musicians get like typecasted by their hit whereas like pretty woman's kind of repetitive and easy even though it's a jam right but his other songs that like i hadn't even heard before because i'm like this guy seems like he has some fucking some hits and he does man and uh you know i what i mean by the pink floyd thing is it always fascinated me that people go oh yeah i like pink floyd wish you were here another brick on the wall and it's like damn it it's because those are the radio songs because they can't play an 11 minute long shine on you crazy diamond right all their real hits that they're real echoes which is like 17 minutes and go slow and fast and and bluesy and then jazzy and this and that um yeah there were so many songs like that especially from like

the 70s where they just took wild chances and had long-ass songs like for famously free bird like record executives are telling them like the beginning of it is too slow yep and they're like nope this is the song exactly this is what it is bohemian rhapsody yep there's another one yeah whole lot of love yeah whole lot of love has a minute and a half

of fuck sounds and symbols and shit it's weird i only recently got to see the The Queen movie Whatever that is Is that Bohemian Rhapsody? I believe so Whatever they call it I haven't seen it Yeah well

I walked in on a part where it's the rec they're at the record executive's office and he's going, this can't be the main single off of this thing. And and Freddie Mercury's like, dude, it fucking has. And I'm obviously not quoting this, but and the record execs like, man, you're saying gibberish at points. It's slow with a piano. You're saying things that don't even make sense. And it's fucking eight minutes long. Like, what are you thinking? And they're arguing back and forth and back and forth. And his bass player, guitarist, or one of the guys that's in the meeting with this record exec sitting behind a big fancy desk points at the wall and goes, so you were the record exec that made this, huh? And he points at Dark Side of the Moon. And you see the record exec go, oh, fuck. Because what the fuck was that? It starts with a heartbeat, has no words for the first however long.

Also, what is the deal with it aligning with The Wizard of Oz? Crazy. Roger says it's just coincidental. I know. But it seems like the universe organized it. Yeah. It almost seems like evidence of the simulation. Yep. Because it's so good.

The way it lines up, it's too good. I've always said it's the craziest coincidence of all times.

I feel like it's evidence of the simulation. There's something about it. There's evidence of some weird, bizarre synchronicity between those two pieces of art.

Yeah, the producing that would have been near impossible. Impossible. Not like you couldn't, but just the amount of planning and figuring things out. Yeah. The technology then would have been so hard to do.

Yeah, so hard. Pink Floyd would have had to, they would have literally have to watch it and then go over each beat and decide.

How high was the person that figured it out to? Right. It got discussed, but like, how do you notice that? Hold on. It's still going. Right. It's 45 minutes.

But meanwhile, it's perfect. Like, we've watched it before. It's perfect.

The lyrics are the scariest part. God. Which one is which at one point when, only when, the only moment when both the good witch and the bad witch are there. Yeah, it's nuts. And the wildest one to me is always when she's balancing on the thing, you know, in black and white and with the other farmers around. And on the run, that crazy blip, blip, blip, blip, blip, blip, blip starts and she falls off at that exact moment. and chaos is happening.

It's crazy. Is there a why in that conspiracy? You know, like, why would they have done that? Just to do it? Just for funsies. Because they were Pink Floyd. Yeah. There's a lot of other moves you could have picked.

Well, I mean, Roger Waters says it was an accident.

I know, I'm just saying, like...

I know, I know. But the conspiracy theorists, I don't know. I mean, I would imagine they think that... The people that believe that it was some sort of a coordinated conspiracy, it's like, why wouldn't they say that? Why wouldn't they just say, we lined it up with The Wizard of Oz? Yeah, if they said that, it would make more people watch it and more people listen. Well, they did pretty good off of it. Yeah, they did pretty good. Who were we to give them advice? Yeah. Speaking of doing pretty good, you're fucking killing it, dude. Congratulations. Thank you, buddy. It's awesome watching it all. Thank you, man. You're taking all the hits. You keep on moving, keep on trucking, just makes it stronger.

On to the next one.

Makes the jokes better. New jokes are killing it. Yeah. Yeah, it's fun. We're having a good time. Yeah.

Yeah, Tuesdays and Wednesdays are the best, working them out at the mothership.

Yes, sir. All right. I appreciate you, brother. Thank you, man. Hell yeah. Bye, everybody.

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