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It's nice when I get home, too, to get on a bulldozer or something and go clear. Man, that's the most relaxing thing in the world.

Is it?

Yeah, get on a bulldozer and go out there and start clearing a road.

Oh, yeah.

And you don't realize how far you've been until you get off it to walk back to your car, you know? But it's just pushing trees over and clearing fields.

God. Just, yeah. Except the animals are like, here comes, look, we love his music, but this guy's.

Yeah, that's pretty fair. Of course, I'm making like a field I'm going to plant some food for, man, you know?

Okay, so some of it's just rezoning for them. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, all it is just, yeah. It's like, look, guys, we're kind of.

I'm not going to put a parking lot or a Kmart there. It's going to be like, you know, it's a field. I'll leave him some shade trees. It's fine. Sorry, man. I'm acting like you're the bad guy. I was like, but you made me the developer on Fern Gully. It's like burning the woods down. Like I'm not doing, I'm making it nicer. Like I dug a lake, like threw him somewhere for him to swim. Oh, really? Yeah, man.

Oh, God, that'd be beautiful. You made me the man. Yeah, dude. I freaking, yeah, I made you the bad guy.

You made me like the bad guy on the, what's the movie with the blue people?

Avatar.

Yeah, you made me that guy. It's like just destroying the forest. I'm like making it nicer for the animals.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're down there. Yeah, man. God, I got it. I got to get in prayer. I got to get in the word.

I mean, what you got to do is get on a bulldozer. Yeah. Come down there and get on a tractor. You figure your life out down there doing that. Do you? Well, what do you do? What is your thing that you say is your biggest disconnect from all this? What do you do?

i don't honestly that's the problem right i don't have an immediate answer i would probably say i would say probably working out and going for a walk probably okay well that's that's definitely

one of them but like you're still thinking about yeah you're still in it you know what i mean yeah

i mean if i go for a walk with a good friend it's that's more like just kind of like contemplating discussing stuff but i agree having some having like it's time for me to kind of like uh find some other outlets and stuff you know and i just got off a tour and so that's like this is one of

the first times where it's like well who am i you know what do i do with myself oh both of them who

am i and what do i do with myself like you know not in a not in a whiny way but it just like kind of hit me like that it's like okay so it's time for me to like kind of embrace some of those um but just so people know i think we started in you said you have like you guys got a couple

thousand acres down there in alabama i bought i've got 1780 right now that all touches but i bought it in like little pieces here a little every time i go down there i'm calling my neighbors up see if anybody wants to sell anything but my granddaddy buford's brother my uncle bill had some property that i grew up running around on it was 141 acres and i bought that first and then just since then i've grown it and it's uh just a never-ending project i mean you go out there i'll go home and it kind of keeps me sane on the road too because i'll be thinking about man when i get home i'm gonna take the d3 over here and clear this one field off or make this road around the outside of the property so I can go in here or I'm going to dig a lake over here. So you're just constantly creative because everything you do is making the land more valuable. And you have a crew that does that with you? My dad and his brother used to frame houses. My dad was a carpenter.

and he's 70 now. So, I mean, they're both pretty old and kind of beat down. So I let them work around the farm and just, you know, run tractors and all that. And they love that kind of work. And I got a couple of buddies I used to do construction work with that helped me out out there. So there's always something going on. But when I get home, like, you know, when you get on a tractor like that, you don't have your phone. I mean, you forget about it, you know. Oh, yeah. And then going out there and you get caught up in what you're doing. And I've always enjoyed the kind of work where you can see what you did at the end of the day. I love that about construction work, but that's something you don't get in what we do. Like, yeah, there's a lot of accolades and big moments and highs out of it, but as far as like what we do never has an end. You're never finished with what we're doing. Like there's a little thing you say, okay, well, that went well, check, I'll go to the next thing. But like being on tours, you know, my tour doesn't end. We just tour till holidays get here and people stop coming to shows and we start back around February, you know? So it's nice to have something that you can finish. Amen.

Yeah, yeah, having that justification. Just like looking back, seeing something, the day is done. You know what I'm saying? You can feel the evening coming in. You're like, okay, that's time. Yeah, I used to work on a soybean farm over there near like Vidalia, Louisiana, right over on the Louisiana-Mississippi border over there. And those are some of the best days, man.

It was tough work, but I still go back in a frame a little bit with my buddy, just to remind myself what it was like.

Yeah, dude, I just loved it. Whether they had me painting or just, like, moving seat or just, like, cleaning spray rigs, just whatever it was, man. There was just something, like, yeah, there was something real rewarding about it.

And you could also, like, I could be hungover or whatever it was and be having a bad day. And I could get through a day at work doing that. But this, you have to be happy every day. Yeah. And you got to at least act like you are. Oh, yeah, you got to show up. I can't get on stage and, you know, be up. So I got to be enjoying myself because everybody's there to see me and they want to see that. So it's nice to be able to go over and kind of cut loose on something like that.

Well, look, welcome to this podcast, dude, because I've spent probably a third of my life whining on this bitch about Stutt.

I'll whine with you.

Yeah.

What do you want to complain about?

Yeah, dude.

I know one thing I'm going to complain about on this podcast is you don't have no coffee maker here.

Oh, yeah, we don't have a coffee maker.

I'm sending you one. I'm going to own it right here.

You were in my kitchen. Yeah, you saw I don't have one.

I look through every closet in your house. There's not one here. I look through all your stuff.

Dude, look, I ain't making coffee in the closet. I'm not doing anything in the closet, dude. I'm out. Yeah. You're out. I like women. But yeah, the last thing I'd be doing in there Dude, if I'm in the closet so long That I'm making coffee in there

It's in a while, yeah

Yeah, I guess I'd be But sometimes you have a tough time Picking out an outfit or whatever And I'd just say outfit Let's keep it moving Outfit, yeah Shirt Yeah Picking out a shirt It really is a shirt

What made you pick that one today?

I tried on another one I took it downstairs It was just It felt a little more formal And then I was like

That feels right I feel like that See, I took it like you wore that Because I was coming Well, I appreciate it

I feel It just felt right, man Dude, you remember I saw you Good to see you, man

We're doing this interview backwards Thanks for coming

This is how it goes in here

By the way, I'm Riley Green

Ladies and gentlemen, Riley Green Thanks for coming, bro I appreciate it We've been talking about doing it for a while Yeah, we have been And this is good, man I saw you Remember I went to your surprise party

Yeah, but I don't think you were invited Technically I think you came in and got a piece of cake

and left honestly is what happened okay that could be true but i remember though like you weren't in a i don't think it's a prize party yeah i don't like surprises yeah i always because i walked in with your sister somebody's like you know sometimes over there at losers they'll be like yeah you know it's a riley surprise party you know we got to go don't say sometimes like

it happens a lot that was the one time that happened good point yeah sometimes riley's having a surprise party no and it'll never happen again uh but sometimes you'll be there and they'll

like this is going on there so we got all so people will make like the um the mecca or whatever the the the you know the journey over to uh your bar which is right next door yeah but you had to

go in the back door you had to sneak up the back i'll come to the back but you were heading in so

they're like yeah it's a surprise party don't say nothing i'm like i'm not saying nothing i don't even know i'm that good you know and then we all walked in and people yelled surprise at you people

thought you did you were at my surprise party it was true i thought you playing the whole thing

people thought i was in it i'll give my man i picked out the cake you know it's yeah it was great i mean you ate some of it i took two pieces huh i took two pieces sounds right you okay this

is no joke you literally got invited to my podcast my uh surprise party last minute walk in take two pieces of cake and leave yeah that's what happened amen brother yeah that's cool uh when we got in

there i was like well shit if you don't even want to be at a surprise party then i'm gonna get my I'm gonna head on

I just don't need To be surprised To enjoy something Like for me I don't get to see my family And friends that often I'm traveling all the time So if you gathered everybody Just tell me And we'll go over there And we'll And do

And it's enough that they're there. Yeah. You know, I give my manager a hard time because I won an ACM award in 2020. And they call me and they're like, hey, you need to do a Zoom with the label. And so I don't have the computer. So I go over to their place and they got it all set up. And there's my president, my label and the vice president, everybody. And I'm like, what are we talking about? And then Keith Urban comes in. I was like, hey, Riley. I'm like, hey. He's like, you want to come to, what are you doing on August 8th or whatever? You want to come to the ACM awards? And I was like, yeah.

And why is he asking you?

Because he was the host, I guess. But my point is, why didn't they just tell me? And I could have been like, oh, like surprised. Then there was all these articles about how Raleigh Green won an ACM award and couldn't care less because I just was confused. Yeah. So just get, you know, don't, I can act surprised. Right.

But yeah, tell me. Just tell me about it. Yeah, tell me a little earlier. If you tell me 10 minutes early, I'll just be like, yeah. I'll be like, oh.

Yeah. That was good. I believed that. You did? How you looked when I got here. No way. That wasn't too bad. That's how you looked when I walked in. Oh, no, you're coming. What about me and you trying to schedule this? It was really stressful for everybody involved. You know what? Everybody on my team's like, so are you doing it? I was like, hell, I don't know. I think we just said we should do this.

Well, we were supposed to do it. Here's what was happening. We did. You and I decided we're going to do it.

Yeah.

Your schedule also got different because you now are heading out to LA because you're working on The Voice now. Yeah. So that started to happen. And then we were supposed to have Conor McGregor was supposed to be on, and there was this looming moment where it was like you had to pick

when you picked me

I didn't his schedule was super you can lie to me

for the sake of the

oh I'd lie to you but I'd just soon tell you the truth it's just right now it's easier but there's just like a lot of little moving parts

if he comes while I'm here are you going to make me leave and come back another time

yep

maybe he'll bring coffee honestly if he comes and realizes you don't have coffee he might leave

bro I didn't know you said this much stuff I always feel like you're kind of a quiet guy man That's my bad read on you

I usually talk a lot When I got coffee You know what I mean I'll probably start fading here soon So you want me to do the interview No I got things I didn't know if you like Studied up or whatever

Oh yeah man I studied up dude I got a good plan Yeah I got a strategy ahead of me It's mild but it is what it is

Listen if you start to run out of stuff Just give me the

And I'll You know what I mean Yeah dude Yeah if I need some help I'm going to definitely It'd be nice If I get a little help From Raleigh Green Everything's good Everything's pretty good man What was I doing this morning I was texting with John Pardy This morning I like that dude He's going out on tour He's an interesting guy Isn't he

I've been a big fan of him For a long time

Unique voice Like everything's Just kind of like An interesting guy

I've always used him As an example When I signed a record deal And started having songs On the radio I think the toughest thing To do is to be Commercial enough That radio will play it And then also still Unique and cool enough That it's a good song And not just cheesy He's always done A good job of that He's had a lot of A lot of big songs

Agreed man

Yeah he's an authentic dude man And he's just Oh man I didn't know You put pictures of people When we were talking about him He's an interesting guy I've got a picture of me Opening for him In Mobile, Alabama At the Soul Kitchen From like 2006

Is that where you started I know you started In Alabama But at the Soul Kitchen Is that like a Is that a popular spot I'm not familiar with it

It's on Dolphin Street I mean yeah It's like one of the clubs You come up playing Got it It was a big deal for me to play it. I opened for Chris Cagle there, Corey Smith there, John Party, several people and then eventually I got where I was headlining it and then moved to the Sanger and then went down and played at the Floor of Bama.

That Sanger's nice over there.

It is cool, yeah.

Yeah. You played at Floor of Bama during spring break times?

I played Floor of Bama forever. $150 a show, played for four hours, you get one free drink per break and you get played 45 minutes at a time. And I remember John McGinnis that owns the Floor of Bama was a good buddy of mine and he asked me to come down and play during spring break every day for three weeks it was like Alabama spring break one week LSU one week you know the LSU folks love it

up there oh they love it anywhere dude it's true anywhere where something is fermented enough where they can make alcohol out of it it's fermented down there they love it I had to set my own tent

up on the beach and it was like I'd be in the shade for about an hour and I have to move it you know nobody down there listened to me I played every day from 12 before you play under a tent on the beach like a like a tent you camp with like a you know a tailgating tent yeah and i had to set my own speakers up and everything i played from 12 to 4 every day and then i would go back to the river house across the road where they would keep the bands bands would come in and play that night and i would go party with them and i did that every day for three weeks and it about killed me definitely took 10 years off my life playing that early shift well yeah and then staying up all night too i would like mosey down to the beach and get there in time to play at noon the next day oh i'd

be partying down there, dude. Oh, I remember partying down there. We buried a guy in the sand. I don't know if he's... Still there? I don't know. I haven't heard from him. Kind of weekend at Bernie situation? Look, dude, I'll say this. He wasn't that great. of a guy anyway to be honest with you and I'll know that and I'll tell his daddy that but yeah we've had some I mean who didn't have some times down there

there's some pretty epic stories down there broke a guy's arm one time arm wrestling in the floor bound

for what just for fun or for money

no I mean I didn't do it on purpose and I wasn't for money I was playing a show and I took a break and I go over on the side and these guys were like man you're a pretty big old boy let's arm wrestle and that's for whatever reason that's what we grew up doing my dad and his brother and all them and I beat two or three guys and they were like man we're gonna get somebody and they brought this dude over he was probably 40 you know and he's all jacked up and somebody videoed it and his arm just snapped oh yeah

was that a popular video that went around I'm trying to think I don't even remember singing that

I mean like we can show you right now right let me see oh there you go you gotta listen to it though

oh come on

you gotta have the sound up three

two one go

oh

oh oh my god bro stop Dude, that's enough, man. Sorry.

How'd he find that so fast?

Huh? I don't know, bro. We got it.

It's on the internet.

Oh, my God, dude.

Yeah. I love that movie, Over the Top, you know?

Yeah.

He turned his hat around.

He was serious about it. Oh, that was a movie. I forgot about that film, man. That was a good one. You mentioned John Party. What about Red Clay Strays? Did you come up around them? They were always out and about.

They were a little bit. I mean, I was already here, I guess, by the time they were kind of touring around Alabama. But it's always a good sign when you hear somebody's name or a band and then you keep hearing it over and over again before they've gotten to a place where they're really recognized you know on the on radio and award shows and all that now it's awesome because they've made it there yeah they're winning awards and and what

a cool thing um the town that you grew up in what was the uh how big was it jacksonville i know it

uh i don't know how many people i mean there's a college there when the college is in i think it It was around $8,000 when I was going to school. What college was it? Jacksonville State.

Yeah.

But it was a really small town. I was in the school wasn't in it. And I grew up in a community right outside of there called Pleasant Valley in a Williams community. And it's one flashing light. One store called Green Store. E.L. Green runs the store. He's 94 years old. Still there? Doesn't charge tax. Yeah, he just guesses what everything costs. Oh, I love that. He'd bring the Snickers up there. He'd be like, it's $2. The next day it'll be $2.50, you know. But all my granddaddies and their brothers used to go out and play dominoes in the morning before work we'd stop in there and it's a cool little vibe hadn't changed much either look at that there's an EO right there he got a picture of him so was he related to you? probably look at this dude probably that guy's a legend no way that's him? I saw him yesterday dang I want to go see him come on my dad said they bought their basketball shoes they played in Converse All-Stars he sells Converse All-Stars

those shoes are horrible to play in

oh I was begging to break your ankle.

And you slide. You just slide everywhere. I don't know how they did it. They must use a different type of, maybe some type of turpentine.

I'll tell you what old Benny the Jet Rodriguez using things, though. You know who that is? Uh-uh. Remember on Sandlot, the guy that jumped the fence? Oh, yeah. He put those black ones. There he is.

What did he put on?

Man, this, hey, your man is quick.

He's crushing today.

This is easy to do an interview like this.

Oh, he's doing it. You just say anything. Oh, yeah, look at those. What are those? What were those? Something flyers or something? PF flyers. P.F. Flyers, bro. P.F. Flyers were a real shoe. No doubt. We had those ones that would, remember when those shoes came out that would blink or whatever?

You talking about light-up shoes?

Yeah, and everybody would just call you like a queer all the time.

Did they say that?

What? Yeah. Why would they say that? I don't know, because your shoes were dang blinking. I get it a little bit. Or people were like, your feet are gay or whatever.

Well, I don't guess I had any. Those were probably expensive shoes. My parents wouldn't buy me those.

Were your parents, what were they like growing up pretty strict over there or what was it what was it like i mean it sounds like just a good small town environment it sounds like a real kind of american southern environment yeah there's

a lot about where i grew up that kind of looks like a movie like going back in time you know i'll bring people down there and they'll be like man it's really like this you know my dad built houses my mom was school teacher uh my i never got away with anything mom caught me anything i ever did pops built houses for living and i used to go out and work with him and i wasn't playing ball so i tried to play any sport i could to keep from having to work i was really lucky my all four of my grandparents lived in the same town so i saw my grandparents every day so

i was really close with all them that's awesome man yeah and do you think that's what led you to uh writing grandpa's never die that's just a lot of like that's a lot of influence of why

why grandpa's never died uh my my granddaddy buford loved country music he'd sit around with old epiphone guitar when i was a kid and we'd sit around and kind of play and we ended up turning his parents' house, my great-grandparents, into a music hall. And on Friday nights, all these old people would come out there and play and tell jokes. And I'd sit around and watch how they made chords and learn how to play like that. But yeah, that's my granddaddy Buford. And my granddaddy Linden was a big fisherman, golfer. So I'd hang out with them every day.

day and I wrote the song about them as a tribute and then of course it became a big hit for me and I ended up putting both of them as co-writers on the song so dude that's awesome writer credit for

bro they must have felt I mean they must be so proud huh yeah my granddad Buford died in 2010

so he didn't really get to see me you know like have any real success I was kind of starting out with music but my granddad Linden got to come see me at the Opry my grandmother Nancy did my Grandmother Lola Jean's still alive, so she's probably cutting grass right now.

She loves it. That's awesome. Yeah, man, I definitely miss things about that at home, man. Dude, what if grandpas never did die? You ever think about that? Because there would be some side effects of it. There would obviously...

Okay, so everything in that song, there are side effects, too. If every road was named Copperhead, it'd be really hard to get anywhere.

Right, okay, yeah. Really confusing, you know? Yeah, that's a good point.

Coolers never ran out of beer. People would alcohol poison.

Yeah, and then they'd be out on the roads.

High school home teams never lost. Everybody would be 500 at the end of the season. So there are problems. If you want to just pick apart the songs that I write, we can. No, I'm not picking it off, man. I'm just saying.

First of all, it's one of my favorite songs. Thank you. And second of all, but no, I do think if they never died, first of all, Inheritance would never start. That'd piss some people off.

Yeah, but only people with rich grandpas.

Right. Because, I mean, I, you know. But even if you had a shitty grandpa, if he had $50, you knew you was getting a little waterfall.

Yeah, but grandpas always give you a little walking around money.

A lot of them, but that other pocket. Some of them, my grandpa would only reach into one of his pocket, and I knew in that other pocket. That's where it was. Oh, that's where it was.

Yeah, my granddaddy always had a $2 bill that had.

Yeah, that was popular.

Had a picture of Bill Clinton blowing a whistle on it. Oh, yeah. So it was not real. But he'd give me that a lot. But he'd give you that? Yeah.

That's a good idea, giving fake money to children. Yeah.

Well, you know, it keeps him out of trouble.

yeah that's a good point yeah yeah what if grandpa's trying to think of just some other

interesting facts grandpa's never died just like if they never died um so a positive i think would be the the things that i do miss about that generation was like they were hard workers yeah you know i always say i was kind of the last generation like work with my dad like my buddies didn't but like you know now i mean i don't know that people get out of high school and college and really have to bust it anywhere you know there's a certain amount of like work

ethic that's lost a little bit well yeah i think and also a lot of the trades i mean one thing like we've had mike rowan here a few times and he talks a lot about how there's not enough um viable tradesmen right now like there's jobs yeah there's just not people that can fill them that have the

skill sets you know we could be working and we're just talking yeah you know yeah and also i thought micro lived in my house for most of my childhood my dad watched dirty jobs and deadliest catch

every day oh dude he's in there he's a yeah listen to his voice it just it makes you feel like you got to fill out a job application every time i hear micro's voice i'll fill one out online yeah you know i'll buy a damn just buy a second quick creed or something just just in case just

yeah i just feel like something could happen see that's what i'm talking about though you you go down to Alabama and you get up and you're like, man, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to, I'm going to build a little pen and buy some goats. And then you just go to the store and buy, you make a list and you make it happen. And then you go and you dig the holes and like, you're not thinking about anything else when you do that.

Yeah. Oh dude, I think there's like, I do think with society, sometimes we took a very errant path out into like existence, you know, like this, like, you know, and I think there also became like a greed you know there's a greed has a lot to do with that I think when somebody wants to keep leveling up you know so but I think I think we'll we will look back at some point or generations in the future will look back and be like man we were missing out on a lot of the things in life that really mean something you know well yeah I mean it's social media that's

caused it the the amount of comparison you have to somebody else yeah also let's talk about how me and you were talking like a couple of grandpas now about the younger generation like man these kids now they don't they don't know man they don't know what it was like you know uh i mean when i was growing up i had a phone it didn't do anything yeah you could call if you wanted to send a k you had to press six seven times you know like it was tough and i have social media or anything now all they've known is and i remember people i thought were rich growing up oh yeah but now everybody seems rich it was like a handful of people that had bunny in my town i I was like, man, that's big time, you know?

Oh, dude, if somebody had a garage, dude, we had this one kid, Jeremy, and he... It's always Jeremy. He got a garage, and we were like, look at this mother... You know, we couldn't believe it. But then, dude, two days later, we're over there just doing the door up and down and running back and forth.

Oh, it had an automatic door?

Yeah.

Oh, that's wild.

He got the real deal, dude. But yeah, man. Dude, what was I reading the other day that the first 911 call was in Alabama? Alabama. Did you know that? Domestic dispute. It could have been domestic. I think it was people, two people fighting over a baked bean recipe, probably. I mean, I don't know what they didn't get it. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. They're sealed down there, brother. Try to get a recipe in Alabama. How dare you?

They wouldn't, the government wouldn't unseal it. That's hilarious. Not on our watch.

Haleyville, Alabama, 1968.

There you go. The very first.

We started it. We launched the standard across the United States.

I don't know if that's good or bad. Like, things were kind of getting a little rocky down there. Like, look, we've got to figure out a way to get help over here quicker. Or it could have been, dude, it could have been just, look, somebody's like, you know, there is a guy over here just hugging his sister in like a, in the worst way. Nice. You know? I mean, there's just, hey, yes, officer, there is a man over here. I mean, and he is just hugging his sister.

Yeah, I mean.

I just don't know what that, I mean, that 911 call could have been anything, you know?

Honestly, what would that hug have to look like? you're sitting over there just crushing the heater in Walmart parking lot and you see somebody hugging you know their brother and sister you go that's a little too long honey give me the phone I'm gonna call this in it'd be out of town if they'd call it in I'll tell you that and it wouldn't be somebody from Louisiana I'll go ahead and tell you that too Louisiana Mississippi is not making that call

they'd be like hey these people are stealing our style that's what they would say bro they're stealing our vibes

just smoking a cigarette holding a baby

yeah oh god dude I remember And I've told this story But we had this lady Miss Robin And she was like our teacher She was like our

She sounds like a teacher Miss Robin

Oh yeah Good call And she was Damn Cooking me today man And she would The other kids would do nap time right But I didn't really believe in nap time I just wanted to get busy And get at it Yeah I got that I was ready to get to work

I was probably like that yeah

Even as a kid I was like what are we fucking doing We're barely Nobody's doing shit We gotta take a break from that

You get old and realize nap time was for them, not for you.

Oh.

You know what I mean? That was their break.

Dang.

Lay down for a little while. Yeah. You need a nap. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I'm going to hit this heater. And that's what she would do, though. Miss Robin, though, she knew I didn't sleep, and we had similar hair. And so she would come and kind of hit me with her foot, and that meant I could go outside, and she'd light up a cigarette, and I would just lean on her car tire, and she would just tell me about her.

Smoke and look at you?

Yeah, she would just tell me stuff about her husband or something, Roger, and he wasn't doing shit.

Most Rogers aren't.

Yeah, that's how they called it.

Hey, listen to this.

I don't know why I got the laughs today, but I'm glad I do, man. Thanks for coming in.

Thanks for having me. We'll get some coffee coming shortly. You know what bothers me?

What bothers you, Riley? Because I bet it's a lot.

Well, one thing that really bothers me a lot, how do you look at a baby and name it Roger

yeah

you know what I mean yeah like my granddaddy's name was Buford how did you look at a baby and say that's Buford

that Buford right there you know what I mean but in the south

and then like think about you're playing with the kid when he was like 10 and you're another kid you're like Buford get over here like that's wild

yeah we had a fella named Fremont by us and people thought he was rich or whatever or gay just cause his name was like real high end rich or gay People thought.

One of the two. Did his shoes light up?

They did. Did they roll? Oh, those wheelie shoes? Yeah. Those are the best. I mean, you saw a kid doing that. That was a little after my generation. I feel like, I don't know if we had those. I would see kids have those. They had the Reebok pumps. Remember those? People would pump those shoes.

I like the Reebok. I feel like I've always judged my shoes and clothing as in, like, would the version of me that doesn't wear that kick the ass with the version that did? You know what I mean? Wait, say it one more time. So, like, the version of me that wears wheelie shoes would get his ass beat by the version that didn't. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. That's why I make decisions in life.

And then you go with what you're like, that's not for me. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. What's the worst, what's one of the best or worst bar fights you ever saw out there? Yeah, for sure.

Hell yeah. We're about to get into a different gear now.

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responsibly I ain't been on a podcast where they can look up stuff you're talking about in a long time I guess it did it on busting with the boys yeah those guys are cool that's nice man oh it's

nice man I mean look it's been I mean one of my goals this year is to try and learn more stuff and get a little bit more involved in kind of what's going on like in the universe since I'm not torn I have a little bit more time to absorb some things and and just to want to do that you

know it's like how far pluto is from neptune or just like more social things i think no just

consume more like different types of artists work right different films just absorb more stuff so it's like i have more things to like think about and talk about i can comprehend that you probably

like me in that i don't listen to as much new music as i used to before i got in this world not necessarily because i'm burnt out on it and not really because i'm like i don't want to get you know drawn to something that's going to influence me to be like that i just i don't know i just i think i'm busy and don't pay attention to it like i used to i don't have a passion for it like i did but i mean like you don't watch probably watch a lot of stand-up or i mean isn't it weird that you get removed from it when you're in it you know i feel like i feel that way

with me that's a good point yeah you think you're in it so there'd be you be in more of it you just

got so much of your own stuff you got to be concerned with it i don't yeah there's a lot

that goes into it especially once you get to touring and like with podcasting like i'll sit and watch through every single episode like i was up last night till probably you know 11 watching years putting notes on an episode like giving notes and like you know stuff and like because sometimes we'll say stuff where it's like oh we can't leave that in you know we just can't like sometimes we'll say stuff that's slander that's like you know it's like you got to check through or send it to an attorney like there's just different things you got to do now um and so yeah there's a lot of I think there's a lot that goes into that um did I hear you say that

you don't have a computer yeah no no I mean I certainly didn't they got me one during COVID to do like zooms and stuff and I remember my managers had me set up on this zoom interview with a radio station it didn't they were asking me to go to like speed.com or something and see what my bandwidth was and I didn't have internet at my house and they couldn't believe that damn Yeah. When I go home, it's a disconnect from it, you know? Yeah. Except when I do, like, photo shoots or interviews or something down there, you know, it's nice. I've started steering people that way because every time I did a shoot, we'd, like, rent an old truck, we'd go out to some farm somewhere and stand in front of a bunch of cows. I'm like, man, I got all that in Alabama. Let's just do it down there.

Yeah. Do you run in a lot of, like, ex-girlfriends and stuff around home? What's that energy like? Because I'm sure you had a girlfriend at some point.

At some point, I've had a girlfriend, yeah. I'm glad you brought that up.

Because you seem like a guy that's, yeah.

That would have a girlfriend at some point in his life. Yes. Yeah. You're right about that.

Thank you. And we just had to switch our coffee into some different cups. That was for the people watching? Yeah.

Okay.

Dude, and yeah, so you just said something that's kind of interesting.

It's Tony's cup.

Oh, Tony. Hell yeah. Hope he's good. He's got Vivian's cup. Well, Tony used to drink. He'd have passed. He's at eight.

HIV he had.

Damn.

We washed it.

R.I.P.

Not a lot. He didn't have the big case. He had something light. But a lethal case all the same. He caught it in the spring.

Yeah.

You know, so you don't get the, you catch that winter hiv, baby, it'll, it'll climb up your legs. Starts with the toe. Yeah, it starts. And then it comes looking for you, dude. That's how you get that.

What a horrible thing to talk about.

It is. We're joking, obviously.

No, no, yeah. I know. People haven't figured that out by now. they thought we were being serious when you explain the coffee thing that's like that seems

like something a serious podcaster would do well you have to remember that some people can't see it some people just listen half of our audience is just listeners oh you're gonna want to watch this one so so yeah half our audience is just listeners so it's like you got to kind of explain

stuff sometimes it's like we just do a cut and we swap chairs i'm like hey we're right back we had to swap chairs you know what i mean yeah yeah you gotta move this plant different plan

in here dude one time i got so high in uh taking pot in california yes i was absorbed i was doing yeah i was smoking weed and uh i called down to the i got back to my room it had been a long day i called down to the front and i said somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while i was gone right and they're like excuse me and they're like i said somebody there's a bunch of big plants in there said somebody put a bunch of plants in my room i was gone and they came up and it was just the regular plants that had been i've been in this room for a week and i just had never really

noticed them i guess okay that's that's really fun for me because i had a thing when i first got a tour bus i'd been touring for several years but i was driving to shows or whatever so there was such a big like that was a huge moment oh that's a relief and i took a buddy of mine out on the road with me to kind of help me you know whatever he was doing assistant whatever you want to call it and i had this thing where when i was drinking i would take all the plants from the lobby of a hotel and put them in my room and when i say we got a bus i was just i was partying back then you know I got after it so as I say yeah and I don't know where that came from I never wanted to steal anything and I would always like take it back but I my room would just look like a jungle I would say any potted plant I could get furniture from down there just wheel them in now how would you guys get them in there we just I just go to the downstairs and pick them up and kind of like you know you see on like cartoons where they walk behind the thing like it was covering them you know yeah it was a real silly thing I remember being in Mobile we played Mardi Gras down there which is where Mardi Gras originated, by the way. Mm-hmm.

Thank you. Yeah. Somebody probably called 911 because shit was getting weird down there.

It does do that.

Get here with the Moon Pie down there. Oh, Moon Pie started down there, didn't they? Where did Moon Pie start?

I don't know if the Moon Pie started. Here we go.

Where'd they start? Before you move on, we're going to hold that thought. Tennessee. Let's go.

Chattanooga.

Wow. The Windy City. The Moon Pie originated in 1917 at the Chattanooga Bakery in Tennessee. You know, Mountain Dew started in Tennessee.

Did you know Appalachian coal miners wanted a snack in their lunch pails, and that was how it started?

God, I'd love that. Wouldn't you love that? You've been in a mine all day.

They requested a filling treat as big as the moon.

Did they really? I just knew that.

I didn't read that.

They requested a filling treat as big as the moon.

That's why it's called a moon pie.

Who wrote this?

You know there's made-up stuff on the internet? Did you know that? I figured that out The last couple of years People can just say Whatever they want Put it on the internet

Yeah we never figured that out We'll just look it up And say it

Yeah

We don't really test anything

Well you can just You can just say Whatever you can like Oh nowadays

You can say whatever

What I've found is All you have to say Before you say Whatever you want Is get ready with me

Yeah

If you say get ready with me You can say whatever you want After that It doesn't have to be true I found that out Did you see that? There's videos They'll say get ready with me And they just make up stuff

Well it's gotten bad too It's like get ready with me For my nephew's funeral Or whatever And I'm like what why is that dude you know it's like or they're like oh get ready for me while i cheat on my spouse or whatever and sometimes it's just like this shit is not helpful to people that's

hey well hold on a second there no you're right but there is a there's a world where a get ready with me like if you did it to go do something yeah that'd be interesting i mean i'd be putting makeup on you're just like the actual get ready part's gonna be pretty slow right sure you're Putting your clothes on.

Right.

But explaining where you're going.

Yeah, saying where I'm going. Get ready with me, guys.

Do they do like a to-go fishing? That'd be good. Get ready with me to go fishing. And then talk about what lures you're going to take and stuff.

Oh, yeah. Talk about my rigs or whatever.

Let's do a good old boy. Get ready with me. I like that.

That's not a bad idea.

It's not a great idea. It's not a great idea. It's not going to – we're not going to get an endorsement deal. I don't know.

Yeah. Who would watch it, though? Swim bait. You'll get a lot of women watching it, dude. I think. Yeah. And I'll get their friends, you know? That's right. And that's fine.

I think that's okay with me, dude. You know, I just thought of it. You kind of remind me of Brink. Who is it? You know the movie Brink? Uh-uh. Bring it up. maybe it's a combination of the good guy and the bad guy.

Ooh.

You see what I mean? Those two guys together, that's kind of...

That's a man on the right?

Yeah, and he's the bad guy. Man, look, immediate hate when I look at him for me.

Oh, because you saw this movie.

Yeah, but I think there was a little redemption at the end. I think he helped somebody up after you pushed them down or something.

Brink.

Yeah.

I can't believe you haven't seen that. I don't know this actor. I'm sorry, dude. I did it this guy does look also a little bit feminine in this section in this image because he's wearing a neck I think the necklace has a woman

it's the lips I mean he's got

yeah never mind it's a great point the guy definitely looks kind of feminine in this yeah you don't have to

you don't have to tiptoe around that

yeah I don't have to apologize dude yeah

he's gonna be way more offended if he wears light up shoes than what you just said about him looking feminine I promise you

that dude will do a get ready with me I feel like and this character would do a get ready with me that's fair to say 100% okay good okay good that's what i feel like but yeah dude that's got to be why i mean like i can't forget what we've been talking about that's okay this is what this okay that's what

this is i've been doing that for 10 years cool it seems like we start somewhere we'll get somewhere but it's rubbing off on me i did the brink thing and i don't know what we're talking about before

that that's okay dude i'll tell you this you've done a great job of just being yourself managing things well staying in control confidence and a lot of good humor i didn't even expect it i was

working on posture i was hoping that was gonna come that's not really there do you want some good posture i'll tell you where to go you're a funny guy man i'm all right today i'm okay today it's it uh it's contagious man you be around funny people do you feel like like totally honestly do

you feel like like if i showed up at a music place i would feel like you know i i would sit there wishing i could do music if you show up to a place where there is a comedy do you feel like

you have to be a funny guy no no uh but i think everybody wants to be funny do you that's a good i mean right right huh i feel like funny is probably the the quickest way for somebody to like you that's fair because you know when you see somebody especially somebody that's famous he's somebody that's famous you're thinking oh he's probably a jerk you know he's probably that is people's first thought if you're a little separate self-deprecating you kind of cut up Oh, man, he doesn't take himself too seriously. I feel like those are the people I like.

Do you feel like people think that about you ever? Like, probably, especially if you're also a handsomer guy and a popular guy, people probably need to be a harder time about it.

You need to be real funny is what you need to do.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah, you got to be real funny. Word of the wise. Did you, yeah, what was one of the best bar fights down there? Did you tell me that? I don't know if I asked you that.

No, we went into a completely different rant after that. it's always girls girl fights are always way more serious than guy fights i feel like you know and i'm always surprised too at the song they get in a fight during one of your songs well there's been a couple videos i've seen of people like getting in a fight during i wish grandpa's never died or i got a song called jesus saves you know and like that's a how like how do you

emotionally go to blows right like jesus saves but he better not save that bitch you know yeah and somebody just comes across and just and the craziest part people sometimes that are fighting like already will be in like a cast or something in an arm cast or something that's the kind of

shit i don't get yeah that but they just got out of a fight to come like they just got out of a fight and now they're you know i will venture to say this i bet you the people that fight at bars or concerts probably do it often habitual you know i mean those are the ones it's probably not a lot of people it's a handful of them that are just they keep doing it i had buddies growing up that liked fighting yeah you know they're like that was they go to the bar like they were gonna get in a fight right i feel like i got goofier you know i mean i was always like take my clothes off or like jump in a lake or something like that you know i don't right instead of the fighting guy

Yeah, like get ready with me while I go fight or whatever. Like that would be...

Put an eye black on? Yeah. I'm about to go kick somebody's ass. I'm about to go to a concert and fight somebody I've never met for no reason. Okay, now I'd watch that.

During Jesus' age, get ready with me while I beat somebody's ass.

Also, what would you wear if you were going to get in a fight? Think about that. You get dressed for a lot of things, knowing that there's a potentially maybe you meet a girl.

That's a good question.

So you put on something maybe a girl would like. I know what I would wear. Or maybe you're going to be, it's going to be hot. Well, let me tell you. You're going to be comfortable. What would you do if you were going to fight?

It's a great question. Thank you.

Boots would look intimidating, but they wouldn't be as good for a fight as tennis shoes would. I agree. Roller shoes would not be good. Light-up shoes might distract.

But roller shoes might be good, say, if you're on a hill, hit the guy, and then you just activate them, and you roll right downhill, and you're home. You're back at the house. You know, if you had a strategy like that.

No, that would be good if you were going to run from a fight, if you were going to try to escape a fight. Like, you think somebody's going to kick your ass at this place you're going and wear roller shoes.

Yes. I got to go. I'm out. Yeah. And, like, you ain't leaving.

and you're like, watch this. Watch this. You just lift the front of your feet up.

That's what I'm saying. But like no other part of your body has to move and you just look back and your hair is just flowing and you just, that's cool. Honestly, I changed my opinion about this.

That would be nice. But yeah, dude, there's some chick out there. She's in an arm cast or whatever and she has a dog she says she does, but it's been taken or whatever. It's gotten by CPS.

Is that Child Protective Services? It is. They take dogs?

Huh? They take dogs? Oh yeah, they will. I mean, if you're not being a good.

So she says she has a dog, but it's gone.

Yes.

And she's got a cast. Yes, she's got a cast. Or I feel like I'm there now.

And she's like, get ready with me while I go over there.

I'm getting my dog back.

Yeah, over to Snooker's Tavern or whatever, and I'm beating somebody's ass after dinner tonight.

Yeah.

And then she probably puts on nice earrings. Yeah, I guess it is.

Just so you can take them out. Yes. Because that's intimidation right there.

That's a move, dude. Think about it. And the police...

Honestly, I wish...

Yeah.

I wish I had them just for a... Were you ever wearing each other? Think about this. Did you ever have your ears pierced? Me and you in the bar, and we just disgruntled. I mean, we're just disagreement. I don't know what it is. I can't even imagine because we're good old boys. But let's just say we're not about it. Same girl or something.

Yeah.

And we're about to go down like, are we doing this? And you're like, hell yeah. And I just.

And we're going to fight each other?

Yeah. I mean, wouldn't that do something for you?

You're going to get her. No, no, no. And no judgment or anything, but you're going to get her. Like, I'm not, I would rather be like, you're going to get her. Okay, well, this is just a pretend thing. Okay, it's just a pretend thing. Sorry. You know what I mean? Okay. You're mad at me. Okay, and you take your, and then you take your earrings out? I'm like, oh, shit, he means it.

I guess it's about to go down.

Yeah, he don't ever take his earrings out. You know, he didn't even take them out when we went on the water slide after, you know, senior year or whatever.

See, now it makes it hard for us to be in a fight because we were hanging out senior year on a water slide. That's a good point.

But you didn't take your earrings out then, dude. If you're taking them out now, you're here to beat some ass. Yeah. Huh. Yeah, dude, I think if I got in a fight, I thought about this now. I would wear a nice suit. Because the story after would be like, man, you see that dude in that suit beat that guy's ass.

He beat his ass in a suit.

Yeah.

That's cool. I like that.

And then he went to work, probably.

And then he went to work. See, I was picturing like a wedding suit, like a tuxedo. But you're talking about like a suit like you work on Wall Street.

I'm talking business suit. Yeah. Or just work on any street. like some people you know people used to get dressed up a lot more than they do now think about that think about the fact that on a daily basis every day people would get like people took a like a there was a lot more i think care and concern about how they looked bring up some images of people how they dressed it's say 70 years ago i didn't grow up around that uh well not for us i'm talking about two maybe two generations earlier or something yeah i mean

I feel like a person that dressed nice Who had a nice job When I was growing up Was like the bank president And he just wore a polo shirt with khakis

Yeah

You know like My mom wouldn't let me wear that to church And like That was fancy then You know

Oh yeah But look at people dressed I think snazzy Do you think that's true? Maybe I'm just kind of romanticizing it

Well I will go along with like the whole You know like sweatsuits to the bar

It's gotten That's what I'm saying It's gotten pretty casual It has Like there's like Dude there's There's even men's shoes at A-L-O, at A-L-O, or whatever it's called. A-L-O. And it's crazy now. We're so dumb. It's A-L-O, and I don't even know how to say it.

What is it?

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I agree, dude. What is it? A-L-O. But, yeah, I'm just trying to think. Was there a bar fight that stood out to you over there? Like, is there one that stood out? Because that much time at Floor Bammon, dude, that's a lot. So Floribama was always a place you could get your stomach pump. I never saw a lot of fights down there, yeah. You could get your stomach pump, and you could get a lot of splinters. It used to be a place you could get a lot of splinters at.

You could, yeah.

Like, everybody in that bitch had a splinter, dude. If people were doing the stanky leg, 40 people would get a damn splinter in there.

There's a vibe about that place that's very—you know, beach bars, too. We got a little more, like, Jimmy Buffett laid back. Let's all get along, have a good time.

They've done a bop-top. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

God, that's good stuff. It really is. I do remember—oddly enough, I was in Louisiana. and I played at the Texas Club.

Mm-hmm.

Down in Baton Rouge? Baton Rouge, yeah. And I remember I was about to sign a record deal. I had somebody from a label down there, and I was horribly sick. Like, threw up for the show, like, just trying to get through it. It was one of the worst right-before-show sickness I've had. And somebody got in a fight during the last song, and I was like, hey, like, you know, knock it out, and I couldn't get their attention. They were still, like, going at it, so they were close to the front. I took my guitar off, and I poked the guy in the back, and I was like, hey, let me play one more song and then we'll all go out back and just beat the shit out of each other. And everybody just cheered. The two dudes were like high-fiving and then we went through and got the song done.

Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's what people, because some people just want to plan, you know? Some people just don't know how to, they're like,

we'll fight against we'll fight now and it's like yeah you come along with a little bit of strategy for people some people will follow suit when a leader shows up people will follow that's what's kind of wild sometimes you know even in an instance like that I think

well it's a little bit of like you go at somebody in a like high situation with a little calmness too okay listen you don't want to fight we can do it it's fine I got this one more song let me play this song and then back to the fight and they're like oh that's reasonable just be reasonable

Yeah, be reasonable, dude. What was I looking at? Oh, I saw you do a good bit of hunting there. Do you hunt out on your property out there in Alabama?

I do a lot of turkey hunting out there. I usually go up north deer hunting.

What do you think about turkeys?

I think about them a lot.

You think they're one of the best birds or not? We had Steve Rinello on here. No. He loves them. I mean, the best bird to just in general. Steve Rinello gave them top bird, he said.

For what? What stipulations are you going by? They don't fly that good. Yeah.

Look, I agree with you. What I'm saying is he said they were the best bird, and I said, well, look, Steve, I begrudgingly kind of supported him because he was going through it when he said it.

Just because we're so close to –

And there he is with one right there. Oh, he loves them so much. That one looks dead.

He's got to be talking about hunting birds. I would think an eagle is an easy win for best bird. Trevin, what do you think he said?

He said that bald eagles, despite being America's bird, they're scavengers, whereas turkeys are highly intelligent. Their heads change color based on their mood.

They do that?

Yeah, so he was all about it.

Yeah. But then he's also deceasing them, so that's kind of an interesting concept.

Turkey's the most challenging bird to hunt. Yeah? By far, yeah. I hunted turkeys for two or three years before I even got close to killing one. Really? Yeah, my dad didn't hunt. I kind of just taught myself how I was interested in it. Yeah, like they're tough, especially down on those eastern birds down there. They're tough, man.

We went and hunted some Osceolas down in— Florida? Yeah.

Yeah.

And it was interesting, dude.

It's a little different down there, so it's flat. You're hunting in the hills and mountains. You know, you got a bird that's calling, and you're calling to him, you think he's right there, but he's two ridges over. He's not—you know what I mean? You got to know how the land lays, and you think he's going to pop right over top of the hill, and he walks around the side and spots you before you see him. It's tough.

Yeah, I think maybe the place we went was a little bit easy. It might have been sort of like a beginners or like summer league or whatever.

That was you and Caleb?

Yeah.

You're on Michael Waddell. You're on Michael Waddell. Yeah, y'all were goofing off. I saw that.

They wouldn't even let me have a gun. So I thought that wasn't cool.

I get that, yeah.

But then the second part was, dude, they—

What did you wear? You put camouflage on. You're like you're going to the city pool. I did well.

First of all, they did not even send a fan flitter or anything about what we were supposed to wear. They gave no directions.

But they had some stuff for you.

Yeah, they had some stuff down there. And it was good, dude. Like, the food was great. We had a great time. But I agree it was flat, so that's an easy place to shoot them. And, dude, so we were out there, and we maybe saw some or maybe didn't see some. I don't remember what happened. But afterwards, we're leaving, and there's, like, a couple, like, the game's over or whatever. It's, like, around 11 a.m. There's a couple turkeys just hanging out in the ditch, right? And, like, you know, it's over. Like, we were over there hunting them, and we happened to just see some over here. It's, like, you know, like, they're in the locker room. The game's over. One of them has a towel around his neck. You know, one of them's texting his wife or whatever.

He's not worried about it. Yeah.

One of them's taking his feet off. You know what I'm saying? taking his wings off he's just a fucking sparrow with a fucking morning job you know we got him yeah and fucking they're like let's shoot him i'm like dude the fuck that's not fair you know yeah like i just want to be a fair challenge that's the thing sometimes with hunting i do like i had a great time i would like to go duck hunting is something i would like to do um i know a guy but uh but that is a fair that's a fair like i just like a little bit more of a

fair challenge you know well you go out in the woods like in my farm with a call first of all you gotta figure out how to call yeah you camouflage and you go out there and like try to kill a bird on your own it's it's tough you know like with no weapon no you could take a weapon i just mean like you call in one end is not the easiest thing to do and then you almost have to get busted by one to know how well they can see you know oh that's pretty like we'll have one sneak up on you yeah and turkeys because they're not going to come in the way you want them to yeah you go and you pick your spot but he's going to try to come in where he can see you from as far away as he can you know wherever that hen is that he thinks he's going to see yeah they kick my butt

for several years yeah yeah i saw that you call him you do a call can you do a regular can you do

right now no i mean i i use a like a diaphragm or i got a slate call or what's a slate call

no that's something that one's fucking yeah

that wasn't good

that's from Key West I think but let me try it one more time

that's yeah that's pretty good

it's pretty simple because the goal is you're trying to

do it one more time yeah that's better that's it see how you use your chest yeah that was good yeah

save your chest that was good yeah that's cool yeah that's nice man dude and when people get out there with those calls i love guessing what birds different birds there's so many birds out there it is kind of interesting how uh how some birds you can hunt them but so many birds you can't

hunt them yeah uh do you think that is a these taste good kind of thing because i've never heard anybody that'd be like a cardinal's delicious you know i mean like right those birds don't have a lot on turkey's got a lot of meat on them yeah uh dove and pheasant are obviously really good birds eat duck or good to eat geese yeah you think that's what you think that traditionally indians whatever it was back in the day like started hunting birds that they ate and they ate some robins and then they were like that's not good and then we just adapted to that and

we're like these are the ones we're gonna hunt i bet you're probably right i bet there was always also some pervert always eating a blue jay or whatever off on the side and like look at this

little weirdo i mean because i don't think people eat like skunks either you know maybe in louisiana

but i mean no i mean raccoons people eat a lot my brother would kill raccoons people eat he would put notes up at the church and see if people had any in their area and he'd go get them or whatever um but yeah i guess that is a good point you kind of eat whatever's the most plentiful because you also had to feed a lot of people it's like you're like you know if you're just out there hunting for

one all day it's kind of yeah i mean turkeys are from back like settler days yeah you know like that was that's what it was like the guy and turkeys that came over on the boat yeah and if

you saw a fat turkey people like hey bring some lunch and you bring one dude brings a turkey and one dude brings a little nightingale or whatever it's like the dude eating the nightingale if they

brought like a nightingale stew yeah you know what i mean yeah you'd be like that's a fucking weirdo i think making that shit all night yeah blue jay casserole that didn't sound good some

dude out there yeah would it make making whooping crane omelets or something what about some swan nuggets now them bitches sound good you ever eaten swan you know they also don't hunt a lot

of real pretty birds either though you know i haven't eaten swan no i'd have a little you would

have a little yeah if you went to thanksgiving they had swan i bet they i bet them i bet trump's

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here. What do you got, an earpiece in or something? How'd you know that? No, we showed it a second ago. Oh, that's how I'll start the show. Oh, it is? A little duck call.

Let's go. Let's go, dude.

I've never seen anybody catch that catch the duck call and I do it at every show people are there like signs throw me the duck call they never catch it

well I don't want to judge these people but a lot of them could be women and that is judging them I'm going to take that out

what you said was exactly what you said you weren't going to say it was what you said you weren't going to do you haven't seen the league of their own what the heck yeah I have dude maybe a duck call is hard to catch maybe the shape of it is not something they're used to maybe they're great

catchers and there's you're kind of throwing look like you weren't throwing it easily towards them you know i don't know that's a good question man what uh you're on your biggest tour right now is

that true yeah every year it's a little bigger has it been yeah it's been great man what's the

fear like about that we were talking about this the other night dude you and i kind of had our first conversation the other night a couple weeks ago yeah we're talking a little bit about just like when like as your career goes along the pressure it feels like like you know like what is the rest of your career going to be like and how do you try to shape that if you can yeah and how do you try to shape yourself so that you're okay with however things go there's a certain

amount of uh i've already accomplished way more than i ever thought i would so there's a there's a peace of mind in that and you know there's also a little bit of i'm guaranteed a certain career at this point you know even if i never have another hit i can go tour and you know i can make a living support my family whatever i need to do so there's there's peace in knowing that but i think the competitive part of me and like we talked about the other day is like when i have a hit or win an award or whatever it is i don't feel like i can relax now you know i've accomplished that it's really more like okay now i gotta go do the next thing i gotta take out in my i think i always say that it's i want to try to get as much out of the opportunities i've got as i can because i mean And what you're doing and what I'm doing is very rare, you know, to be able to have the opportunities you've got and to be able to go and do some acting and stand-up comedy and have a podcast that's this popular and this successful. So I feel pressure in that regard of just like I want to go and be as successful as I can. But it's not necessarily a nervous thing, certainly not with the shows getting bigger. That side of it is not a pressure thing because, I mean, the fans make it enjoyable. When you go to a show and you've got a sold-out arena for your stand-up and they're excited you're there, it's easy, you know?

Yeah, I guess with stand-up it feels like it's a... I can't tell. Do you lose... Does the venue lose intimacy with music? Because as it gets bigger with stand-up, it feels sometimes like, man, I wish I could connect better with these people. It's just the way it is. But I don't know if music fits the same like that.

I did a stadium tour with Luke Combs, and that's too big. like i feel like there's no way the person in the far back top row is getting their money's worth at a concert you know and you also lose some sound too and you have to have two rows of speakers one halfway through that's wild it's there's so much reverb and bounce back and then you think about how much of a pain it is to go to that show the traffic to get in for a fan and then you know to be able to find a place to park and all that i just and then they charge in the park too a lot and then you got you know the fact that it's also an open air stadium you got weathered issues and your openers are starting in the daytime so they don't get the full effect of the lights and everything and so arenas has always felt like a great place for me and you still have an intimate show you still feel close to everybody you feel like everybody got their money's worth but it's still you know 25,000 people

yeah I guess like yeah the intimacy gets lost I think at certain levels kind of and so you try your best you try to figure it out you know yeah I guess it's kind of interesting as your career goes on you're like man this has been interesting it's been fun to have this experience yeah and you want to keep it going you want to like try your best and you also want to challenge yourself too because you got to evolve too like I think your does it feel like your music kind

has to evolve as you do with your life like like because um one time I sat down with uh there was this famous comedy manager and I sat with him and he goes you know at a certain point if you stay the same your audience will kind of they age they'll grow older and yeah so you have to like also like because it's almost a trap like I want to stay this I want to stay this song you know like because if like say you get a first hit or something like that you're like well I can't ever be different than this person you know the person that sings that song because i may lose people

you know i'm saying does it make any sense yeah i think that the what your guy said is a little bit not true in the sense of you know that may have been true 10 15 years ago before social media was as relevant as it is but now if you do something well like your stand-up videos or your podcast whatever it lives forever so the next generation you know whereas when you had a song on the radio 10 years ago it lived when it was on the radio and then it went off and that was it it was over it didn't live anywhere else now everything you do lives on the internet forever so if you're doing something well I would really especially like up-and-coming artists I would advise against trying to do anything too different for me what I always do is I try to make sure I've got songs on my record every record that are writing from the same place I started writing from that are very me and then I try to take a few songs and write that are a little stylistically different and just kind of ease outside of my comfort zone a little bit.

But so you're saying that you can change because the thing you did will still stay out there. That's right. So it's kind of a safe space to be able to kind of, if you're doing something different, like.

Yeah, I just think you don't turn and run from something that was successful, you know, and like with country music, you know.

Well, it's scary to do that for sure.

It is, yeah.

But then I guess I'm thinking like, do like, I guess I'm wondering sometimes it's like, yeah, do you try to stay, Like, do you try to make your life fit this certain time? You know what I'm saying, a little bit?

I'll give you an example, and I know you've done some acting. Is, you know, I imagine in your role you went into something that wasn't too far of a stretch from what you do and who you are. So I did Marshalls and, like, my first— Yeah, with Luke. With Luke Grimes? It was great. Nice, man. And I didn't want to take a role that was crazily different. You know, I wanted something that I could ease into and introduce myself into that world and then kind of go on. That's how I am with music is I might try a song that stylistically is a little different than what I normally do, but it's not going to be, I'm not going straight pop. You know, I'm not going to do something totally different. I think melody wise, I'll try some things out and see if it works. But keeping that familiarity and what you've done well for so long, I think is extremely important now because I think the best thing you can be is different. Not necessarily from something you've done before, but from everybody else. you know i mean well you your stand up and your humor on this podcast i don't know anybody else i mean in a weird way norm mcdonald like the the the dry sarcasm of norm i always thought he did something that was so unique and i don't know who i would compare you to you know yeah i think you

always kind of like yeah i don't know i guess you want to be like you want to try and like honor yourself as much as you can i think with humor it's hard to pretend to be somebody else um and i think with music if somebody if you pretended too much and some of it didn't come from a real authentic place for you then it would kind of start to you'd be able to see that after a while

i think fans can tell i think that well i don't think you'd have a ton i don't i think the

longevity wouldn't be able to be there because yeah you're playing if you especially if you're

trying to play somebody else's uh authenticity is really it's it's so obvious now again because social media i mean 10 years ago you could have a song on the radio and people not necessarily know what you look like yeah now they know everything about you my dog's got 150 000 followers on instagram does he really yeah i mean people know everything about you so if you're not authentically what you act like you are people are gonna figure it out you think your dog knows he has that many yeah no way oh man that dude uh he when the camera's on him he's a different person what yeah and where's he from uh i mean he lives in jacksonville alabama he lives on my farm He's been playing cards.

What the fuck, dude?

Yeah, folded.

Didn't have a good hand. Oh, dang, bro. Three and six, yeah. He lives like that, dude. Miss Carl, man. Oh, he's handsome. And that's a Stogie. What's that dog called?

A Stogie's a cigar. He is a Corgi and Blue Heeler. Corgi.

Oh, Blue Heeler, huh? Damn, he's Native American?

I don't know about that. Look it up.

Blue Heeler. Our Blue Heeler's Native American.

No. Do you know what? That's the most direct answer to anything I've ever seen asked on the internet. No, Blue Heelers are not Native Americans. Native Americans. Man, this shit might be fake. I don't know if you've ever been that completely wrong. That was crazy. Where did you get that from? I don't want to know.

Blue Heelers are Native American?

Yeah.

I wouldn't be surprised. Look up what dogs are Native American.

Some of them have to be, huh? How'd we get them? Dogs native to North America fall.

Nah. Look up what type of people think dogs are Native American.

Oh, come on, bro. You're giving me a hard time. No, no.

Seriously, I was curious about that. Well, will you look up what would possess a person to think a dog was Native American? Can we look that up? Tell me about the acting.

Did you enjoy it? Yeah, I'll tell you about it in a second. I want to finish this conversation.

I think this conversation is done. You said that dog was Native American and no dogs are Native American.

How about this? Look up this. How about this? What dogs were owned popularly by Native Americans? But it's changed so much since what you... I don't think it has. I'm saying, okay, here we go. Plains Indian dog. Okay. Solish wool dog. Well, popular, historical, and Indian... Chihuahua. them little bitches were going back then remember the Taco Bell dog yeah I remember it dude but this I'm talking about real Native American

that's the first famous dog I remember you think except for the one that has a cigar that asks questions at the

oh the you know what I'm talking about he's not a real dog so that I guess that doesn't count at all that's a puppet yeah

good point ask what puppets are Native American

can you look up what types of people think puppets are real dogs please

that's funny I like that oh finally I'm glad we got One funny thing today Finally we got You piggybacked off My funny stuff But you really You hammered it on

Finally We'll play rally ball I didn't know We were playing

I forgot it was a puppet For a second Okay I will say that

You didn't see the guy's arm

You see a guy's hand In a sock Acting like a dog long enough Eventually it becomes A dog to you

Well look If I see a guy's hand In an animal I freaking I know what's going on It don't seem right But you know That was probably

We've all been to The Neshoba County Fair That was probably

Yeah Shout out Hardy Yeah But we all know

That's why they run of those chairs at the front. You know, they want to see the show.

That's probably what the first 911 call was all about right there. There's a man with his hand up an animal over here. Bring it back to those Native American dogs. I do want to know what they were, and I want to see a little JPEG of them or a drawing probably. If you can see that, please. I'm serious. I just want to know which dogs they were.

I'm going to get you a hand-painted, oil-based painting of a dog with just Native American things on it. You know what I mean? Like a bow and arrow with feathers and everything.

That's actually not a bad idea.

And a coffee maker.

Plains Indian dogs, American Indian dogs, found across the Great Plains. These dogs were essential beasts of burden. They were used to pull- Beasts of burden. V-shaped wooden sleds called travois, loaded with meat, household goods, and children before horses were introduced. Wow. So they used to use dogs to do like field plowing. um the salish wool dogs kept by the coast salish tribes in washington state and british columbia these small white fluffy dogs were sheared like sheep their thick wool was spun into blankets and textiles dang read the next one the xylophone this is uh the xala

Welcome back to Puppy Talk. I'm Riley Green with my guest, Theo Vaughn.

And I'm here also today. We're so happy. We're going to look at the bone structure of a Zwolacistelia. And they are a Native American dog popularized by the Aztecs and Mayans. These dogs were kept as pets, guards, and physical heaters. Dude, imagine that. I can't even imagine it. What do you mean? You get the dog tonight.

That's hairless. Mexican hairless dog is a wild-looking dog.

Oh, that shit ain't nothing. Look at that little bad boy. Look at the one down there.

I'll say I saw him. I saw the one you're looking at, yeah.

Yeah, look at that little boss.

If you put him on that commercial with Willie Nelson playing, you were always on my mind, I would give the money, whatever it is.

He looks like he's got farm aides, dude. That thing has had a tough run right there. And that was a pretty good joke.

That was really good. It made me close one eye for a while.

I'm just joking. Shout out Willie Nelson and Farm A. Dude, I just saw Billy Strings this weekend, actually. I went there with him, Stephen Wilson Jr., Sheryl Crow, Willie Nelson, Lucas Nelson. They had a show outside of Austin.

Lucas is great. Stephen Wilson is so talented.

So talented, man.

That's awesome. That would be a cool thing to see.

Oh, it was just great to be over there, man. How was the acting? Let me think. it was there was just like a lot going on it took like i wish i'd had more time to like work on the character and i just had we were wearing a lot of hats yeah so when you're doing a lot of stuff it's a lot yeah and you think it's not gonna be you know I was on tour and we were filming in Park City, Utah for Marshall. So I was flying every week to Utah, playing three or four days, or filming and then go play shows and fly back. And I feel like I didn't know enough about the character. Like I was getting the script for like that day and I didn't know any of the backstory. So when I went and watched it, there were so many things I would have done differently if I'd have known this about the character or that. And I would have really enjoyed it if I could have just lived in that world and filmed for a month. Also, it's really bothering me a lot just to think about if you knew that that picture of that dog was on there and you went on a dog, Native American dog rant, just so you could say farm aids? Because if that's the case, one, that'd be awesome. And two, how much preparation would that take? You know what I mean? Like that would be coming into an interview. Don't worry about learning anything about the guy that's here, like me. You don't have to know any of my songs or anything. But if I can come up with a way to say farm aids with a dog, that'd be awesome.

Yeah, I wouldn't. That's insane.

I don't know if I'd like the version of you better that did that or the one that just came up with it. I don't know.

That didn't. That's a good question, actually.

Either way, I like you.

That's a lot of thought. Well, thank you. I've been sitting here hoping you would. I just decided just now. The coffee thing threw me off. I knew the jury was out. Yeah, what do you think, like, so one thing you said a little while ago, you said that, like, achievements, right? Like, they'll keep you going, but do you feel a lot of achievement? Like, if you achieve something, do you really feel it, or does it feel like, like, you don't strike me as the kind of guy that feels a lot of, like, like that sit there and relishes some like if you like something does happen to you like you get an award you get this certain thing it's just like part of the thing yeah I think you get a

little numb to it especially when you're so busy you know you get a little you don't really I guess for lack of better terms sit back and appreciate it I try to make myself live in the moment a little more but for me I look at a lot of the things that happen is like checks you know not that I had the goals of accomplishing those things but I'm like man when I you know ACM awards or whatever it was, we won a couple of awards, CMAs, whatever it is. I'm more looking at like, okay, I got a performance that's got to go well. I need to, you know, figure out the song and make sure it goes well when it does. And I get the award and I got a little speech or something. I'll make sure that goes well. And then I'm like, okay, all went well. And it's like a little bit of relief, but not necessarily like a, I accomplished this. And also that stuff's a little bit political. You know what I mean? The best song doesn't always win. And for me, I think I appreciate a lot more a sold-out show. When fans are there and they're singing a song that I wrote and I can tell it means something to them, there's emotion in it, that means more to me than an award.

I guess I'm just wondering, do you feel like you're good at feeling pride for yourself, that sort of thing? Because that's something sometimes I've struggled with. I don't think too much about it, but it's like, man, sometimes I just... If somebody's like, man, do you feel proud of yourself? I don't feel that a lot of times. Does that make any sense to you?

I think that, I mean, it does make sense. I think that you got to find things in your life that you do feel proud of yourself about. Like for me, it's not musical achievements. For me, I feel proud about my farm. I feel proud that I could put my parents in a nice house and buy my dad a truck or whatever. Those, like, I feel more for that than anything I've ever bought myself, you know? And like my niece and nephew sending me pictures, my sister, of them catching fish in my lake. Like, I'm proud of, like, that. And those are things that I know will last forever. And, you know, I mean, there's a little bit of songwriting pride, I think. When I write a song that, you know, I wrote by myself and I think it was good, it made me feel something, and when people relate to it, like, I feel proud about that. But that's a little short-lived, you know, like a joke that really lands. I think that you've got to find things in life that you constantly want to be attached to, you know. For me, it's stuff like my farm and having a little place at the beach or something, my folks going down there. When people send me pictures at my beach house saying, man, this was nice. We had a great time. That's what I feel proud of. Things I never thought I'd have.

And where's that? I think you said Panama City Beach. You got a place down there?

Yeah.

That was so funny. What did you say?

You said that was my favorite thing about you?

That was my favorite thing that I heard, dude, when somebody's like, man, I got me a beach house down in Panama City Beach. That shit just made me laugh. because what I remember of it from being in, like, high school and college, it was just a place where we were just trashed kids, you know? So just to see a text or something, like, we got a beach house down there. And I know it's a nice beach. I know the Gulf is nice, man. It's like there's not a part of the Gulf that's not even, like, built up now, man. It used to be so different.

Yeah. No, I'm right outside of Panama City, and it's a little quieter where I'm at. But, yeah, no, we all had our spring break trips to Panama City. and it was rowdy.

Yeah. Right now you got, I'm trying to think, was there something that you guys wanted to talk about that was specific? Oh, yeah.

I'm Rowley. Get ready with me While Raleigh gives me a hard time You got a new album That's coming out in September September 18th I think

Yeah that's just me It's the name of the album I put three songs off the album out Last week a song called Go Again The girl named Hannah McFarlane Is on that song A song called Think Is You Drunk It's my new single at Country Radio And a song called My Way There you go and uh yeah the album's gonna come we're gonna put a couple more songs off the album out between now and then but album will be out 19 songs comes out september so hell yeah do you feel any type of

way about this album different than other albums do you feel do you feel pressure to get well answer that question first if you don't mind yeah what's different about this album or what's kind of the

same i think it's uh don't mind if i do that record i think had a lot of different types of songs on it. I think that's something that I, I did well on that one. So I made sure this one was the same way. I got a lot of songs that sound like stuff I've written for years. Then I got a lot of songs that are a little different, you know, and I got fun beach songs. I got drinking songs. I got, you know, love ballads. And so I think that that's what I'm, I'm excited about the album is I think as a whole, it's a good project. Uh, but again, I try not to do anything too different in the sense of how I go about putting out music. You know, it's, it's always

what i've done so far has kind of worked yeah um what about like in your like outside of music life outside of your farm and stuff like that do you think um like you're a guy that probably has an easy time meeting ladies do you feel like like settling down is in the future like if you ever

think about that like well i feel like yeah i feel like you you you know better than that because you're in that world too like it's really not that easy to meet a girl when you're doing what we were doing like i mean i'm not gonna meet a girl to show you know i mean i'm i'm confined to the back you know on a bus and uh i'm not gonna meet a girl on instagram you know i mean and when you get to a place where people are you know it gets tough to know who you're meeting for what and i always feel like if i met somebody that was like a fan i feel like it would be tough for me to be like you know i would look at them like you're probably the same way too as i go in a bar and when people start you get a little bit like makes you anxious yeah i mean yeah i i don't mind being the center of attention at like a show or if I'm in a town I'm playing a show and I go to a restaurant or bar down the street but like I don't like being the center of attention when I'm not supposed to that always makes me feel odd I agree I don't like to feel like if I went to another show and people were asking me for a picture and there was somebody else on stage that would make me feel really really rude you know so like a restaurant it's not that people ask me if a picture bothers me it's just I don't want to be standing up causing a scene now I'm the center of attention yeah I don't like that so you know when you go like I'm not going to meet a girl at the bar you've into losers and duck blind with me and we sit on the back deck away from everybody you know kind

of hiding oh dude one night i sat out there by myself uh on losers back porch and i was watching netflix back there yeah just watching two i watched two episodes of something yeah why not

it's it's it's tough is it cake i think it was yeah i feel like if i could be in one place for a while like live somewhere that's another thing i don't feel like i live anywhere i've got a house in nashville and i'll stay there every once in a while i got a farm in alabama have you always

felt like that well you must not your farm must feel like some type of way to you but have you always felt like you didn't live somewhere uh it's kind of interesting feeling bro i've never heard anybody say that and i relate to that 100 yeah i've never really felt like i lived somewhere

well my farm is like by the time i get there i'm already thinking about i gotta leave again like i'm there for two or three days that's not long enough to really get settled in you don't really know which way to go while you're there uh but no when i was doing construction work playing shows on the weekends I'd be home every night like that was nah that was that's always felt like home to me but right now I just don't live in one place you know I'm flying to LA every week and on the road on the weekends

but if you think if you keep it like that though then you're do you think that there's a possibility that something could change that you could like you know meet somebody start a family with that type of lifestyle no

not the way it is now yeah it's gonna have to change in the sense of like well you talked about you're coming off tour and not knowing what to do with yourself I've gotta get to that point I would love to try to get bored of being at home i just i can't remember the last time i had a week off you know i mean maybe around christmas yeah uh but i played shows until january i mean december 27th last year you know so i mean it's it's uh if i could and right now i could go take a month off i could but i just can't with everything going on and the opportunities i've got i can't make myself do it so i'm sort of like grind right now keep my nose down say yes to everything and and then in a couple of years things will stop doing this no kind of playing off and i'll have this career and i'll say all right i'm gonna play 40 or 60 shows a year i might film a little tv show or a movie or whatever and then i can have a life outside of it you know but it's just tough to do right now

but do you start to think about trying to because yeah because here's the thing like EDI There will always be probably, I don't know if there will always be opportunities, but there's always like things you can say yes to, you know? Like, are you at a spot where you can kind of couture it a little bit more and kind of shape it how you want it?

I am, yeah.

Are you still in a space where there's a little bit of fear of like, fuck, if I don't do this stuff, you know?

The really fortunate thing I've got going on is right now my career is in such an upward slant that the things I'm getting asked to do, I can't say no to.

Wow.

They're hosting CMA Fest or being a coach on The Voice. I mean, you got to think there's one country music artist that's a coach on the boys. That's a good point, man. I mean, like, Blake Shelton, Reba's been on there. Like, it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and you got to think about all the people in country music that are so lucky to be where they are and have the careers they are, and they don't even have that opportunity.

Yeah.

You know, so—

Did you have to audition for that opportunity?

They met with me, and I sort of told them that, you know, they were considering me. I sort of told them that I got what they wanted, and they want somebody that's sort of funny, sort of dry, that cuts up, and they came to a show and I had a little Q&A with somebody beforehand and we cut up back and forth and then I went on Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon and they got me on the couch and we had a little duck call moment that was funny and that's how I got the job just goofing off, doing this

yeah, does that feel like I don't know, I mean it's just interesting because it's kind of a mainstream thing but it's also a thing that kind of like you're saying yeah, like eternal like it like kind of makes you eternal in a way it like kind of puts you in a different perspective

it's very household right and it's very outside of the genre of country so you know i would guess that most of my fans are country music fans you know i can tell and i could tell it from the first day of filming i'm the least famous person as a coach on the voice right now with the people that are fans of the voice kelly clarkson's been on it forever adam levine's been on it forever queen Latifah's on it with me and she's iconically famous you know so the fact that I can tell I'm not as well known in that world only tells me how much I'll gain from it because it's putting me in front of so many different people

you know did you ask somebody like do I think this is oh how fast does a chair go

I mean a little about like you would turn normally in an office chair if somebody said hey look at this Native American dog

you know what I mean get ready with me while Look at this Native American dog.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

But it's not going to throw you out of the chair. Yeah.

Okay, got it. If you had someone sit on your lap, would it turn slower? You think it would turn the same amount?

I think it's got enough power. You could have two people on your lap, and it wouldn't change the speed. I think you go much over that. You're going to—the ball bearings issue, I imagine. I don't know. You know?

What was the idea, dude? I remember we talked one night about this for a few minutes. You said you had a different idea for how the chair could work.

that would be interesting what was it i can't remember i think the chair should start facing the contestant yes and then you turn away when you don't like it okay now what would be tough about that is you're going to be looking at them yeah so you know like they're going to take it it's personal yeah because the surprise when you turn you know sometimes people don't look like they sound you know uh or it's not who or what you think it is right so there's a little more

of a reveal there but there'd also be a neat reveal if you turned away and you're like you

You're sitting there and they're singing and they're just singing their little heart out here.

You know what I mean?

You just turn and face. Because here's the thing. Yes, that would be awkward for a split second.

Yeah.

Because you'd be making eye contact when you press a button and turn away but then you're facing the other way, you're good.

Yeah.

Problem with what we're doing now is I'm facing away and then when I turn to them or don't turn, they still turn your chair and then you got to explain to them why you didn't turn.

Yeah. Oh.

It's tough.

Have you guys started filming it?

Mm-hmm.

And do you have like total carte blanche on what you think? Like do they,

or is it it's it's completely unscripted uh they don't even tell you like what might be coming up next and we would do like 18 people a day i think and it's a long day we get there at nine leave it like nine at night uh we're done with the blind auditions now but that was it's not it's not that hard to do because it is it's this you know you're just cutting up it does get tough to find new things to say when somebody's not quite oh yeah dude i could imagine that it's hard to think of anything well yeah if you're trying to think musically there's only so many terms you know and and i'm sitting here and i'm like i don't want to say the same thing over and over again but sometimes a lot of it is just nerves a lot of it i've heard people that are you can tell really talented singers but they come on there and it's a very awkward thing you got chairs facing away from me the lights are on us on camera it's on television there's an audience there and then they start singing and they're really winded which is a nerve thing you know you can't catch their breath and then by the end they'll they'll get it going you know but dang it's a it's a yeah i mean it's people's dreams there you know and we're trying to make it fun and make good television out of it but that there's also a lot of really great stories that come out of it i'm sure i'm excited about getting to work with the artists and all that dude i was staying at

hotel I went like whenever they had the freeze in Nashville when everything got frozen or whatever you know yeah um I had been at the UFC that weekend and the freeze was like coming on Monday and everybody like wasn't sure what was gonna happen you know because you don't know if it's gonna be how bad it's gonna be and so I was like well I'm just gonna get out of town I was like I'm just gonna go to uh so I went to Hawaii for a few days because like it was like it's not gonna freeze there right not gonna freeze it was one place that had good weather so I was like I'm out and i went with like a security guy so i had somebody to go with me right because i was just going to be out there by myself and he and i stayed at this place and like it was all like people that was like getting married or whatever you know and then just me and him meeting like like we had like five like romantic like nice damn like candlelit dinners it's just fucking me yeah just me and him dude but your shoes light up dude get ready with me uh no his shoes didn't light up, dude. Mine didn't either.

Okay, hold on. This is a good game show. I don't want to do this on a side note, but what if you had shoes that were like a mood ring? Yes. So when you're fairly into somebody, think about how easy dating would be then. Shoes are just flashing red or green, I guess, would be like. And she's like, oh, he likes me.

And what if hers are like flashing, just not flashing? And hers are just indifferent.

No, you need to, like, really not into you needs to be a color red, probably, right? Or hers start making

that back up sound like when big trucks back up yeah and she just starts moving yeah

yeah

oh god we should have that

dude we have freaking so much stuff so however mood ring works is like the heat or blood flow whatever your feet have to have the same thing yeah 100% well yeah you might not be able to wear socks with them but big deal you know some people say your feet like are like the the hands of your leg yeah no they say that yeah dude the hands of your leg is what is that what you meant

yeah the eyes are the brains of the face yeah from a visual aspect yeah yeah i mean from all of it um but no dude that's exactly what i'm

saying but no i think the ears are the elbow of your head that's crazy come on dude think about

it nuh-uh i'm not thinking about any more stuff what are we talking about huh we were talking about anything you were doing good have you been in here what was that what we have what were we

talking about it was pretty good no you were talking about uh look dude this whole thing is

We're just running a sting operation on the neighbors, okay? That's all this is about.

He's home.

Yeah. He's home. Let's go. No, I was just going to think. Yeah, what were we talking about? I want to get through that one idea. Did we get through any ideas on this?

You know, I've had a good time. Do you think that the guy back there knows what's going on? Is he like, hey, you were talking about this?

Dude, he sat in here with so many types of people. Sometimes it's one way. I'll say this. Trevin, do you feel like you ever know how one of these conversations is going to go?

Never know, man. What bothers me about it is I feel like I should be able to retrace my steps to why I was talking about light-up shoes. Oh, you're going to dinner with your security guard.

Oh. Romantic dinner. And this is what happened. And so right next door, and they were doing the show that Luke Bryan is on.

America's Got Talent.

America's Got Talent.

American Idol.

American Idol.

With respect.

And he even called it America's Got Talent once. And I corrected it. Really? Yes. But now other people are correcting me because I caught it from him.

Yeah.

But what I'm saying is, yeah, we're sitting there, and right there they had the show. Anyway, it was just kind of interesting because for five days we watched them tape this thing right there on the beach.

Yeah.

You know?

Luke was in Hawaii?

Yeah. It was nice. I got to see him. I got to meet him. Oh, wait, I met him before. Oh, we went fishing like a couple weeks ago at his place.

He loves to fish, hunt, golf, and drink.

Dude, I'll say this. he's one of the

what he does he loves that

what do you think he likes to fish golf and drink

fish hunt golf and drink he loves to do those things

how do you know that

he's wrote a song about it

no he didn't

yeah it's called I think it's called fish hunt golf drink and what else

and something else

no no no just those things

oh that's it

yeah you can play it if you want

is it good it's called

what kind of question is that it's country classic I imagine

get ready with me while I listen to this

get ready with me while I go fish hunt. Now, what would you wear for that?

Fish hunt, golf, drink? Dude, I'd fucking...

You don't have to play it right now.

No, we don't have to play it.

Just put it on here.

We'll play it in our imaginations.

I'll play it in the car on the way home. What about that? No, he gave me credit for him writing that song. He gave you credit? Or he blamed me, one of the two. Oh, he did? Yeah. I don't even know that. He texted me and said that we need to get together. It had been too long. And he said, fish, hunt, golf, drink. Oh, nice, dude. So I was not there. I didn't write the song. It had nothing to do with the song. I didn't even say that's a cool text or you should write a song. I didn't have nothing to do with it. So I want to say that while we're here.

Well, I'm going to read some of it right here.

Do me a favor. Read it like stand-up poetry.

I have not heard this song.

Okay, well, so just. You know, like put a little feeling behind it, some passion.

Wake up, coffee, camo, climb tree, wet line, 18.

So you said wake up, coffee, like you were saying, like good morning, moon, or good night, moon. You did it like that. That was cool. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Wake up, coffee, camo, climb tree, wet line, 18, fish hunt, golf drink. All fall, all spring, all summer long, I'll be living it up and living it on. a country boy's dream fish hunt golf drink i like it it's a haiku it's got a little bit of the like

the caterpillar book to it it's got a hit of the tism have you ever read uh children's books huh like i mean out loud like for audiobook you'd be great at that yeah thanks man fish hunt golf drink

fish hunt golf drink i wouldn't mind that i'm trying to think well i don't need to be drinking but fishing i would love to go i'm gonna take you duck hunting this year will you really yeah

You just got to like, I know that you're as bad as me about scheduling stuff, but I'm not going through management to do it. So I'll just text you and be like, hey, man, I got these days.

You was a busy guy. You were down in Pensacola. You were going to somewhere else, Barbados or something.

What?

Yeah.

I don't think I've been to Barbados, man.

Yeah. Well, I guess you didn't go then.

I'm going to Saskatchewan.

Oh, are you going there? Yeah. She was making up names of places. It's a windy city.

Is that how you say it?

No, that's a real place. Saskatchewan? It's in Canada. No, it's beautiful up there. I've been up there. is that next to Ed's what's the one next to Edmonton is that

the Big Apple

no it's not the Big

Edmonton yeah

that's what they

you don't know I mean yeah what they call it there

bro I didn't know you were so funny dude I thought

I've been trying to tell you no I was honestly going to tell you how funny I was at my birthday party when you just got two pieces of cake and ran out the door

fuck you dude I didn't even want to go he literally

I saw his back he was eating cake

dude I came to your party you hated it no seriously

thanks for coming

I'm out of here thank you

no thank you for coming

I left because you weren't having fun

Dude, you wouldn't. And also. No, here's the thing. You came to my surprise party and you didn't even want to be there. That's how bad it was. You were downstairs sitting by yourself in the back deck of losers. And you're like, I'd rather be down there than in this room with these people in this celebration.

Dude, I was watching a series. I was on the third episode.

Yeah.

You know, it's like people are trying their best. You know, not everything's going to be just for you, Riley.

You know what would be really fun? Is if you did a get ready with me to go to my birthday party.

Man, I ain't doing all that shit, bro. You got me messed up.

Let's do one get ready with me. You got me messed up, slime. I'll pick what yours is. You can pick what mine is.

Nah, bro, we can't do a damn get ready with me? Yeah. Oh, that might not be a bad idea, really, if we thought of some good ones, dude. Wonder what yours would be, dude. Get ready with me while I go be an asshole somewhere. That's what I would pick, dude. I swear. But what would you pick for mine, though?

get ready with me while I go to the pound and try to find a Native American dog.

And I would bring, like, some sage or something with me?

I feel like you would go to a dog park and be like, so is this a Native American dog park? Like, is it just all regular dogs? Or is there any dogs that are... There's, like, a burial ground there or something?

Maybe I would.

That's a talent to ask weird questions, though, to be able to come up with them. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I guess. I don't know, man. I don't have a ton. Like, a lot of times it's just like, you know, we're going to catch up. you know i know that you have a lot going on in your life so it was i was glad to get to catch up and yeah i mean doing the something like the voice it feels like a big change because it's like um you know you have this kind of like you're you're a country musician you're respected by people in that world and you've had a lot of success in it and and then you kind of there's something that's a bit more of a like a commercial appeal which is awesome and i understand like you're you understand and i understand like your perspective on it and i don't know i just think it's interesting you know it's interesting how things come along in life because some people probably say no to things some people probably say yes to things well the interesting thing about

a career like we've got is you're kind of in charge of how successful you can be i mean yeah things have to go well people have to like whatever art you create where there's comedy music whatever but like if you don't go do the stuff you're not going to get the opportunity and i can't tell you how many things i've gone and done that necessarily on paper were not going to be beneficial or financially worth doing but there was an opportunity there that led to something else that led to something else that's how the voice was uh all the acting stuff that i've been able to do so far and you know i mean think about stand-up comedians how many of them that are you know household names have been really successful only have done stand-up they've all acted or been on some other platform saturday night live whatever even the even the like guys that were just great stand-up guys like eddie murphy and dave chapelle and they all had other avenues after well I mean yeah you almost know Eddie Murphy better now for his acting and you know that's a great stand up comedian so

I bet a lot Richard Pryor yeah I bet there's a lot of people that wouldn't know that he was a stand-up comedian.

That's what I mean. And if you didn't get your start on Saturday Night Live, that's kind of how you branch out and do something else. Because I feel like comedy would probably be much worse because you have to come up with so much more material. Whereas music, you can now about tour for a year off of it and still play some of those songs for years to come. But you have to be a whole lot more creative regularly in comedy. But if that's all you did, it would get really monotonous after a while. You'd get tired of it. The only time I ever got tired of music was 2014, 15, 16 in there, and I was playing the same clubs, same venues over and over again, playing the same songs, and it got to be where I just didn't look forward to it. As long as things are growing, you can find other things.

Was there ever a tour that you did that you got asked to go on that you just chose not to? Are there different tours that you get asked to do? How often does that happen with artists?

I've been really fortunate that I've had a pretty good touring business for the last 10 years. So I have to turn down some tours because I can make more money touring on my own. Plus, I feel like there's a little bit of if you get caught in that opening act role, it's hard to get out of it. If you never go, because what's open for somebody is great because one, you got guaranteed money. If it snows and the venue shuts down, you still get paid. You don't have to pay for production, catering, anything like that. So there's no overhead and you get in front of new fans. So it's a great way to get some exposure. but if you don't go play your own show, you're not building a fan base. Because people have to be there to see you. So for me, I always, if I went open for somebody and played a stadium or an arena, I'd go back and play a club there, you know, after and try to get the most out of it if I could. But yeah, I don't do any real open slots anymore. So it's nice.

Yeah. Yeah, oh, I mean, it's definitely nice. And sometimes I forget about the work that I have done. I forget about all the spots that I played. I forget about all the time I put in on things.

So you get there and you remember something about the backstage of the green room looks familiar. Like, oh, I've been here. Yeah. Happens to me all the time.

Yeah. Right now you have the Cowboy As It Gets tour. Who's working with you on it?

Justin Moore, Randy Houser. Oh, nice. A guy named Drake White, Hannah McFarlane, Mackenzie Carpenter. I kind of try to have a parade of first of four and second of four guys and girls just because I like having people out that, you know give them an opportunity to get in front of a bunch of fans I'm really fortunate that all these shows are selling out we got big crowds that's so cool dude yeah man

god I wish I could freaking sing you freak sorry they're a pretty good

turkey call though

yeah but all I'm gonna be yeah but I ain't meeting you know what I'm saying but a turkey call

I saw you sing my song

oh you're gonna meet with Ella you sang at the stagecoach oh yeah dude

I missed it we got there the next day I think

oh I thought you were there

winded out we didn't get to play

I thought you were there yeah dude that was great bro you tell me you're nervous yes i was freaking nervous dude that's

such a that's such a well it was i was such an easy song in the sense of the crowd knows every word and the talking verses and all that you know it's a little easier to do but i'll bring people

up out of the crowd to do it sometime oh you will yeah oh dude that's cool bro yeah well the tough part was like i knew the song but then when you have a responsibility to do the words you're like you know it kind of sets you like all right now i have like i gotta do the responsibility thinking about it right yeah and then uh the craziest part this part was kind of funny my uh my buddy we wrote the call the notes down all the words on the cards we wrote the words on the cards on a poster boards and um and so he's staying in there with him by the side of the stage just in case right yeah and then but i didn't need him i started doing good in my brain and I didn't need him. And so he starts shaking the card. Like he's getting pissed and I'm not looking at the cards.

Because he made these cards, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, dude, I don't need him. Yeah, you're here for living happy that you didn't need him.

Right, you should have just been- That was a little selfish of him. He should have been ripping him up and throwing him in the air or something. But he's sitting there like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and just giving me like a bunch of grief or whatever. You know, just like a bunch of poster board grief or whatever. And so, yeah, I don't know. That was kind of a lot. But, oh, and then it was windy and my hat kept coming off and I kept having- cowboy hat on yeah i kept having to get it and i was like dang i wish they made a really heavy hat

or a could have went that route a chin strap yeah come on a cowboy hat come on man you think i'm gonna wear a cowboy hat with a chin strap on it desperate times man uh i can't i can't read lyrics you're hilarious and saying you know what you can't what i can't read lyrics and sing i've got to just know it you know like a teleprompter or whatever i can't oh yeah and so if i look out in the crowd and read a sign or something while I'm, I just, I'll forget who I am. It messed me all up. I can't read anything. I can't look at anybody's sign in the crowd when I'm singing.

Well, it's two different things, totally. I would rather know, I would rather just guess than be reading something, you know.

know just take my chances with whatever is going to come up in my brain but which could be anything yeah which is kind of the best thing your brain is just sometimes it is yeah it's like a glass of champagne some bubble just comes right up and that's a new idea or something like that i love that that's my favorite thing about being alive is just seeing kind of what comes out of your brain you know yeah and other people's brains i think it's interesting but yeah man it was i felt lucky to get to do y'all's songs so yeah i was cool i gotta see some clips of it you did good i was happy to get to do it oh dude once i got out there and and realized that i could sing it was over

dude i was like i was a i was a singer we'll find one you can do with me and we'll you come out to

show we'll get you out to do one yep i like that get ready with me get ready with me to go sing with riley green tonight there we go dude um you have your new album it's out on the 18th yep that's September 18th that's just me you have three singles that are already out from it

yes sir

excellent and and the Big Is It Gets Tour no Cowboy Is It Gets Tour

just wait on the slide it'll be easy I'm Riley Green and it's the Cowboys It Gets Tour in 2026

you know what this is like this is like honestly when you're having a rocky day at work and one of your boys shows up and helps you out

I thought that's what this is

oh that's exactly what I'm saying yeah that's exactly what this is so thank you bro

yeah

thank you for showing up

you know if you ever need me to come in when you got somebody cool here that you're doing I can just sit on the couch and you know what I mean just help

dude just come and do my part

yeah

dude you're good at this man you're really good at this bro

I watched your show this past weekend with Theo Vaughn I watched it

I appreciate that man

say some creative stuff on here yeah

we have over time you know sometimes it's hit on

it's not all gold but man if you sit here and talk for what two hours there's bound to be something funny in there

oh there's fun stuff man i mean i don't know it's been interesting sometimes you find different things sometimes you learn stuff sometimes you don't learn stuff no i enjoy that it's uh there's some seriousness in there you know oh yeah i mean sometimes you get a lot more serious it just kind of depends you know i think i can't tell if it has to do with my energy or it has to do with the gas energy it's probably just both of us and whatever's going on you know well i feel like

there's a lot of places where me and you are in a similar spot with life outside of our careers.

Yeah.

You know,

so maybe we didn't talk about that enough. We did. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. But we can do like a real deep thing. You know, we'll just share one mic and sit Indian style on the floor with just candles and do it.

You know what I mean? Oh, I know what I'll bring my Indian dog with me.

If you can get your hands on one.

Yeah. There's one out there. Riley Greenman. Thanks so much, bro. Thanks for the music. Thanks for the entertainment Thanks for the entertainment today, dude You're a funny guy, bro I didn't realize that And I know that's a weird thing to say to somebody else But thanks for making me laugh That's what I mean I appreciate it, bro Appreciate you, man

That was fun

And congrats on all the success And I'll have to get out there and check out one of the shows this year

The Biggest It Gets Tour

You're going to some good spots Cowboys and goods God Yeah I'll be out there Riley Green, ladies and gentlemen Thank you, brother Appreciate it, man Yep

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