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Today's guest is a stand-up comedian. His origins are mysterious, yes. But you'll know him from his wildly popular Kill Tony appearances. He's on the road now. You can see him live. There's no one like him. There's no one like him. I had a great time with today's guest, the Sultan of Riff, Mr. Casey Rocket. Sometimes I can't tell if I'm having like male hot flashes or whatever. Sure. Men of a certain age. Every age. Every age maybe. Men of a certain age being the spectrum of all ages. Dude, I think these days things have gotten crazy. You'll see a little kid having a hot flash or whatever. he'll be like you know you'll see a little kid is like go like just looking from like a a faucet people are like they're people are trying to do anything they can to cool these kids off yeah yeah to help to help themselves sure yeah a spigot you'll see people doing like the the level we've gotten to in a society of trying to help ourselves is crazy it's like people are playing like a lot of like certain hertz of sounds that is supposed to like you know help you pass old uh trauma or help you uh you know uh win the lottery like there's a lot like there's a lot of megahertz that's variable for different options you know yeah yeah there's all kinds of sounds that can

help you win the lottery um i'm the first to admit that yeah so certain like total certain like tonal shifts so if you go like low like you'll win what is it like 10 to 20 grand yes so but the higher ones they get dangerous for your like what do they call it like um

terminal mental velocity yeah yeah well when people win too much money it induces a lot i think it's called high dollar trauma or something hdt and you you will see people with that like rich people or whatever and they're suddenly eating like rare cheeses cheeses made from you know obviously that you know cultivated or pasteurized in the tiers of the poor and young

yes well what did they say it's like old money at the poverty line so it's like la la by way of new york so the lower the cheese is on like a vibrational frequency the higher the dollar amount you don't have to pay it's like a tax write-off yeah yeah oh definitely if you get because there's

somebody running around with a 425 megahertz queso dip right now i know there's a truck that just stalled out on the way to the hamptons it was full of it and uh the engine just could not function like that yeah i think when you're pushing that much high dollar dairy and you're pulling it behind you and you have a fucking probably a seventh or eighth grade reading level

driver sure yeah the polarity there is just not healthy and it's like where does the buck stop The buck stops when the truck stops, as they say.

Yeah, dude. That's how it should be. God, if queso made us freaking smarter, God, can you even imagine?

Can you imagine the mental bandwidth I would have right now? Because I had all queso breakfast. Did you? Yeah. So frozen solid liquid, yeah. Oh, wow. So you get like, what is it, like a fudge pop of like frozen queso fresco. And then you go like, okay, you go chili con carne. um pure liquid so you leave that on the dashboard and then you go with the gas which is um just like

a handful of like ritz and those are so good and what i've also heard is that they have those new queso whippets or whatever like a whippet like pimento cheese whippets and you fucking galaxy

gas yeah yeah you hit a couple of those brother oh i got a stomach ache oh you'll get sick yeah Yeah, you're left to shit. You'll have to poop. Yeah, it's bad for your appendix. Yeah.

Oh, these days your appendix will burst or a rich person will hire you to burst your appendix so they don't have to.

Sure. Yeah, they'll tether you up. That's what happened to Duff McKagan from Guns N' Roses. He accidentally tethered to himself. Yeah. We've been dancing with Mr. Brownstone.

God, dude. Too much of a good thing. Too much dashboard. Queso. That's our band name.

Like the string cheese incident. Oh, God, dude. I used to follow widespread some, did you? Really? Yeah. I think I know, well, not widespread, but I know someone in the Testeghi Trucks band. Do you? Dwayne. Johnson? Allman. Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Dwayne Allman.

Yeah. I've always wanted a last name that was a nut. Bring him up, Dwayne Allman. Peter Pistachio?

Or a pea, or like Ronnie Garbanzo or whatever, like a bean maybe. Yeah. Wait, is Dwayne Allman dead? Oh, no, he died in 1971. Who have I been talking to? Oh, dude, it's probably one of those Nigerian scammers. He's like, hey, I want to teach you steel guitar. And I'm like, great. That sounds great. Melissa. Melissa. What's the catch? I'm going to teach you how to play southbound. All right. Casey Rocket, good to see you, man. Good to see you. Thank you for making me laugh.

Thanks for talking K-So. Oh, yeah, dude. It's almost, well, I misread your name earlier, and that's what even had me thinking about it. I thought it was Queso Rocket.

Sure, yeah. Queso Object Permanence Rocket. There should be, like, a Latino version of you that comes out named Queso Rocket. And I go, this person's an imposter. And he's like, no, I'm not. Huh? He's all liquid. So sick. Oh, God, I hope we're okay. Me too. A riff like that will make you start questioning, like, your purpose in the world. Yeah, things get rough, dude.

Well, I was, it reminded me, it took me to a place when I went to see, I went and we watched, it was at a music festival one weekend. It was in New Orleans. It's called Jazz and Heritage Festival. It's every year. And it's, they had, who was playing? the guy shit

some guy that was gonna die soon and was that so was that the general consensus or you like retroactively you were like he was about to die I mean

he would have like he was out there but his kid was singing with him kind of you know like when they get the kids out there and he's sitting over there and somebody just kind of spraying water on him almost like he's like one of those Indian plants or whatever that

Like, David Allen Coe. That happened with Ozzy, too. They, like, hooked him up to a life support machine. I was there. I was in Birmingham. I saw Ozzy's last concert. Were you really? Yeah. And did they, like, was he on an IV and stuff while he was up there? Yeah, he was in, like, a UV light. Oh, really? Yeah, they had him in, like, it was, like, a makeshift, like, final destination tanning machine. So it was, like, but it was, like, pointed outward so he didn't have to be laying down. But, see, so that is a tanning bed. You can see the blue. Yeah, it helped him like – he had like photosynthesis. It made him like effervescent.

I mean that's the darkest tanning bet you can get. They're like, how dark do you want to go? It's like we offer like, you know, Pensacola, Alabama, Tri-Delta, Pensacola Beach. Or we also can go all the way. We can do Ozzy's last show dark.

We could do South Padre Island or you in a casket. So that, they're actually pointing an EMP at him That's a sound weapon So he has Havana syndrome Oh yeah

Oh yeah dude And he's just singing that song San Juan Mi hijo Have you seen those freaking TikToks Dude, it's like It's a bunch of people that can't read And they're going to Puerto Rico or whatever And so they made a song about it Have you seen that Trevin? I have not, what was the song? San Juan? it's like it's a lot of people that are in trouble reading and writing who refuse to teach their kids

that are reading right because they can't right sure well that's a good reason for not doing it

yeah i agree but for years people have been pretending they can and then they show the kid and that's like trickle down ignoromics right sure it's reagan started it and that's the kind of shit that we don't need in the community so a lot of them are going to san juan and they're doing this song on the way there to gain points with their lord okay and then when they land hopefully they

have enough like spiritual um savings account to not go bankrupt yeah yeah to get a carlos and

charlie shirt on the way home can you bring it up you haven't seen this thing dude no i don't even know if we can play this or not hopefully it's not copyrighted i think it was oh ai made the song

that was the craziest thing about it this is it oh okay so i am into stuff like this yeah

have you heard this no so it's Basically, it's music pretty much for the learning disabled, okay? Which is where we are. There's a whole new genre of music for the learning disabled. Sure, it helps with, like, shapes and colors. Well, we thought for years they were listening to what we were listening to, right? And finally, people were like, no, they need their own music. Play a little more. Play a little. Just keep going.

The whole plane clapped when we landed.

In the boot scootin' boogie. Yeah, so it's like spiritual dyslexia.

Yes. Well, that's exactly what it is. And I think it's, I want to say it's Baptist-based. I'm not sure. But is there some...

Well, you can see kind of like the proving ground of like the Pentecostal religion as well. You can see some of that seeping into the groundwater.

Oh, it's, you know, sometimes you wake up and your legs are all soggy and you're like, you know. How do I drive these puppies out? Who did this? Who did this and why? Who did this and why? Because I used to always know someone would pee in my bed every night, and it wasn't me. Mm-mm. How could it be?

Dude, it couldn't have been that many times? Mm-mm. No, once or twice you go, all right, I've been making some mistakes. Yeah, yeah. Four, five, ten times. You get up to double digits, you go, like, I'm being persecuted. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm being gang-stalked by a bunch of pissers.

Yeah, dude. It's obvious that they're sneaking in through our broken window downstairs near the kitchen.

Yeah.

They're coming up. They're pissing on your boy. Okay.

I've talked to the landlord. He won't answer. It goes to Melor Damon. Yeah, dude.

Every time I call the landlord, it goes to a front desk of Christian Dior somewhere. So they have no clue what we're talking about.

No. They go, first of all, how can you smell through the phone? I don't know. You tell me he was pissing my bed, and I'll answer your little inquiry. They're like, we could replace the sheets. That'll be $1,100.

And you're like, god damn.

I'll just sit here in poverty and piss. I'll sit here in the potty bed I made. A water bed full of piss.

Oh, dude, that. That is what we need is. Yeah. This is where we're going to get to. Because the society is getting weird. Can we agree? Sure. I'm the first. I'm the second to admit that. You were the first, yeah. Okay. And I'm glad we're here. And I'm glad we're here. and society is getting weird. People are not wearing gloves anymore when they drive. Yeah. Okay? I saw an animal the other day, no hoofs on his feet. Okay. Yeah. What happened to the nuclear family? It's a big question, dude. I saw two gay men. They were wearing dog collars. Dog sitting there smoking in the car by himself. Windows up.

Yeah. Ruins the resale value.

It's just nobody. i don't know if people don't care or if they've taken our ability to care away

yeah if it is endemic of a greater social sociopolitical problem or if it's engendered

upon the human race in general yeah because that's a big question because the first thing you would take away from somebody is their ability to care yes yeah because it leaves you in a spot

you know yeah well the one true export of all of the maleficence of consciousness is hope without faith god that gives me the shivers that's so scary so people are now dogs without nails god and they still think they're scratching each other's backs no they were born on third

base and they thought they hit a triple yeah it's a different time man the zygotes are different yeah I'll say that. Sure. Have you seen a CAT scan of a woman's belly recently?

Isn't it like a recent, like an up-to-date CAT scan? I've been looking at like old ones to see how the technology has progressed. One woman. One woman.

One woman had a Frisbee and an eight ball in there. Oh, no. That was it. Yeah. So whatever is living in there or part-time or whatever is keeping its luggage there. Sure. Okay, obviously.

likes to party at the park you know i'm party that was a great wcw pay-per-view the party at the park was that was that one i know they did the bash at the beach so i could only hope that

they did the party at the park oh i hope they did too and it was like kind of a it was a beautiful day it was by a river right they hung like a uh briefcase full of the world's like the finest charcuterie board in the world right they hung the finest charcuterie board in the world up and you had to climb up a ladder, right? And then you had to get three strong kids, and you had to climb up one of their backs, right? And you didn't know which one, and the winner got it. You didn't know which one had the best back. Yeah, because they kept their shirts on. So it's purely intuition. And also, if you're standing there, intuitioning which kid has a nice back, dude, if you do it too strong,

you go to jail right so it would take you longer to get to the charcuterie yeah and if you do it too long also booker t is gonna hit you with a chair so it's yeah that was like a good thought experiment that was like the stanford prison experiment in action oh it's where we are um

casey rocket dude good to see you man good to see you happy to be here it's awesome dude you're such a talent and it's great to just see you like in the wild you were in huntington last night i saw Yeah, I was in Huntsville. Or Huntsville, yeah. They keep changing the fucking name. I know. Because they're trying to avoid the IRS or whatever.

Yeah. I actually, it's funny. Before I came here, I took a shower, a Gregorian, Greco-Roman shower, which is, of course, a cheese Danish that I put in a bunch of socks, and I kind of strain it out over my head. But I wrote on my hand last night, I don't know why, but I wrote Santa Cruz or Santa Fe, one of the Santas. So that doesn't really answer your question, but I did just look at my hand. But if the question was, did you just look at your hand, the answer is yes. Okay. Yeah, I was in Huntsville at Levity Live. That was great. Oh, yeah.

The stage, the location from the stage to the audience, it has a unique ratio there. Do you feel that there? I do. Like the height of the stage and the ratio of the audience is very rare there.

It is. it is quite unusual actually the heliums aren't set up like that even you know zany's nashville zany's chicago zany's rosemont's kind of like that is it slower to the ground having spent time

out there i would love to get out there or um i'm not allowed to go i i shouldn't be there i don't think but okay one day i will go when my mom passes sure i'm gonna i'm gonna get out there because she would want me to see it, you know, that's why.

She'd want you, yeah, to see how they make the spaceships. They do the spaceships there. She would want me to see it, man. Lockheed Martin. Oh, is that where they're based? Yeah, Lockheed Martin there, that's where they reverse engineer the anti-gravity technology, so.

Uh-uh.

Apparently, that's where some of the scientists are going missing, you know, those scientists. Oh, is that where that's happening, really? In Rosemont? Yeah, one of them went the way of the dodo. Not Rosemont at Huntsville. Oh, and that's where those scientists have gone missing out in Huntsville? So one of them in particular, she did go the way of the Dodo. She did take an early exit. But, yeah, they're being missing all over the place.

It's crazy, dude. From MIT to MIA, bro, that's the craziest. At least 10 individuals connected to sensitive U.S. aerospace, nuclear, and defense research have died or disappeared recently. That's two different things, though. Disappearing.

Yeah. That gives me more pause that we're a part of some like greater like neo-noir detective thing. Them just dying.

I mean, people die every day. People die every day. Yeah, William Neal McCaslin, a retired U.S. Air Force major general. He vanished from his New Mexico home in February 2026, leaving his phone and identification behind. Well, Santa Claus or Santa Fe, dude, that takes you back to that question, man. That's a tough one. Sure.

Yeah. Well, somebody let the door open and the wrong dogs came home.

You know what I mean? Yeah, dude. Oh, I know who it was. It was some of those piss warriors from frickin' Christian Dior probably pulled up and wet that dude down a little. You create enough of a stream in the kitchen, a senior's going to fuck. Flash flood. Oh, a senior does not stand a chance against a flash flood, and I'll say that out loud, brother. I'll run into a damn vineyard vines and scream that.

Sure, and I'll be receptive to it the whole time.

Yeah, yeah.

I'll be sitting there, back there with a good book, just going, God dang. He's right.

He's right. You'll poke your head out of a changing room and be like, all right. Never had a chance.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know if I can never had a chance, bro.

Yeah, if you slick somebody up, like, and I've said this for months. I was there when you said it. Yeah, if you slick somebody up good enough, anything can be a slip and slide. So a staircase, most homes have a staircase. So if they're slick enough, bye, bye-bye. Bye. Grandpa!

And he's gone. You can barely even, you know. Or you try to use his real name, then Henry, you know. Like, that's the craziest thing. Now, a black grandpa, they'll mill around a little, but even the stream's even going to get them, you know, you would think. Sure.

Well, yeah, they, you know, they're probably more worldly, and they'll see the stream maybe before the white grandpa, but either way, when the flood comes, come on. You don't stand a chance, baby. That's the Bible working. That's Noah. The piss flood. That's it, brother. Drip, drip. It's scary to think about. It's scary to think about, dude. You're living in Chicago now, huh?

Yeah, I moved from Austin in December. I lived in St. Louis for six months, and now I've been settling in Chicago.

How's it been there?

it's been good they have a hot dog culture that is out of this world um relish mustard the works oh yeah and the people have been treating me with grace and kindness and i in turn have been

passing on to them a smile very fair yeah did you miss austin when you left what what what was the reason uh of leaving austin because you were things were going good there right sure yeah

Yeah, I worked at Mothership for a year, and I won the equivalent. I won the Austins, not the funniest person, but the Austin comedy competition. So, yeah, I was really ingrained in the scene there. And that was 2021, was it, or no? When I won that, I moved there in 2021, and I think I won that in 2023, maybe.

Okay.

But, yeah, I have a lot of really great friends there. I felt like maybe it was time for me to do something else. I'm going to grad school, so you wrote me a letter of recommendation for that. And I'm going to DePaul to do screenwriting. So I just wanted to make some changes in my life, yeah. That's wild, dude. Congratulations, man. Thanks. On getting in over there. Are you excited about it? I am. It starts in September, and then I'm going to write my great American novel.

Dude. Yep. Is there a novel that you kind of were inspired by? Like, was there a novel that you kind of read that led you to even kind of spark that in your head? or a book that you read that kind of sparked that in your head? Because I think, like, I like to write, so I think there's things in, like, there was one book I read and I was like, huh.

Yeah, there's some good, like, memoir-type books that I really liked. One of them is a book called Permanent Midnight by a guy named Jerry Stahl that they made in two-movie with Ben Stiller. Another great one is Sing Backwards and Weep by Mark Lanigan, who used to be the lead singer of The Screaming Trees. Oh, wow. So, yeah, some memoirs, And then a lot of, like, screenplays, like, obviously, I'm a big fan, as most people are, of Paul Thomas Anderson, who did Magnolia and One Battle After Another. PTA. PTA. Yeah. So, yeah, I love movies, and I like movies, and I'm just as happy with a good book. I can't stress that enough. But, yeah, I want to learn how to, like, write screenplays and stuff like that, and I want to be a multi-hyphenate. I want to be a bad boy, and I want to be a sweetie.

Mm. How do you do that, I wonder? I'm trying to think of like a candy that really presents itself like that. Oh, Sour Patch Kids. You think? Oh, because they're kids.

And there's nothing more rotten than a kid.

Right, but they're also very Cherubian. Kids are very Cherubescent.

Sure.

They're very much like the angels. They're God's little wiggers or whatever, right? And so when you add that sourness to them, you're saying this is another thing about them. And you might not like it, white boy. You might not like it, little piglet. Yeah, so I think there's a lot of that that goes on. Sure. When you combine stuff like that, there's also some candies that some people can't even get through. Like we had kids that couldn't handle gobstoppers or whatever, and they had to move to another school. We'd have kids, you know, and people were like, you know what I'm saying? Like they just couldn't, they couldn't figure it out.

Sure, well, it's a lesson in patience. For me, when I think of gobstoppers, I think that the line of demarcation is only visible to those outside the cultural means of production. And so it really is Leninism at its most Stalingradian, but it's beautiful. So you can see that's actually a model of the universe.

Oh, they call them the Berlin Ball, you know? That's why, because there's so much to go through.

There's so much. You have to be willing to do it. You have to be. If you want to get to that center, which is just plutonium, it is yellow cake uranium. So it'll make you sick as a dog, but it'll make you grow in ways you should not.

Oh, dude. I saw a kid who had to take his shoes off in the middle of one because his feet were popping right out of him. This is Forever Chemicals. And a lot of rumors is that Wonka was working early with Forever Chemicals. That's rumor. Yeah. But there's a lot of PFAs in there. I saw a video the other day that people's grandparents now have PFAs in them, so they're suggesting, like, shutting down hugs, shutting down.

Yeah, well, the original recipe was Zyklon B, so it does make people, like, it'll make you happy in the moment but sad for a lifetime. Yeah, so it's your choice, bucko. Yeah.

You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch, you know. That's what's going on. Short answer, yes. Several popular candies formerly marketed under the Wonka brand, like Nerds and Laffy Taffy, have recently tested positive for very high levels of arsenic. Thank you, perplexity, which is a persistent forever contaminant in the environment and can accumulate in the body over time. It's not good. It's not good. It's not. Is it worth it, though? Sure. yeah they make the candies good when you're a kid and you get the nerds or what was it for you

was there a candy that you were like yeah um maybe like a charleston chew oh inside the freezer in a fridge that's unplugged so it's planting this seed of like this is getting so it's like so like my body's telling me this is getting colder yeah but my heart of hearts is like brother you know this

his room town here was an old trick we would use if we were driving around and doing coke right sure we'd fill the glove box with charles and shoes right so when the cop pulled you over you open that he sees them all fall out and he goes oh sorry fellas be on your way sorry boys yeah it was just like it changed the level of anger and and uh curiosity of the cop sure it put it a little bit more of a joy yeah it was a little bit more oh oh, wow, there's piñatas in here. Yeah, these are just a couple of candy guys

out for a midnight stroll. Well, the original tagline for Sour Patch Kids was there is no greater sin than the sin of being born. So that is powerful.

Well, it's something. I remember Sugar Honkies Unite had that. Who had that slogan? Okay. Because that was a big one. Isn't there a candy called Sugar Daddies? Oh, there was. and then a website bought it out. But there was also sugar ain't got nothing on this clan. Who had that?

Who had that, dude?

The sugar union? Yeah. Oh, no, they're like the Pinkertons.

Sugar daddies, that was it, man. Oh, they were a thing. And then you eat a couple of them and you go, I shouldn't be eating this. Yeah. You have one sugar daddy, you go, I shouldn't be eating that.

You're right. And then they gave the babies away. Here's the craziest part. And this is going back to the nuclear family breaking down. there's never a mother involved you know no it was sugar daddy sugar babies

sure it was like yeah the pursuit of happiness it was like gorgeous but tragic oh yeah

it was like I am legend or whatever it was it's like iRobot yeah it was very similar to some of that dude it was kind of like her with Joaquin Phoenix it was just just a challenged man dancing around in a mall willing to dry up the air

to get a little sugar in his system. The old reboot. Yeah, they called that the old Milwaukee handshake. Yum. Oh, God.

There's nothing that'll make you leave your family faster than a good bit of sugar.

I thought, and I hate to default to riff, I thought, surely, you were talking about Wonka being a progenor of forever chemicals. I was like, oh, surely this is just a Christmas riff. And then you pulled up the paper trail, which engendered this idea that was very much factual where, yeah, it is bad. It's giving people bone stuff.

That's not good. Yeah. And the saddest part is the injuries, our grandfathers had real injuries, like missing a limb from like, you know, he was, you know, got drunk and he was petting a landmine or something in Iwo Jima. Right, right. Sure. Missing his wife, maybe put some of his wife's clothes on a landmine, got a little crazy, whatever, lost a limb, lost half, you know, lost something important that had semen hiding in it. But now it's just some guy, you know, you see some guy in a wheelchair, and you're like, what happened? He's like, you know, I had too many nerd ropes, you know, or something. Like, just the turnover, the embarrassment of our injuries is going to start to get real, and it's going to start to get real fast.

Oh, yeah. Well, it's already, they call it, it's at the event horizon. So, like, we can't stop what's coming. We can only hope to, like, build a fallout shelter. But, yeah, I've met some older guys who thought that, like, nerds' clusters were, like, basically like a tasty hydrogen bomb. So it, like, looks like the atom, like the base molecules of human life. But they eat them and they, like, shit their pants and scream at their family or whatever.

what they're saying but then the crazy part is they start to choose that yes they choose that behavior yeah they don't know any better but it's gonna get weird when or what you know what happened to you you know and you're like yeah i hurt my you know like i was after years of plowing or working or

whatever, doing trade work or whatever, and now just, you know, after years of hiding from my wife in the other room, eating whatchamacallits or whatever, now, you know, I have a fucking, I have a pH balance of a fucking fluorescent light bulb at a mall, you know?

I have cellular mitosis.

Yeah.

If you eat, what is, there's a limit on the package. If you eat more than five, you get Osmosis Jones. Oh, really? Yeah, so you get like a little guy like fighting slime crime. Oh, I love that. and I'm guessing that's happening at an

Aussie concert

yeah like Youngblood doing Aussie covers and then the whole crowd it's like Astroworld they just start dropping like flies that's hilarious dude that's a world we live in I guess if we're really here yeah if we're not just an interference pattern on a different plane

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moved out i did yeah i took like well i did some gigs um i did some shows with fiona collie our friend oh she's so funny and mad is her husband yes i don't know if i've met him but i guess i'll meet him tonight probably that's amy's and then dylan carlino do you know dylan carlino yes i do know him he's in austin yeah he's so funny so yeah i like kind of stopped headlining for a bit And then got back to doing, like, some local stuff. I got involved in the St. Louis scene, and I, like, featured again. And, yeah, just kind of started over a little bit. I'm running a new hour, and it's been good to enjoy doing it. You know, when it feels like a job, you get kind of jaded. And it's like I just ever wanted – all I ever wanted was to riff. So it just – things got complicated. Yeah.

Were you happy with, like – because Kill Tony was and is kind of like the Tonight Show in a way, right? People would call it that. Sure. of like the tonight show but you know a different like amalgamation of it right or like a present semi-present day yeah you know there's also dark sorcerers that are involved with it but it's exactly where we are in the world and it's great it's a great show did you feel like being attached to that became too much or like how did you handle like the popularity and celebrity because i would say you were one of the most popular guys that kind of came through that system um did it feel like that because um even in my own life and recently like i've you know like in the past year i've thought a lot about like ego and what does popularity or mean and the value of

it and stuff like that you know yeah well i think i started to assign some of my self-worth some of my self-worth and the opinions of others not that i i would never look at stuff online but i guess i got too wrapped up in my sense of self like the poltergeist of self like what But what all of this meant, because all I ever did was stand up for years and years and years. All I did, seven days a week. And then if it wasn't going well, then I didn't know who I was, you know. So, yeah, more so than the Kill Tony thing, that, you know, it gave me a platform and it allowed me to do all this stuff. I just tried to take the good and not think about anything else. But, yeah, I was just really wrapped up in all this pressure that I was either misinterpreting or putting on myself, and I didn't like it. I didn't enjoy doing it anymore.

Yeah, and as you say, like, when it wasn't going well, I didn't like myself, kind of. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I can relate to some of that, man.

Yeah, I felt like, you know, I try to improvise so much riff, some have said, many have said. And if I wasn't able to catch my thoughts perfectly, and that opens the door for so much pressure on myself, where I was thinking of myself, maybe rightfully so, maybe not, duality, yes, laws of polarity, that I had so much potential. And so every night I would go out and I would try to use 100% of my potential on stage. And when I set myself up for that, there's no way I can possibly reach that, which makes it fun to keep going, makes it always exciting, but I will never be satisfied with it. Right, and always set you up for a little bit of failure in a way. Yeah, which a little bit of that is good. It's good to strive. And, you know, comedy is a, it's a lifelong thing if that's what you choose to do with your life. But I came to realize, and in probably in December that there has to be more to life than this. There has to be more than a performative affect. Um, I have to be worth more than what I think I'm worth to my friends just as a performer. And if my whole world is wrapped up in the business of show business, then I am doomed to go spiritually bankrupt. There's nothing that will ever be enough, you know so yeah i just try it was really nice you know i made a lot of friends that weren't comedians for the first time in a long time wow um and it was just great you know people who didn't know who i was to know that i have worth to people like not being funny like i can just go to the movies and i can talk about movies or we can kick a soccer ball around which i never did but i could have yeah and if we had found a soccer ball at any point in the beginning of the year i could have kicked it around and it's and it's and that kept me going so i would wake up every day and i would make myself a promise and it was firm and it was if i run into an unattended soccer ball today or when i could borrow just for the time being i will kick it

back and forth with whoever's around oh yeah i know exactly who can't get back and forth with some victim of uh who had too many of those little crackle bars or whatever and is now in a wheelchair and the last limb he can move is just soccering back and forth with a stranger passing through.

He has to do one of those muscle tests where he has to hit his knee at the exact right time to kick it.

And he does it himself now, yeah, because that's his insurance provider. They mail you the little hammer with the little triangle, and you do it yourself at home.

Oh, yeah, that's Moderna.

Yeah, that's Moderna or Pfizer, I think. I mean, I just got a kit the other day to take a couple of cysts off my own body. They'll mail you the scalpel mail and all of the stuff. They'll mail you a picture of a nurse. You put that up in the corner and you do it, man. It's pretty cool.

And the picture, not to cut you off, but I think that it's one of those pictures where you look at it one way and she's beautiful. Yeah. And then you look at it the other way and it's a witch.

Yeah, dude. Yeah, her name's Ramona Lisa is her name. It's an Italian nurse. And you can pick what ethnicity you want the nurse to be. Oh, good. And it comes with a chocolate, which is ironic because. That's what got us into this position.

Exactly, dude. You're like, okay, I feel like this is cyclical.

Yeah, yeah.

Great. This is what happens when there's no free health care. Exactly. That's where we are, right there.

Two different women. And both of those were drawn by Christina Mariani as well. I want to let everybody know that.

On an Etch-A-Sketch, which is unbelievable. I've seen Christina do freehand, which is, if you've never seen someone freehand draw, I highly recommend it. Well, she's in that new musical. It's a one-person musical. Yeah, it's a one-woman show. She's doing it at Edinburgh. I've seen it. Yeah, it's by Statesboro, yeah. It's in the Delta, yeah. It's the male version of Statesboro. Sure, yeah, it's Statesboro by way of Valdosta. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's where I went to college. I went to College of Georgia Southern. Did you go over there? Yes, by Savannah. Oh, wow. Were you jealous that you weren't at Savannah

know because like you're just being like an like

think you're a creative and artistic guy i think you're one of the most unique guys um in comedy or i think i don't know if that's the best thing to say to somebody i think it's true but i think you just have a unique way of being alive sure which i think is pretty cool because it's hard to figure that out in the world um but did you ever want to be over there at uh at savannah um scad i think it was yeah oh you'd always hear about that place in the south i went to college at charleston for a little bit and you'd always hear about scad like the people at scad you know

Yeah, it was like ground zero for guys in scarves. Yes. Summer scarves, too, which is rare. Oh, my God. You know what they say? Summer scarves bring winter tears. And that's George Orwell as well. Yes, that's 1984. That's so Orwellian, truly a Demerouge of existential pessimism. But no, I never – and I'm happy that we are bringing up the tenets of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. But it has been, it's been a crazy summer. No, I wish I went to SCAD. I didn't have artistic inclinations until I was probably 20. That's when I started doing stand-up. But no, I didn't know. I was more into boozing. So it was the only school I applied to. And they call it States Vegas. And it had some great bars out there. Good bar scene. Good bar scene. A lot of field parties, parties in the woods, mudding. Oh, yeah, a lot of that. So you got into that culture. Yeah, my mom's a horse trainer, so I grew up in north Georgia, sort of by the foothills of Appalachia, I think.

Is that, like, near LaGrange? No, it starts with an L or a different letter. It's Toccoa. That's what I'm thinking of with a T. Beautiful little area.

It's about, like, Gainesville by, like, Forsyth County, so, like, up there on 400. I want to get up there one day. what's one of the major uh outputs up there or like exports i don't even know what they do up there the commerce isn't exactly bustling oh it's not a busy area well now it's become it has become like nicer like uh sort of towards like alpharetta where they had that helium there at alpharetta oh they got free helium up there yeah yeah so nitrous will cost you but helium's a handshake And that's, and I do sell stickers that say that and we're printing them right now, but no, it's, I don't know when I lived there was really rural. So anyways, we got into mudding at an early age as, as most kids of my generation. Oh, that's a good way to be it.

And did you feel like, because you kind of have like, I don't know, you created such like a unique you, right? And do you ever think like, is this the real me or is this a me that I created? Does that ever come to your mind yet? Oh, sure. Yeah. It's no judgment against you. I've just had that happen in my own life recently. I quit, like I took a break from touring and so much of my life I didn't realize had been like attached to, oh, I always have somewhere to go. Oh, I got to get going. there's somewhere to be there's somewhere i need to be there's somewhere i'm going to be seen that's coming up and then now it's not really like that and it's okay but it's just been interesting to be like okay well say if that were going forever then what you know who would how would i yeah what's

going on with me you know yeah how would i because it is it's a degree of show business past a certain point is almost not even like seeking it's like running it's like you're running you think you're running towards something but you're running like away again from this idea that I have just coined the poltergeist of self about the the visage of like who is Casey Rock who is this um interference pattern of like where I grew up what my friends were like what I like to do and then also this person I try to present on stage which is you know it more or less is me I'm just having I'm just letting myself be a goofy guy yeah but yeah I mean I have had instances of like ego death either chemically induced or just being in a really low period of depression where yeah I look around and I go what is all what is all this for you know um but if I did have any answer it would be that the macro mirrors the micro so that in the little victories of my life I figure out my greater purpose like so it's easier for me now because I've gotten used to it the first six months of this year of not running around so much it's i've been so i've been so much happier where i i'm just a really stressed out guy you know i get i wear the world really heavily so if i have to do anything like even just like go do a local showcase it used to drive me nuts it ruined my

whole day just the stress and knowing that it's coming it's hard to operate yeah some people seem to be able to operate kind of freely even if there's something looming you know yeah like me I'm already like, fuck, man, my marriage, what will my wedding day be like? That shit's going to fucking be, it's going to be heck. and my if my wife's there she's gonna be pissed or whatever you know i'm saying like but that should weigh me down it's like on a regular thursday afternoon dude not to mention whatever else i have to do or sometimes like yeah that's such a cool way to say it that yeah sometimes i just feel like i wear the world heavy and some people it just seems to be like this like summer shawl that you know yeah that it's nothing like it seems to be like just like a little baby kite landed on their shoulder and they just brush it off you know yeah yeah but like sometimes I wouldn't want to go to sleep at night because I'd be like shit this is just leading to tomorrow and it already feels like so much I know not to complain I'm just I'm also okay it's just like yeah you just think about this sometimes that shit gets heavy

yeah well I think that professionally and just part of our gumption and I am not using the correct word when I say that but we just want you know we have lives that are based on creation right so they're were engendered to create and and i know if i have any down period where i'm not creating or i don't have to i feel like i'm not doing enough so yeah it would drive me batty i'd be running in circles chasing my own tail um but it's nice to do just like regular stuff like i'll read for a bed and then because i'll get so stressed out about like nothing yeah i'll be like man i gotta I gotta like knock up some barista Like I gotta have a child with like a barista soon And then I'll be like Who's a barista? What am I gonna name the kid?

That's beautiful And I think it's beautiful though Yeah Oh I feel like anytime I go into a coffee shop I hope maybe I fall in love or something like that I am the kind of guy who I do think Anytime I walk into a place could be Gas station, coffee shop You know Tire center, not tire center but somewhere, a place they're going to have women. Sure, like a Firestone. Yeah. Like a Firestone, but that's been in business and that has a little bit of extra loot to keep a decent-looking broad at the front.

A hostess? Yes. Is there anything more divine than a greeter at a Firestone Tires? And she's standing there, and there's three tires right by her, and I'm like, hey, baby, let's hit the road. I got one in the trunk. Yeah. I got one in the chamber. My car is on cinder blocks right now. you got three I got one let's start a life hey honey I put the sin and sender you feel me let's get out there I got a pair of cedar tires up back pair of cedar sinai's oh dude that has had to been

the worst tires back in like the wagon wheel days back when um a little house on the prairie was just starting out or whatever yeah um which is a new season out now go watch it my friend Crosby Fitzgerald is in it and um I've been watching it someone caught me watching it yesterday on my

phone at the gym so gonna go to a different gym now yeah they'll pull the lunk alarm on your ass like at a planet fitness they'll lunk alarm you to high hell bring up the lunk alarm because I gotta make sure they're still using it you know that is one of the better I wish all places of business had something comparable to a lunk alarm they used to just yell fatty or whatever you know

Or, you know, or, yeah, they would yell something like that, you know. Bad bones, bone structure. Yeah, they used to yell steroid boy or whatever, but now, there we go. They still have it?

Dude, he gets it with a 20 feet of a Planet Fitness. They're hitting the one corner.

Planet Fitness just outside Chicago, Friday night. Just got that train of some chest, but you know what?

It's Jay Cutler from the Chicago Bears.

Oh, my dear God. Wow. They hit him with it. And it's just for somebody that's being, I guess, overtly, what?

Strong and in good shape? Yeah. They hit that like the doomsday clock was at one minute to midnight. Yeah, dude. This is some people's Y2K, dude. Yeah. That caused a splinter of effect that effectively ruined Reaganomics.

Here's the crazy part is, dude. That guy, like, now we don't even realize it. They're getting us to think that being in shape is bad, right? it's all this slow let me tune the dial a little different right let me just mess with the opportunities here a little that's how they're doing it man um yeah it's planting bad seeds but cedar cyanide dude those if you got cedar cyanide wheels on a wagon yeah that was the worst

dude it was yeah it was terminal it was like having uh fleas like within your like roost yeah Yeah That's so brutal It's a fox in a chicken coop situation So they just go wild

But it's built in Imagine you get fresh cedar wagon wheels And they have cyanide in them And they're like People are like These are cedar cyanide And you're like Yeah it's the best we have right now It's all we have If you want to go Take the route through

the Sierra Nevadas. You're going to have to get this before the fall comes, like the Donner party. Yeah, yeah. But

you just had to do what you had to do for your family back then. Families were tougher. Well, things have just changed, man. I mean, now you would have a Jeffrey Dahmer would have a footwear, you know? Sure. He would have a shoe. Yeah, well Charles Bukowski should be sold to a rich family as a midwife.

And I've said that for

oh my god, yeah. Look, we are becoming new slaves. That's what I've been saying. I've been saying that. Get the F.

You're on a chain gang. Yeah, you're making license plates. That is just what the prison industrial complex is. So I am happy that there is a problem endemic to the state of Alabama that I'm happy we can bring up. There's a documentary called The Alabama Problem.

Is there? Yeah, it's on HBO Max. I haven't seen that one, but I have seen the one about the mall that's kind of going out of business. Have you seen that one? About the death of the American Mall. Yeah. But this one is a specific mall in Alabama. Bring that up. This is a great documentary. if you want to if it's raining or something and you want to watch something i think i saw the trailer for it jasper mole see if it officially closed or not man this was pretty cool dude

that's it's a good documentary it's it's enclosed or is it closed yes there's a lot there um rural king well that's good they replaced it with a rural king which is what they're going to do for

nuclear families to well that's it's just where we're going it's like when uh this uh jc penny closed his doors there but um but yeah that documentary is pretty good man

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in may and i did my last um show at creek and cave and creek's always been really great to me so i um i'm going back on the first of uh well i'm going back soon there's a special event i don't want to spoil it but i'm going back um so yeah i talked to a lot of my really good friends from mothership you know we were all door guys together so um i chat with them on the phone and yeah part of like um changing my life and i have no qualms in saying this but i'm sober and i and that's a part of my life and um part of that for me just means being um there for my friends so like every day i'll like call a friend and stuff that i would do i guess when i was younger in the pre-social media age you know so i'll call people and feel like all these kids are on their fucking phones now yeah i think that's popular sure um but but not nobody calls anymore i i agree

you know what that's a good thought sometimes i've i've certainly gotten away from texting and i'd rather just send a voice note i think that's better at least if you can kind of get a feel what's going on and even then like i will enjoy a call and i think honestly some people appreciate it it's like yeah and i think you just have to establish if you want like hey that's where i'm at in my life i want to hear my friend's voice you know like i want to know i want to have have some semblance just in what they're saying or how their energy is as to how they're really feeling because that's what that's what we're based on you can't pick it up through text it's pretty much impossible so no and that that's just a little bit of the tuning of the dial it's like where we're at where the future's taking us it feels kind of scary yeah some of that is lost yeah yeah i feel like i operated better too as a person before uh technology got too bonkers because i used to like to daydream even though a lot of it had dangerous voldemortian people in there like even though there was like a lot of pillaging of our home in a lot of my daydreams it was still like it was a chance for my mind to rattle on a little yeah so my mind didn't always feel like it was so attached to me I did like the time when you had more space just to kind of

daydream and your mind got to like yeah you're right exhale you know I do that a lot when I'm driving so you're saying you would daydream in a way that was like the last bastion of free speech for a mind of cut this part out cut this fucking part out yeah I mean

my shit would be pretty lit Frederick Douglass would show up at some of my daydreams like sure there was always someone at the pulpit yeah to let you know the type of energy that was there It was life or death. There were trials that were going on. It was very Salem witch-ian, you know? Oh, sure. It was like the crucible. Keep that part. Yeah.

It was like the crucible kind of meets McDonald's kind of. Sure. So if Grimace was like judge, jury, and executioner, which he often is in so many of our afterlives, as I've come to understand it. Grimace is like a tulpa and he's like an amalgamation, like a transmogrification of St. Michael. Is that what people are saying? Yeah, he's like a figurehead for like this demigod we know as St. Michael. And when he lets you in, it is just a big pool of creamy chili sauce. Oh, good.

I know I've prayed to him before for new condiments. That's him answering a prayer. Okay, there you go, dude. But dude, this is where we're heading. People don't want to look at the signs that like there are children who go to bed and And they'll wake up in the morning and they'll piss the perfect shape of Grimace into their sheets. Moms are like, oh, that's nothing. It's just 100 nights in a row of that. Nobody's connecting the dots of where we're going. No, like that you piss the Shroud of Turin.

You piss the perfect exact golem of things come to pass.

Dude, yeah. I know they cracked some kid open and he had 11 scenes from The Patriot with Mel Gibson inside of him. And Heath Ledger.

Yeah, I know. Yeah, well, as my understanding, it was just the Gibson scene. So there was no Heath Ledger, which is like, okay, what is this, the director's cut?

Yeah, what is this? And then he just screamed, aim small, miss small, and disappeared into the ether. It's just where we are. You mentioned, what do you want to say?

No, I'm just kind of just like coming to terms with some of that. Because it is, it's an absolute, you know. My will, like my will's greater than myself. You know, I have a higher purpose and some of that is grimace, like putting a kid in a wood chipper. Yeah.

I remember when we were in school and some kids didn't understand how the greater than or less than signs worked. And we weren't allowed to kill those kids. And that always kind of made me upset.

I don't know. I'm not even trying to get into some of that stuff. But I don't know my time stables. Oh, yeah. So what do we do? Where do we go from here?

You're right, dude. and it's weird if I'm willing to give you a pass, but I'm not willing to give them, you know?

Sure.

Well, it's not a meritocracy, you know?

It isn't. It was. It was in a perfect world when Tolstoy was kicking around with Dostoyevsky.

It was, dude, when Downton Abbey was doing their shit, when that shit was popping.

Oh, yeah. When they, oh, my God, me and my boys, we would sit down every Downtown and Abbey Tuesday.

It was good, dude.

It was so good.

The first fucking season of it. So good. God, I wanted to be a butler. Or I'd be a butler's son or whatever.

Yeah. Just to be grandfathered into the butler trade would be such a blessing.

And the butler comes walking and he's like, Gregory's gay.

You know? And you're like, what? He told you in confidence?

I know, dude. Dude, just get the dishes. Yeah.

Leave your son out of this. That guy was so good, bro.

Yeah. It's weird to see him like that, not sleeping, standing up in a closet. Well, he was a stunt double in a lot of coffins.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And people don't give him any credit, you know? No. Who was his name? That guy was a great actor.

He looks like the guy who did the Wilhelm Scream. You know what I'm talking about? The Wilhelm Scream. The guy who just won the contest? There is something called the Wilhelm Scream, which is this scream they use in like a million different movies. You would recognize it if you play it. Jim Carter. I think he's the guy who does that special, special scream from the golden age of Hollywood. Let's look at it.

The Wilhelm Scream. Say it again.

You sure?

That sounds like Wilhelm Memphis. Where is that from?

Yeah, that's Beale Street. If Beale Street could talk, it would sound like that. Hey! Wow! So, yeah, that guy did that, and then I guess he had to go to court to get, like, his residuals from him. You really? So, that scream, they're calling it the scream of hope. So, it was one of the first famous scream of hope? Are you serious? so yeah it's like a symbol it's like how bad has it gotten well it's like you know how like South Africa used Rodriguez and his albums to like fight against apartheid so like this is the American version

of that yeah I remember in Tyler Perry's Mandela Goes to Jail I think

exactly exactly so Sheb Woolley was the stage name of that old old guy who lived in the closet and he just did this He did this special scream that became like a message of hope.

Oh, I love hearing this. And this says it right here. And this says the famous Wilhelm scream was originally voiced by actor-musician Sheb Woolley in 1951. It was recorded for the movie Distant Drums for a scene where a man is bitten and dragged underwater by an alligator. Play it one more time and let's put it where it belongs in our heads. Oh, he gay, bro. That's all I'm saying, bro. He's a friend of Dorothy. Yeah, let's just say he's a friend of Dorothy. That's what they used to say. Or, yeah, he's a Toto owner. Sure. Yeah, people would say that. Have you seen that guy in Austin? He got a Toto? Who goes on the streets and he's like, you think this guy's gay, man? Have you seen those videos? Oh, my God. Uh-oh. Pull this up. This is worth watching, dude. This is one of the best things that's ever happened, I think. And it just goes to show how men are obsessed. with pointing the 11th finger at each other.

Yeah, they're making a call to the bullpen, but nobody's showing up. Yeah. Sure. You know what I'm talking about, Trevin? Yeah. Have you ever seen Elijah Wood? He rides around Austin on a little scooter sometimes. No, but I would believe that. I know, right? And I hope that happens. Me too. I hope that for the rest of the world and the rest of today. Well, here's what we should do. There's the one day in Austin that changed everything.

Okay.

So this is how rumors get started here. Let's go into this. Let's click on this. This is a picture, for those at home, of Elijah Wood on a bird scooter.

Oh, my God. He's ripping a heater. Fuck, yeah, he is. Dude, hands-free, pro-union, ripping a heater. Bro, he saved the whole freaking world. The day that changed everything. He's got a thousand-yard stare that's staring into the future of American society. He's hunting golems, dude. Yeah, he's hunting the Nephilim.

He's the watcher. Yeah, dude. Oh, definitely. He's got his ball certificates out. Can you – what did that say? Did it say anything else about him on that? That's crazy. And did you see him while you were there?

I have never seen something like this in person. It's by Evil Mopak. So this is – yeah, this is spell work right here. this is deep Elijah a spell work I told you equals magic I fucking told you this is an incantation

despite my joke ways online I actually quite miserly with my laughs it's just how I was paved but when something gets me it really gets me so on the fateful day when I saw the most quintessential 2018 Austin photo humanly possible pop into my Twitter timeline I was reduced to a queev

okay Lovecraft

what are all these adjectives this is just some fucking overwatch addict putting this shit together can you zoom down a little is this say anything else after that part oh that's it oh and they have to pay to read it

it was taken in september 2018 in austin texas while attending the fantastic festival he tried out the uh app-based rental scooter lime for the first time while holding a cigarette right oh that's pretty cool that is so cool this is like pictures taken moments before tragedy let's hope not i mean well actually it would be he's fine so it's not he avoided his destiny we're not casting anything that's the only thing i don't want to cast anything no no no no no i

don't want to do any spell work no and we don't have to and i i don't do talismanic magic it's my understanding neither does elijah woods so but i saw you brought something i saw you a little thing a bag of hair or whatever what's that for yeah sure so that's spare hair so um that's hair care um it's part of my self-care routine so if anyone while i'm talking to them says like hey a big clump of your hair just fell out you're ready to go yeah i'll be like oh thank you first of all thanks for holding space for that um second of all do you have any elmer's glue so yeah it allows me to kind of like keep my hairline like how i want it so yeah it looks great thanks yeah and i think if someone mails you their hair and you care

for it? It's

everything. I mean, that's crazy. That's what fatherhood means to me. It's like having a son who's bald as a baby like Caillou or like Franklin the Turtle and just getting a big old glob of mush and just smooch it on top of that freaking think tank. One time

we were on a cruise ship. Not one of the ones that like is sinking or has like shit floating on it or whatever that Netflix keeps advertising. But one of the regular ones, we were on there and we had Halloween, but we didn't have any costume store. So some guy would sold a bunch of his pubic hair and people were like gluing it on with honey as mustaches and stuff. So everybody could be like the husband from – everybody could be Sam Elliott. Oh, that's so cool.

Let's play this video right here. Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

Are people going to think that? I think most people will, but I don't know. I feel like he gay on straight.

Nigga look like he gay on a bitch. Nigga booty power and shit. Why you say that? Nigga got this little gay outfit on like it's Halloween and shit. Like what the fuck you trying to do, nigga? Alright, you gay on straight. I'm straight in a bitch. You think other people gon' think that? Like they gon' know that. I feel like he gay on straight.

Nigga gay is a bitch. Every time it's gay. Look at that dumb ass ass nigga. You gay on straight. You think other people gon' think that? I feel like he gay on straight. He's a small man. Every time, dude. Heated. Like a little bad bitch. You get out straight. I'm straight into a pencil. You think other people gonna think that? Hell yeah. You feel like he get out straight. Damn, what the f- He could be bisexual. Fat. Why'd he say that? Everybody bisexual. Nah. You get out straight. I don't care what the f- They get out straight. I feel like he get out straight. Gay as fuck. What the f- He say that?

What the fuck is he wearing, nigga? Who is that?

John Jones? Who is this? That's Bones Jones.

Isn't that Indiana John Jones, dude? Who the fuck is that?

George Jones Jones. That's good.

That's good, yeah.

That's pretty cool. That was a cool outfit. I'd like to get to a place in comfortability, in metaphysical wellness, where I could wear a chain around my neck with a lock on it. Yeah, I think you could do it, dude. I think I could pull it off. I used to paint my nails, and then I would go to rehab like a week later. It happened several times in my adult life. I would paint my nails like you know twirling my hair talking on a corded phone like paint my nails and then I'd wake up like a couple days later and I was like I need help yeah I was like I'm being fashion forward but I am turning the clock back oh you're a fucking just a little leap year you were yeah I'm a leap year baby I have Benjamin Button's disease but I'm right in the middle between young and old so I'm normal

brutal um so sobriety so you did you uh can i ask you something about it how's it been um was there like a a point that you got was it like drinking was it or was it just like you were just feeling like disconnected from your own life and and congrats on uh having the wherewithal to like try something new like even just to be like okay i've been in austin this is what's going on i'm gonna try something new it's some it's so hard to come to that conclusion for some of us

yeah well um i've struggled with those things since i was a kid and i would have long stretches of sobriety um when i was younger it would be alcohol and then um where i grew up in georgia um it was i was in high school during like the purdue pharmaceuticals like that all that stuff oh really um so a lot of my friends um got addicted to like oxycontin and stuff like that um So, yeah, so, like, that, I was exposed to drug use like that when I was younger. So, off and on, and mostly, I would sometimes go back to it when I couldn't deal with pressure. You know, there's a lot of excuses for things like that. But, yeah, it had gotten to a point where I no longer wanted to do comedy. I no longer wanted to really do anything. I just felt like, almost not like I had wasted my life, because I love what I do and I really like getting to meet people and I love making people happy but it got to be too much when coupled with a habit that I had developed of various drugs and alcohol and things like that where I was like something has to change like something has to change so you got to that point something has to change yeah I had resigned myself to the idea of a certain death and that did not scare me it would have been I looked at it at that point as some sort of welcomed relief Like I had gone past the point of anyone being able to help me or me being able to help myself. And then when I did reach out and I did seek some help for that stuff, I realized that that's not what I wanted at all. What I really wanted was to figure out a better way to live. That I really just wanted to have some peace in my life that I knew, even in the throes of it, was not being given to me by drugs and alcohol. It was the opposite of that. It was making my life a thousand times worse. And by, yeah, I've been able to cut so much guff out of my life, so much guff and slime. And I'm able to look around today and I know that I don't have any, I don't live in shame about my life. I don't do, I don't say things to things. I don't say things to people I don't mean. I don't hurt my friend's feelings. I can be a better partner. I can kick a soccer ball. I can't it's basically it was soccer ball based so I looked around and I was like you know what this house is missing soccer ball and then I caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror and I said you're in no condition to kick a soccer ball you're gonna hurt somebody but it's just really basic things you know I wanted to be involved again I wanted to be in the stream of life and yeah dude it's been so beautiful I'm just so happy and I don't think it's a temporary happiness i think it'll be sustained if i continue to work on myself i know

huh yeah are you able to look and see uh congrats too man i know it's not like a thing that it's like is a congrats thing but it's a it when you think about our world to take a break from anything yeah and make a commitment to take a break from something and do it it's tough oh my gosh it's tough for any of us we're all we're there's so many ways to get addicted to

distract ourselves from us absolutely it's a it's a diseased thinking of i'm constantly because you know i can do with all kinds of things i would spend too much money i would i would gamble i would do these things that on paper seem like a lesser thing than the usage of substances and they are but it's all just a symptom of a greater i want to distract myself and i want instant thrills that are followed by continuing to chase that thing yeah what team were you betting on too can i'll tell you when i've been on it i never did sports betting i and i didn't lose i don't think i have like a gambling addiction but i would go i don't gamble anymore i'll say that i would do slots oh you do slots i do some spins dude five dollar spin have a slap at the pokies

yes oh yeah i would love dude sometimes i like this time i didn't i was just in las vegas but I would, I'd like to slip down there at night when nobody would be around and I'd sit there and play some slots, just put in 20 bucks, 40 bucks, you know, and just fucking try to get a little bit of money out of China. You know, I'd yell at the machine. I'd be like, we're going to fucking get your cash. We're coming, Beijing. Yeah, we're coming, dude.

Congratulations. Pork boy. You've popped the pig big. Like, that's, it's so funny because it will give you, and this is not a bit, heaven forbid I do a bit, but it'll be like, congratulation, congribitibus, you've won, you've been awarded dollar. Like, you won a dollar, like a singular Judeo-Christian dollar.

And they sound it out, it takes for, and you're like, fuck, dude, if I would have just called in a, even like, just fucking taken a call on a phone and asked them for two dollars, I would have made more money. doing something else.

You've been accepted into the winner's circle. Press B to trust. And then you're like, press B, and then it's $1.47. And you're like, okay, I'm betting $5. You just told me I lost money. Yeah, and it's like, oh, you've won the deceased sibling round. We're going to bring back.

Anna Marie, and you're like, oh, my God. My sister's back. My sister's back.

But it's so funny. But that's how it's going to get. Don't you see where we're going? I know.

I mean, that's going to be in our freaking textbooks one of these days. You're going to have to go to The Wynn or Encore, or you're going to have to go to Dragon's Beard or whatever the casinos will be named then, you know, or Faggot's Realm or whatever they're called, right? You're going to have to go to some of these places. Sorry. You have to go to the Circus of Life or Trump's Nuts or whatever the casinos are going to be called. You're going to have to go there in the Biden's Oculus, right? You're going to have to go there and they'll be like, you know, get four spins and you'll see your father, you know? And that's really what it's going to be like.

Yes, and you have to keep playing. You will use your social credit score to go have a round of spins at John Carpenter's Cigarette Burns. and you will be lucky to walk out with a talisman or an amulet of any repute. Yeah, dude. It's brutal. And I always just think it's so funny how they'll be like, gar, gar, gar, gar, gar. You've awarded the pig some hooves and then they'll just like print you out one US dollar.

Yes.

yeah dude what do we

I mean where do we go from here you know what are some things that you feel like cause like I'll go to meetings I'm gonna go to a meeting probably whenever I get done with this today what are some things that the meetings do for you do you notice something like that over time yeah like going to recovery meetings there's a lot of 12 step meetings out there

sure I went this morning in Nashville I like to Did you go to that 7.30 meeting over there? No, it was at a sober living in Nashville at 11.30. But at a very base level, what I can say is that I have never, ever walked out of one feeling worse than I was walking in. I will always, even if there's two other people in there, and I've been to plenty of things like that, newer meetings or smaller towns, I'll always hear something That relates to my life Or relates to how I want to have my life be So it's just I like to meet random people too It's like makes me uncomfortable And then when I leave I feel like I did something good Because I know it's good for me And I know I need it

Yeah, it kind of cultivates a part of you that you can't even access Like I think for me Like I share in meetings I try to share most of the meetings that I go to And I always wonder kind of why It's like uh and then i was like oh well when i was a kid i didn't there wasn't like a place that was safe where i could speak up right like at our house you couldn't speak up nobody cared how you felt or wasn't even i don't even know i had any feelings except that i wasn't feeling good sure and it was like nobody and that was our whole like system at home yeah and so like sometimes when i go in there it's like well this is a place that's safe enough where i can speak up even if i don't know exactly what i'm gonna say or how exactly i feel it gives me like a little bit a space to explore it. So it's almost like, sometimes I feel like, um, it's almost like the kid me or the younger me that's in there. That's kind of like, I mean, it's an adult me, but it kind of like, um, it helps me honor a little bit of that. Like here's this younger me that never got to speak up. So in here today, I'm going to sit here with you and we're going to, you know what I'm saying? We're going to speak up for ourselves.

Yeah. That, that is really beautiful. I can definitely, um, identify with some of those, um, sentiments from feeling like a bit voiceless when I was younger. Yeah, it is. It's so nice to anytime i'll try to like prepare something smart to say it'll be like you're a bumble you're a troglodyte like i'm a mute i'm a mute deaf speechless but i'm like it's summer's summer's hard and they're like what the who what are you not even who are you what are you and why

the big three um do when somebody will share something in there and that you've been wanting to say your whole life or here yeah and you'll finally hear it or or and you'll be like oh i feel like a part of me like will almost like the locks will like turn yeah and a new door will open yeah

you feel like a weight has been lit i can't even describe how it feels like really get involved in that stuff and um it's so crazy it makes you feel like you know i'm of the belief that the universe is all mental and it unfolds just for us you know how can it not our live experiences are designated and interpreted solely for us and when i'm in there almost every time something will happen that's so kismet or a synchronicity and you'll hear something you were just thinking about or something that's upcoming you've been worried about and you're like what are the odds of that and it happens almost every day where you're like i'm on the right path you know when you do the right things you get the right things We'll be right back.

It might be the things you want, but the things that you need at least. And the little things you hear in there, man. The little things like contrary action. Like a lot of times I won't want it if I don't want to do something. Unless it's for like a reason where there's like safety concern or something like that, then I need to consider trying to go do it. Like I don't really need to do this yoga. I don't really need to go and like walk over to my neighbors and drop this off. It's because there's a darker part of me that wants me to be by myself, that wants me to stay like isolated and sit and think and ponder about everything and and just learning those things and eventually i have to learn things a lot right yeah i have to learn things a lot it's like my forgetter is really big it's like it's almost like when i wake up in the morning it's like there's a part of me that's forgotten if people care about me that's forgotten if i care about me you know it's not exact but there's a lot of like somebody comes in almost at night and cleans like the dry erase boards you know i need to be reminded that i matter and

at a bigger level other people matter more than me yes yeah other people matters you know i was the i was the main actor in my life for so long and it was all how things were affecting me and what i was doing and it's so nice to yeah just genuinely give a shit about other people

Dude, some of my best moments or my moments are my favorites are if I wake up and my first thought about somebody else. It's almost like, God, thank you. Or if I'm just driving and I have to remember something somebody had said yesterday, like, oh, I'm going to call them and check on them about that or something somebody cared about. And I was like, oh, let me see how that played out for them. The more those I get, like, the better it feels.

Yeah, because we're meant to have community. In my mind, it's the same thing. It's so much easier. There's a million other things I could be doing for an hour a day than doing that. But when I'm alone, if I make an excuse like that, I'll make another excuse, you know? Yes. And I'll make another excuse. And it may not lead to drug use, but it definitely will lead to me having a sadder life. Yeah. And at the very least, I don't want that.

Yeah. Yeah, that's so. And it's like, I just remember people care about me. I walk into a meeting and I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Dude, I remember. And it's not that I forgot them or anything, but it's just like, I have to have this thing replenished. That's like, yes, your heart works. You work. You're okay. Things are okay. There might be problems, but they're not that big and everything's going to be okay. It's almost like you just like, I don't know. It's like, it definitely is like church. Some people are like, do you go to church? And it's like, I don't go to church every week, but in a way I go to church four or five times a week. Yeah. You know, and you feel it. And you feel it. Yeah. Like I walk out of there. I'm like, okay, if I'm like, I mean, there's some days when it's rough. If somebody's sitting on their phone next to me the whole meeting, dude. If there's a kid running around, God forbid, a little Christmas kid.

You can tell it's like a New Year's Eve, baby.

Yeah. And he's like, my birthday's coming after whatever. And I'm like, no, it's not.

No, it's not. We're in July. I can tell you're a New Year's Eve, baby. Get the hell out of here with your holiday spirits.

But no, man, I think that community is great. what do you think if there's somebody who's scared to try to go to a first meeting you know i'll have friends that'll ask me sometimes about like or what do you say to somebody who's thinking like maybe i might be struggling with this you know sure um well something that i go back to is that

it's just so nice to be around people who i i you know there's a saying uh the saying of a terminal uniqueness that makes people continue to struggle that we think that we're so different in our suffering that were put on this earth just to suffer. And who am I to say if that's not the case, but everything you've been through has meaning. And of course it has meaning to you, but it doesn't really have that much helpful meaning to you. The things that you've gone through that are really bad, ruminating on that does not help. But when you put it out of you and you see that it helps someone, even just for a day, like being around people who also hurt that way, it's just an incredible feeling. It's not a chore. It's not something you have to go do. it's something I look forward to doing cause it's so nice to look around and go oh my god I'm not this little freak I'm not this little guy that god forgot you know I'm someone that has purpose even if it's just for today I can have a purpose of hanging out with these people and I know that when I'm in there I feel better even if it's just for the hour even if I leave and I get back and I feel like shit again and I'm going a little crazy and I'm riffing a little too hard about the wrong things and my little brain it's a safe place like and I hate to use that term but it's you know places like that are just it's somewhere completely free of judgment it's so beautiful yeah it's so beautiful and there's nothing else like it

I agree yeah yeah it's crazy sometimes some people are like hey do we come do this I don't know if I'm doing that you know I don't know if I'm driving over to meet you at a Whataburger or something you know just because they're popping off because it's new or whatever and the seats are clean or whatever still yeah I'm not going animal style you can't make me yeah but you were like hey you want to drive 20 minutes across town to go to like this 11 30 a.m like meeting it's gonna be mostly older folks in this church and i'm like dude yeah yeah

that shit sounds popping i dig wisdom yes dude i love to talk to some old farmer i get off on talking to an old farm our plants got aids you're like i don't know if that's what happen he goes when my arm's crying i gotta feed it when that baby's crying i gotta feed it and

he go hell yeah don't come on my back and tell me it's raining you know shit like that you're like yeah people always have crazy quotes um but no man it's definitely like i don't know and it's there for you it's like if you if you have a tough time if you leave if you come in or out the meetings are there you can go back right yeah it's just so nice to like something that really

sat with me this last go around when I was trying to get my life together again is just the simple thought that I don't have to live like that like whatever is making me feel like my life is for want of a better term escalating towards some terminal velocity where I've had so many times in my life where I feel like this is going to end bad I'm either I'm you know I'm working too much or i'm worried about the wrong shit or i'm you know i'm using again and i know it's going to end bad and to know i don't ever have to feel like that again because i know that i'm in control of my emotions now and it's so great i like to let yourself have peace it's so hard it's

like the hardest thing in life why is it hard i don't know that's such a fascinating thing i've never said like that to let yourself have peace yeah like i don't want to let myself have peace man it's like or i don't know if i don't think or i'm not saying i don't but it's like that would be the like yeah i don't do i not deserve like what is that i i don't know if it's something just the way that we're wired where because that's it that's some of the wiring is right there why wouldn't i let myself have peace i have friends that are that like and i've struggled i've had some tough years over you know over the years for sure and uh but i've had some friends that uh won't won't won't get close to it you know yeah won't try to get close to the fire they want to just keep keep trying to do it what's familiar it's familiar and there's a thing of like i'll figure this out you know i'm saying like yes it like i've gotten myself this far right and the world feels like you i don't know when i was a younger i put a chip on my shoulder like the world was an enemy yeah and i'm gonna figure this out and watch me and then the worst part is if you have some successes in your life or things that go kind of your way it's hard to realize that like something you know yeah because then you feel like oh well i'm doing i'll figure

this out too yeah because i did this for myself i i uprooted myself i made this happen but then also i've made a lot of the bad things in my life you know drinking tuss walking down the road having a little slip and slide oh karmically speaking i'm a karmic patsy i'm a i'm a charlatan of redemption i'm a test man you're the jack ruby yeah of that realm i am jack ruby and i am nikola tesla and we are building a free energy circuit that edison will shut down yeah for sure um yeah it's but that ego is so because yeah it's like no one really helped me become a comedian no one taught me how to tell jokes no one you know i slept in my car for a long time i spent my whole life working on this thing so when we're able to turn that into something that is working of course i think we're apt to believe like oh i'll turn this around too by myself that's just you know

we both know that's not the case it's not possible yeah it's just willpower it's vibrant willpower i'm amazed at the willpower sometimes of people that struggle like i have friends whose parents are out on the streets and or we've been struggling for 20 30 years you know and uh and i'm sure some of them like some of them even asked me why do you think this is what's going you know it's like i don't know but you just try to talk with somebody about that stuff and it's just the willpower of of some of of alcohol or of people that are in recovery of alcoholism of alcoholics it's man it's strong it's like i'll figure this out everything i'll turn this around Or then sometimes I bet you just get trapped in shame and then you just want to stay away from your life because you feel like, I don't want to go around these people because I'll only make things worse for them. That's got to be kind of a crazy trap.

Yeah, that you're too far gone and you're like radioactive.

Yeah, it's heartbreaking.

Yeah, definitely. But that people, you feel like people will be better off without you, which is such a dangerous thought that is never, ever, ever, ever true.

Yeah. Yeah, it's never true. you've talked about the occult a lot right and I feel like you've gone around up and down those realms you referenced

You low-key, your closet occult, people say, okay. Occult adjacent.

No, I've read about all kinds of religions and stuff, so sometimes I'll throw some buzzwords out there. Will you?

Will you do that?

I'll throw some buzzies. I'll do a little buzz. I'll catch you in a little fly trap. Are you the Oral Hirschheiser of throwing buzzwords out there? Oh, yeah. Casey, Orenthal, James, Ensign, Rocca.

No, Oral Hirschheiser.

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

Sorry, I think he was one of the best pitchers before you were born. Dude, when I was a kid, like, the best pitcher was kind of an old white dude. It was like, okay. Randy Johnson? Uh-huh. It was before him. It was like Randy Johnson's daddy or whatever. Candy Johnson. Yeah, bring up Oral Hirshhizer. There he is, dude. He's a legend. Him and Walker Bueller actually look alike. But from Buffalo, New York, man, he's a legend. But he was a legend when I was growing up. You know, it was just like a white guy that was able to do it. and then things got uh latino and just more diverse um but what i was going to ask you yeah where do you feel like we're at spiritually as as a people right now do you do you feel like we're in a tough spot do you see a different future for us like what do you really see having somebody who like kind of is willing to kind of massage the crystal ball of different

realms that is a interesting question and uh uh happy to be here but it that's that's difficult I think for me, as part of a better life that I've tried to live, yeah, I love reading about different kinds of positive philosophy from antiquity. So, you know, Stoicism, Marcus Aurelius, up through different. I've had different times in my life where I was a more or less a believer of existential nihilism, that life had no purpose, that we were put into this world simply from a dying God, sort of a Gnostic worldview of, um, we don't have any purpose because we will ultimately die. Right. So in doing so, the end justifies the means in the sense of whatever we end up doing, it does not serve any sort of greater good. But I believe the opposite of that today. Um, I think as human beings and, uh, these thoughts are sort of a mishmash of various other things, mostly the tenets of hermeticism and some sort of cabal, cabala, not cabalic, not like a cult, but the universe is always in motion and we're a part of the universe, right? So I know that my life serves a greater good today. And I also know that I can be a driving force in my life while also knowing that I can only drive so far. So all I can choose to do is, as they say, the right-hand path of doing the right thing and the next right thing. And if I do do something wrong to a friend, small things. The mistakes I make today are smaller. I can be snippy. I can be rude. I can be not emotionally available. I can immediately act to correct that, right? So it's some iteration of karma and some iteration of the understanding that life is suffering. You know, it hurts to know that we're alive and to know that we're worth more than will be given. Hmm. But. Dang, that's crazy. I never heard that before. Yeah. You know, people, the meaning of life is just, it's the small things. It's to mean something in a moment by moment basis and to do things without the purpose of distraction. So it's so much easier, you know, we've both struggled with drugs and alcohol to turn that knob off. But I'm going to have to wake up again tomorrow. And that's the thing about, like, developing a drug habit is, like, I would always be so furious when I would wake up and go, like, God, I have to do this again. I can't believe I have to do this again. But I'm of the belief that we were all created so the universe can understand itself, you know. So I'm simply a cog in such a greater machine of I only exist because at the end of my timeline I served some greater purpose, you know, for the creator of the universe.

whatever you want to call that um and who do you hope it is like say if it is like a and i think that's beautifully put dude i really do that's pretty cool man you're eloquent speaker you're going to be a great uh screenwriter thank you for saying yeah it's going to be exciting man i admire the fact that you're willing to to do something that you want to do right like i think it's easy to get trapped in like there's popularity here there's some money here there's reward there's like ego reward here but is this really like what i really want to do like sometimes i really want to just focus on learning spanish and be a writer right some of those those are things that i think right that gives me self-worth right and but then you get caught in different things and sometimes they're blessings and it's great paths and stuff but it's like Yeah, do we reward like that, you know, do we reward that thing inside of us that also we, that was the reason maybe we started out wanting to be creative. Like, sometimes you'll get on such a path that you never get back to those things sometimes.

Yeah, it's been so nice to bring it back to comedy in any capacity, to do things just for fun, to go do an open mic at like a hot dog stand. Yeah. It's like I used to love stuff like that. I used to live for shit like that. and then when you get caught up in all the numbers and how are the tickets when you get caught up in all that it some of it gets lost and I'm tired of losing stuff you know I needed to trim some of my hedges tall poppy syndrome I needed to cut down some of these egotistical parts of my life that I know don't serve me and then it's a daily thing of figuring out you know chipping away at the block of happiness and trying to get a firmer picture of what that looks like

yeah yeah hard to say I think well said um in the end when we get there do you and it's and we realize oh this was just a big masked singer right sure and they take it they take the mask off who do you hope it is Bill Paxton yeah who played for the Bulls

um is that Bill Paxton that's John Paxton

John Paxton

so uh Bill Paxton, an American actor who was in Aliens and Frailty, just famed character actor Bill Paxton, who did have leading man potential and was sometimes given the option to exercise that, died in a medical malpractice incident. And he once told – yeah, he got malpractice to heaven.

Oh, that's what happened to Kanye's mom. It was him and Kanye's mom then maybe. Yeah, I think they were doing like a dual surgery or something. They were doing sutures or something. It was a suture day. Oh, it's probably one of those new – because I know that insurance is offering if you both get surgery on the same day with someone you don't know. It's like – It cancels out. Then, yeah. Well, it's cheaper. Sure. Yeah, it's half as much for twice the people, so. Yeah, yeah. It's a new – and they're doing that new drive-by surgery where some guy just reaches out of like a – yeah. Ow. but yeah there's a lot of great offers coming from the gods above oh yeah sure we're simply vessels man Bill Paxton died in February 2017 from a fatal stroke oh man 11 days after undergoing heart surgery his family fought a wrongful death lawsuit accusing the surgeon in hospital of medical malpractice alleging the doctor used an unnecessary unconventional technique Cedars Sinai full circle riff put a bow on it aka cedars cyanide a lot of people call it which is another and they are coming out with a yogurt i've heard so that's good we are doing squatters rights on that riff we are here to cut the ribbon on that riff um before you go casey uh the riffs you are you're there's you're you're a different instrument man you're a different instrument how do you best set yourself up for the ability to riff do you have to do a certain sequence of events before you go on like and not to put a lot of pressure on yourself but have you noticed certain things lead to better tuning for yourself

as an instrument oh that's a good question um without giving away my entire process which i am not even capable of replicating which really gets me in a bind when i can't even do my own act and i'm the one who does it yikes i like to do i like to have some tent poles so i'll go out there I'll cause a bit of a fuss I'll cause a fuss and I like to I'll say this I like to go up there and sing because it gets me out of my head so I learned a long time ago the most embarrassing thing you could ever do is try to sing genuinely like in a circumstance that does not call for it so I'll go up there I'll do a little grunge number do a little Alabama shakes Brittany Howard and I can feel super embarrassed and then I go well surely nothing for the rest of this hour will feel like how that just felt. So that allows me to just sort of peel the mask off and then do a big Scooby-Doo reveal of me to myself in the mirror. And then I do a quick wink and I will have some tent poles. So I'll try to do three jokes that I know I'm going to tell. So before I go up and I do my hour, I'll look at I'll know three jokes that I'm going to say. Okay. And then I'll do joke. Joke. Yeah. Joke. and then from there hopefully i've gotten about 10 to 20 laughs at this point and if you extrapolate let's say the room's 500 which is bigger than rooms that i do let's say in a perfect world i'm headlining 500 seaters if i get 10 laughs out of 500 i go oh i only got 490 to go so I'll do a couple jokes up top and that'll give me the confidence I need to string it all together.

Yeah.

Yeah. But, you know, we're... But I have like a thousand half-sentence jokes, so... Got it. If I ever lose my train of thought, I'll just like hit them with... I'll just do a quick stinky. So that's like an example of a joke.

Oh, dude. You're like an Easter basket that has matches in it, dude. You're like, there's just something going on. Be careful with the plastic wrap. You'll set the whole thing off. Cadbury and diesel. It's just, yeah, there's something just so charming about your presentation of yourself. Thanks for saying that. It's the truth. Thanks. I hope you feel that in a place where we need to feel things that are important. But I just think like, yeah, I don't know. I don't mean that because I'm saying that to you, but I just think, yeah, there's a, I don't know. It's a great thing to watch

You're a great thing to watch, Casey Rocket Thanks, me and my friends Watched No Offense on Netflix Your special Right when I started comedy and it was very formative for me And I thought it was so funny And I'd never seen anything like it So I really appreciate you saying that

Well you bet dude, I'm glad that we've been able to communicate Hope we can do it more I think I'm gonna try to come out there tonight You should Come riff or at least come hang out You don't have to riff but come hang out it'll be so fun It would be so fun, dude I think I'm gonna go it because I think it's probably what I need to do Contra reaction

My crowds and I'm sure your crowds too, but they're so They'll just be so happy to see you, you'll have so much fun It'd be great

Alright, I'm coming then What time are your show at? 7 o'clock I'm supposed to go to a 6.30 meeting But maybe I can find a 6 or maybe I can go to one after Yeah Casey Rocket, you got some tour dates Coming up? Yeah, I'm on the road.

Yeah, CaseyRocketComedy.com. Up in Liberty Township over there, Cincinnati. That's a good place over there. Doing some more funny bones this year. One thing I want to plug, I have an hour of my stand-up on my Patreon. Okay. It's $6, and all the money goes to harm reduction programs in Chicago. So community outreach, clean needles, harm reduction, all kinds of good stuff that helps people get help people get the help that they need so yeah my patreon's on there and um if you feel like doing that just know that all that money goes

to charity so yeah that's awesome man um congrats on all the success dude thanks for talking with us we had liberty township what were some of the other ones let me just rattle them off real quick columbus ohio i love being in ohio dude st petersburg florida ashville north carolina have been there um i have not done the orange peel yet but i've been to ashville it's so cool cool dude um baltimore maryland got offered a three uh threesome there by a uh older mixed couple one of them wearing who i think was wearing an ed reed jersey uh we got chicago back at zany's indianapolis indianapolis louisville a lot of places um you can check uh check him out online on his website, CaseyRocket.com? CaseyRocketComedy.com. CaseyRocketComedy.com. Yeah, thank you, guys. And before you go, I just want to get this note in for viewers. No, the Jasper Mall in Jasper, Alabama, has not officially closed. It is still operating, though, in a very reduced and dead mall state.

Dead mall state, that's what's going to happen when the nuclear family collapses.

Not to be confused with Dead Mall 5, actually, who I think is still doing well. Can you bring up Deadmau?

Yeah, I think that's one of Marshmallow's aliases. So it's like Deadmau's. Yeah, he's in the, what do they call it? The Marshmallow Extended Universe.

Yes, Deadmau.

Oh my God, face reveal.

Okay, spoiler alert. Didn't know that was him. I hope he's doing good. Anyway, cool, man. Dude, thank you so much for your time. Have a great show tonight. I'm going to come up there and I'll figure it out when I get up there.

Yeah, I wouldn't have it any other way. And I'll say one more thing. Yeah, for sure. There's more to life than riffs, but there's not more to riffs than life. That's it.

That's it. See you at the mall.

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