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Brooke Shields - part 2
Work in Progress with Sophia Bush

Brooke Shields - part 2

from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush

June 26, 2026 | 00:30:13 | Arts, Music, Comedy | Explicit

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Having spent much of her life meeting other people's expectations, Brooke Shields is now defining success on her own terms. In part two of this intimate conversation, she reflects on aging, creative control, second acts, and why her popular mystery series "You're Killing Me" feels uniquely aligned with where she is today. Plus, find out how a broken bone led Brooke to one of the most important realizations of her life. Watch season one of "You're Killing Me" on Acorn TV. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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00:01:43 - 00:04:38 | Speaker 4:

everyone deserves access to high quality affordable health care no matter what and that's why millions of people rely on Planned Parenthood health centers for services like cancer screenings wellness exams birth control STI tests and much more in fact one in three women in the U.S. have been to Planned Parenthood for care so it kind of blows my mind that lawmakers are trying to permanently shut them down. They already passed a law that blocks patients that use Medicaid from getting the affordable preventative care that they need, and now they want to make that law permanent. Guys, nobody benefits when people are getting fewer exams, paying more for care, or just skipping the health care they need altogether, and we know that is happening. Planned Parenthood health centers have reported that fewer patients are getting basic care, like breast exams and STI tests since the Trump administration and their backers defunded Planned Parenthood. This is not okay. Patients shouldn't suffer because of their laws. Our communities all deserve better. To get involved, text the word UPDATE to 22422. Boom is a boutique fashion brand that curates effortlessly feminine, trend-forward clothing for women who want to feel confident, stylish, and comfortable without compromising quality or affordability. With Boehm, you'll find outfits that work for every plan on your calendar from day to night. Simple styling, elevated results, and looks you'll reach for again and again and again. Their designs are made to last and won't break the bank. Shop now at Boehm.com. That's B-O-H-M-E dot com. If you want your guests to ask, wait, where is this from? Tea Forte is the perfect place to start. Known for their signature pyramid tea infusers topped with the iconic leaf, Tea Forte delivers premium blends served in luxury hotels and restaurants around the world. Beyond the tea itself, the beautifully designed packaging, curated gift sets, and tea chests make every day feel elevated. From brunches to dinner parties, birthdays to thank you gifts, Tea Forte turns everyday hosting and gifting into something effortlessly refined, memorable, and genuinely special. Shop now at teaforte.com or on Amazon. Hey everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Welcome back to the second portion of our conversation with our favorite gal, Brooke Shields.

00:04:38 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 4:

I think there's something so special about finding your friendships as women and certainly something that I think I cherish, especially in our crazy line of work. And you are one of the people who lives in the way that I feel like.

00:05:00 - 00:05:58 | Speaker 2:

I want to. I have looked up to you likewise for so long because you make sure, despite being the face, being the icon, being all of the things that sometimes women are told they're only allowed to be, you add all of your full humanity onto it. And you've shared work about reclaiming ownership of your story. Your books, as I mentioned, have just been so beautiful. You've lived through moments of celebrity culture and also helped us process it. And you've made us, I think, think about those things more deeply. And I'm curious how you feel about fame now. Do you feel like for you it's healthier? Do you feel like it's a ruse? What is your relationship? You've

00:05:58 - 00:08:54 | Speaker 1:

been famous for 50 years like what is that um you know so that's a question actually that is surprising me but not now because it's been coming up it's surprising that it has been coming up of late and I'm sort of wondering what is in the zeitgeist and what is I think because with with internet sensations and tiktok stars and reality shows and right and you ask a kid what they want to be when they grow up and they say famous you know you used to be I want to be a doctor or I want to be this I think people are starting to really look at fame differently like what does it really mean right and and is it good is it bad is it purposeful is it because it doesn't it it doesn't rely on the same criteria that it used to rely on in many ways um and infamous and famous is also, you know what I mean? Like that sort of the relationship between those two things, I think is very different in this day and age and for this next generations coming up. What I have, I used to fight it. I used to try to shy away from it, try to hide it, don't want to revel in it, don't want to own it because it just came with too much and it felt like it was cannibalizing my life, right? So I fought for to be regular and I fought to have real friends and I fought, fought, fought. I'd get an education and all those things. And you kind of come to this, I've had to come to this conclusion that it's not going away. And I now look at it as a business. And when I was able to sort of make that switch in my head, I didn't resent it anymore. And yes, I still want privacy. And I, you know, I'm always amazed at how people don't listen when they're, you know, they come up and they have to tell their story to you. And, you know, I knew you, I had your jeans or your doll or your this, and you were in my locker and you're like, and you could be literally saying like, I'm actually bleeding out right now. And if I don't get to the hospital, I probably will die right here. And it's going to be ugly and really messy. And you could literally have a narrative that is that. And they go, I know, right? And you and my sister and this, and you're just like, wow, people really need to just make it about them in that moment. And they're desperate for it. And that used to make me crazy. you know and it used to be and then and then the selfie and the autograph and you're just kind of going like there's nothing to do with me it's all about you then I just sort of stopped and said okay first of all let's have empathy for those people because yeah if this is the most

00:08:54 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 1:

exciting thing this happens to them like I feel bad you know if I'm it you know or if that moment is so important to them, let them have it. But also, you know, say, thank you, but I have to catch a plane or whatever it is. And you can be kind and you can still protect yourself. But as an actress, you know, I've had to look at it more as a commodity element and use it and access it and pick up that phone call and call an executive. And, you know, where I never would have done it. I was, you know, only be humble and be smaller and be everybody, you know, don't, you know, walk onto a set and be, I have to walk onto a set and I can be kind and have wonderful work ethic, but I'm the boss and I have to act like it. And owning that power or that fame or whatever you want to call it has given it this its purpose to me in a very different way

00:10:00 - 00:12:54 | Speaker 2:

and you know it got me a pickup on a show you know I mean and I know it did because of all the publicity I did and the people wanted you know and I thought okay don't resent it it's not taking from your life if you can harness it appropriately and don't ever overuse it but use it correctly and fairly you can have a long longer career you know and I think that that's been only in older years wow you know so it's it's it's a little it took me a while because in a way I was like oh that's ew but then I started looking at it as an executive producer and as a as someone you know I was talking to the head of the uh the union and we were at an AFL CIO event which was all the different unions and the presidents of all the unions and actors equity was there and I went as the president and this one woman is just such a dynamo and she runs all I mean, she runs the automotive union and the construction workers union. And she's just this lovely mom and this beautiful, like, she's just a great person. And she said to me, she called me up one day and she's like, I have to tell you something. And I said, okay. She said, you don't step into your power and you deserve to. And you really, really should. And she said, not just as a union leader, because it's the most uncomfortable thing for me, but because it's all about taking the attention and, and speaking on behalf. I can speak on behalf of people and for people, but I'm used to being of the people more. And I think that she said, that's, that's, that's no more. You, you, you've to stand in it and be as big as you can be. And, and I had a therapist who said the same thing. And it was a, it's been a very interesting few years of being okay walking into a room with my head held high and not apologizing you know and I think that that I think many women do experience that yes and and I I want to keep telling them it's not arrogance it's ownership and it's a privilege to be able to have that and yeah that's changed while I've been getting to this sort of stage in my life and I'm taking more risks and I'm and then there's a freedom in it too and it's amazing what people want that from you you know they want they want that they look to it and so you putting

00:12:54 - 00:13:01 | Speaker 2:

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00:13:21 - 00:16:11 | Speaker 1:

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00:16:12 - 00:19:03 | Speaker 2:

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00:19:03 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 2:

going, oh, right. And I could see it for other people always. And I could do exactly what you're saying. I could say, step into your power, know your worth, organize for more. Our unions deserve a raise. People deserve healthcare. Everyone deserves rights. And it took me until the last couple of years to realize i can inhale and expand and speak out power more power for us i take it away from myself in every second all the time and i and i am currently in a season where i am trying to recalibrate my relationship with and my comfort with who i am like i can look at every woman in my life and say you are first name and last name. Can I say that about myself?

00:20:00 - 00:20:38 | Speaker 3:

And it is a really interesting moment to go, oh, I'm sort of an expert analyst at systems that affect us negatively in the world. And I have not given myself the same grace to look at the way I have been impacted by a system that wants to take worth away from women. Whoa. Yeah. It's a crazy moment, and it's really cool to hear you talking about owning your power when you walk in a room, because I've thought of you as this gorgeous, powerful person for as long as I've known you.

00:20:40 - 00:23:40 | Speaker 2:

I mean, I think that's a common thing. I think women are so used to holding other people up and taking care of and supporting and you know you you you spend it all and then you don't have it for yourself and it's like yeah yeah her but and you were a part of the like somehow not a part of the club yeah and I think you know I also humility isn't interesting being humble and being I always thought that that was the key and I had I had a trainer once who said I will never teach my children to be humble And I said, wow, I always thought that that was a good thing. I thought those who weren't humble were arrogant. And he said, I'm not saying you have to be bad or arrogant or mean or stuck up or anything like that. But you walk into a room leading with being humble and you've just made yourself smaller. You can be gracious. You can be thankful. you can be humbled by seeing something unbelievable that's beautiful or that's something in a child you know that is that is being brought to the to the core of that's not bad healthy humility maybe healthy humility and and willingness to willingness to celebrate yourself because how do we expect others to do it if we don't you know and you think I mean, I used to think, oh, I'll self-deprecate and then they'll like me and then they'll stick up for me. And then you start believing your self-deprecation and then you start actually being self-deprecated to yourself. And then you're like, oh, wait a minute. And then you're mad because you feel less than. And it's very, it's the opposite of arrogance. And it's taken me quite some time. And listen, it served me in the beginning. Do you know what I mean? Because people did like me and they did want to work with me and I did make friends. And it did put people at ease at first when they first met me because I was famous and they weren't or whatever. And it's a shtick, you know, and it's funny at times, but as I've gotten older, it just doesn't fit the same way yeah and and and that's freeing too you know but it it's kind of daily you sort of have to I have to work on it daily because I'll fall right into the pattern again so quickly and I I was this is a crazy story I broke my femur and I was a couple of few years ago and I was on the ground in a gym and I just finished this like crazy two-week challenge that I don't

00:23:40 - 00:24:21 | Speaker 2:

know I needed to do it for whatever reason and the paramedics are there and I'm on the ground and I mean I'm in the kind of pain that is unfathomable I mean like like animal sounds are coming out of me and I could see the paramedic recognize me in that moment he recognized me and without missing a friggin beat as in pain as I was I started to say something like not Blue Lagoon but like something Berkshildsey right yeah to like because I saw it in his eye

00:24:21 - 00:24:24 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, you were going to crack the joke that always plays well.

00:24:24 - 00:24:42 | Speaker 2:

Right. And within a second, my trainer grabs my shoulder and he goes, hey. And I kind of looked up. He goes, you don't have to do that. Stop it. And it was that moment that then I ended up being just able to just, I think I passed out because of the pain.

00:24:43 - 00:25:41 | Speaker 1:

But it was, I thought, wow, this is so hardwired into me. Yes. I'm even doing it with a broken femur and I'm dying. They didn't know if I was in internal bleeding or like, it was so, so dire and serious. And I did it even that second. And this was like five years ago, maybe. And I remember like waking up in the hospital and being in excruciating pain and they wouldn't give me another x-ray. And I finally said, look, if you want me to be a hysterical female, I can do it. I said, I'm really good at it. And I said, but give me another x-ray. Thank God I did because my bone had popped off the device. and I thought self-advocacy and not, don't do it anymore. Just stop, just, it's not, it's not attractive either. It's not good for your girls, you know?

00:25:41 - 00:25:44 | Speaker 2:

You don't have to poke fun at yourself to make other people comfortable.

00:25:45 - 00:25:59 | Speaker 1:

And it's hard. It's hard. And, you know, again, there is a shtick in it that kind of does serve you in a way, but it doesn't feel like it fits anymore. and that's been really kind of eye-opening for me in this era of my life.

00:25:59 - 00:26:55 | Speaker 2:

Well, when you talk about how it doesn't fit and it's a new era and there is a new job and you've said, you are the boss. You are the executive producer. You, by the way, fought to defend the title of your show and I love that it stuck. You're Killing Me is, it's the perfect phrase. It's the perfect joke. it's it's also a little bit of spice in the cozy core mystery world you know for those of us who were raised on Angela Lansbury like I love that you have managed to thread this needle for yourself and I'm really curious did you set kind of intentions for this on day one because you've been on this journey of, oh, the old shtick doesn't fit? Did you go into this job a new version of

00:26:55 - 00:29:54 | Speaker 1:

yourself? Very much so. And I was spearheading the whole thing. I mean, I reached out to the showrunner and I'd worked with her multiple times and I knew she got my humor and I knew her writing was smart. And I called her and I said, look, I know we've done movies and episodes here and there of things I said but let's let's write a let's create a show let's find a vehicle and and she was like well mysteries are very popular right now and only murders in the building and matlock and murder she wrote and all of those that kind of it's kind of coming back and it's this cozy mystery sort of a thing and I said you know there's a huge appeal and it is very much a big chunk of my audience and I said let's and we just started talking and brainstorming and I said you know I'm fascinated by generational differences and and I have I have kids who make fun of me and they are in their 20s and it's funny but it's also we both teach each other so I we brought that kind of put in the mystery world she came up with this this sort of idea of this character. And every step of the way, I knew I was going to be an executive producer, but I'd never been an executive producer that had that much say. And that, you know, AMC would call me and say, what do you think about this? Or how about this director and these actors? And what about this? And they actually wanted my opinion. And I fought for things. I fought for the title. I fought to keep the humor in, you know, they get very safe with me. They want me to just be non-offensive and pretty and, and not, you know, that works, you know, just keep her, keep her likable. And, and, and I'm like, no, the reason why these characters aren't likable is because they're flawed and they're funny. And we're not doing bloody gory. We're doing Agatha Christie. We're doing a little bit of, you know, a little wink without taking you out of it, But we're doing things that are relationship-oriented. And these people you care about. I mean, yes, there's a body that's going to drop every week, right? Sleepy little town, little fishing, safe little fishing town. Good Cove. We love it. But I walked into this whole thing. I pitched it with her. We pitched it to AMC and AMC Acorn. And from every step of the way, I watched them look at me differently and look at my history and my experience and nostalgia and fame and all of those pieces put together. And then I worked my ass off for the show and for the edit and for the PR. And I said, you know, you guys have the capacity and the capability to make this a hit or not. I will do everything I can

00:29:54 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 1:

and I know I can get the publicity and get the outlets I mean

00:30:00 - 00:31:25 | Speaker 2:

To be on these competing shows, I don't know how the press department did that, but, you know, normally if you do one, you can't do the other and everybody owns you. And it just, I kind of really looked at it and I walked on to the set every day and I set an example and you watched it in the electrics, you watched it in the gaffers, you watched it in the dolly pull you know and guys these crunchy old guys would come up you know came up to me and said you know you really make this an enjoyable place to be and you make me laugh every day and it's really good we want to like and these guys have been pulling cable for you know 50 years you know what I mean and and they've seen it all and and there was such respect for the way that I set the tone for the set and people worked extra hard. And it was just, it was so great to sort of be able to be that example and feel really, not feel arrogant about it, but just feel like I did earn the right to have these opinions and also say like, please prove me wrong and I will defer to your expertise and I love that and I will learn as well and that's important too because it doesn't mean I'm always right you know yeah and now a

00:31:25 - 00:33:08 | Speaker 3:

word from our sponsors this is for those who experience allergic reactions from food medicine insects or other allergy triggers I want to tell you about nephi the only needle-free epinephrine nasal spray for those who weigh 33 pounds or more. It's used for the emergency treatment of allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. And Nephi works as well as a needle injector and delivers the same trusted epinephrine in a nasal spray. It's designed to be safe and easy to use at the first sign of symptoms. So in a high stress moment, your child or someone else can act quickly to treat an allergic reaction, even if you are not there. Neffy is also small, discreet, and easy to carry, including in a backpack or a lunchbox or a sports bag, so your child is prepared anywhere the day takes them. You can pay as little as zero dollars for at least four Neffy devices, two packs, through the copay savings program with commercial insurance if eligible. Patients should not pay more than $199 for Neffy. If you have medical conditions or take certain medicines, your condition may worsen. So tell your doctor about nasal, heart, thyroid, or kidney issues, high blood pressure, Parkinson's, diabetes, if you're pregnant or breastfeeding, and any and all medications. Side effects include nasal discomfort, headache, runny nose, shakiness, and throat irritation. Those are not all side effects. If your child needs a new epinephrine prescription or refill, don't wait. Ask your doctor about Needle-Free Neffy today. visit neffy.com that's n-e-f-f-y dot com or call 1-877-MY-NEFFY to learn more

00:33:08 - 00:34:19 | Speaker 1:

stay safe out there zolaire omelizumab is proven to significantly reduce allergic reactions if a food allergy accident happens zolaire 150 milligrams is a prescription medication used to treat food allergy in people one year of age and older to reduce allergic reactions due to accidental exposure to one or more foods. While taking Zolaire, you should continue to avoid all foods to which you are allergic. Don't use if you are allergic to Zolaire. Zolaire may cause a severe life-threatening allergic reaction called anaphylaxis. Tell your doctor if you have ever had anaphylaxis. Get help right away if you have trouble breathing or if you have swelling of your throat or tongue. Zolaire should not be used for the emergency treatment of allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. Zolaire is for maintenance use to reduce allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, while avoiding food allergens. Serious side effects such as cancer, fever, muscle aches, and rash, parasitic infection, or heart and circulation problems have been reported. Please see Zolaire.com for full prescribing information. Ask an allergist about Zolaire. This is an advertisement for Zolaire paid for by Genentech and Novartis.

00:34:19 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 3:

friends the trump administration and its backers in congress are messing around with our health care they have already passed a law supposedly defunding planned parenthood which blocks medicaid patients from getting life-saving care like cancer screenings wellness exams birth control sti treatment and more and now these lawmakers want to shut down health centers by defunding Planned Parenthood permanently. Our communities deserve better. To learn how you can get involved, text the word UPDATE to 22422. Boehm is a boutique fashion brand that curates effortlessly feminine.

00:35:00 - 00:37:40 | Speaker 2:

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00:37:40 - 00:39:01 | Speaker 1:

you know I've learned a lot from like my husband in and the writing room you know and you you know they write it write a script and then put it to the room and and they're all around a table and what about this is a joke or what if he did this or what if she said this or and it becomes it's augmented and the power of all of it the collective and nobody is fighting for their idea just because it's their idea the best idea does does make it into the script you know and so I mean how cool yeah and I think that's great I mean writing books too and having a really good editor and not and having an editor that doesn't just say well write this instead they have a series of questions that they choose to pose to you so that my the editors that I've had that I've really enjoyed working with have given me the ability to come up with the best way to say something because they've asked certain questions of me and helped guide me into thinking about it differently instead of saying, here, write this, you know, and that I think is in most creative endeavors if you're lucky, you know. I love that. What do you want the friends listening

00:39:01 - 00:39:15 | Speaker 2:

at home to know about the show obviously everyone if you've been living under a rock you're killing me is on acorn tv it's such it's just such like a delicious thing to watch first of all it's you

00:39:15 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 1:

really hook into these two women and they're how they are navigating together from coming from very different lives and experiences and ages and and i think that first of all people have a hard time finding acorn it's really easy to do you just go on to whatever you you stream through whether it's like roku or whatever yeah and search and then you can search the show or search apple you can even go on to amazon i think and you can find it but it it's there and it's like it pops up first so that's been interesting to try to help educate people on how to get acorn because not everybody has acorn yeah yeah but is that you can watch it with

00:40:00 - 00:40:32 | Speaker 2:

types of people like you don't you can watch it with your kids you can watch it with a partner you can and it's just entertainment and you will laugh and you will have your heartstrings pulled every now and then and you will you know it it's a great escape it's you know it's 45 minutes or whatever with commercials or whatever and it's just you kind of watch it and you leave feeling lighter because you forgot everything. And that's crazy in the world. You mean an enjoyable TV

00:40:32 - 00:40:37 | Speaker 3:

watching experience? Remember those? I know. Remember those? And you just sort of feel like,

00:40:37 - 00:41:14 | Speaker 2:

oh, I feel like I just took a yoga class or something, you know, and you've laughed and you've cried. It's better than cats. And it's just a, it's a feel good. They say cozy mysteries. And I don't know. I mean, that gets kind of a little schmaltzy in my opinion, the way that sounds, but, but it's definitely, you know, there's room for just entertainment and it's okay to laugh and it's okay to, you know, and we're not, it's not gory. You don't get a sick feeling in your stomach, you know, like so much of it that I watch and I'm just like, oh God. And it just makes you

00:41:14 - 00:41:37 | Speaker 3:

feel good. I love that. There's so much that you've done and I, I know you're not, I know you're not hanging anything up anytime soon. So when you think about, you know, how life feels right now and how fulfilling it is, what feels like your work in progress still? I mean, probably

00:41:37 - 00:43:27 | Speaker 2:

everything. I mean, you know, I'm gearing up for the second season and already I'm, I'm already fighting. It's just like already having conversations like, no, we have to get the writer's room started two weeks earlier not two weeks later yeah yeah no we have to build the sets but it was like all these things but I think I'm I think where I am a work in progress is giving myself um a little bit more of a pat on the back and knowing that I really do have to take care of myself um and that means sleeping and that means physically and because I will run so I mean look at my arm I'm in a huge cast what happened my muscle was starting to attach itself around a nerve and killing the nerve and I was losing feeling in my hands and you know you don't want to be it you don't want to be the crazy lady you know and I finally just said to this doctor I was like can you do all the tests please because turns out something's up something was up and you know better about your body so I think where I am a work in progress is not really not being afraid to speak up for myself and for things that don't feel right to me and not saying yes to absolutely everything. Cause I just, I'm tired. I'm just tired. I know. I really am. And you know, it's okay. You don't owe anybody anything, you know? I mean, yes, our kids, but, but that it's, it's comes from a different place, you know, but I think this obligatory yes-ness, you know, it's just, doesn't feel good anymore, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that's,

00:43:28 - 00:43:56 | Speaker 3:

I think that might be my work in progress too, my friend. Wow. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, well, I love it. I mean, for everyone at home, catch up on the whole season of your killing me on acorns yeah it's like it's perfect it's it's it's like a great weekend of being entertained and then we can all be ready for season two to come out yes thank you I'm just

00:43:56 - 00:44:17 | Speaker 2:

so happy for you so much and I just I'm so happy this is a this is a piece of what you're doing right now because I think not only could I listen to your voice always forever um but you have so much to say and you're so smart and lovely and it's and I'm glad people are getting to experience it. Thanks honey.

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