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friends the trump administration and its backers in congress are messing around with our health care they have already passed a law supposedly defunding planned parenthood which blocks medicaid patients from getting life-saving care like cancer screenings wellness exams birth control sti treatment and more and now these lawmakers want to shut down health centers by defunding Planned Parenthood permanently. Our communities deserve better. To learn how you can get involved, text the word UPDATE to 22422. If you want your guests to ask, wait, where is this from? Tea Forte is the perfect place to start. Known for their signature pyramid tea infusers topped with the iconic leaf, Tea Forte delivers premium blends served in luxury hotels and restaurants around the world. beyond the tea itself the beautifully designed packaging curated gift sets and tea chests make every day feel elevated from brunches to dinner parties birthdays to thank you gifts tea forte turns everyday hosting and gifting into something effortlessly refined memorable and genuinely special shop now at tea forte.com or on amazon bohm is a boutique fashion brand that curates effortlessly feminine trend forward clothing for women who want to feel confident, stylish, and comfortable without compromising quality or affordability. With BOEM, you'll find outfits that work for every plan on your calendar from day to night. Simple styling, elevated results, and looks you'll reach for again and again and again. Their designs are made to last and won't break the bank. Shop now at BOEM.com. That's B-O-H-M-E dot com. Hi, everyone. It's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. We're back for part two with Dr. B. Let's get back on stage. i know for you women's health is a big life calling you launched the white house initiative on women's health research why why was that the next right thing for you as the first lady well

you know i was in i was in the white house i was grading papers it was a saturday i think it was near Easter. And Maria Shriver came in, First Lady of California, I'm sure you know her, and former First Lady. And so we started talking about women's health. And she said to me, Jill, do you realize that all the research until the mid-1990s has been done on men? No women in those studies, no research, men. So all the diagnoses we would get, all the prescription medicines were based on men, their, you know, physiques, their weights, etc. Oh, and even the mice were male mice. How can you, I mean.

How can you study menopause in a male mouse? I mean, right? It's crazy. So anyway, so I went to Joe after Maria and I spoke. I went up to him, and, you know, I said, Joe, there's a big problem, and we have to solve it. And he said, you're right. So, I mean, this is what I love about Joe. He took a problem, and he tackled it, and he, you know, found an answer. So we started the White House Women's Initiative on Health, And in one year, we put a billion dollars into funding and research for women's health. And, you know, we've got to keep going. Women have to keep fighting for ourselves. We do. I mean, in all areas, which I'm sure you agree, in all the social areas, we have to keep fighting. The things that have been taken away from us, we can't give up. I'm a 60s girl. A lot of you girls or women here who were in the 60s, look what we had to fight for. Equal rights, equal pay, women's sports. How about money for women's sports? I mean, so much that we fought for, and we got to an extent, but now it seems like it's rolling back. So we have to say to the younger women, come on, take up the mantle and move forward. I mean, I'm just, you can tell I'm passionate about it. Oh, I'm with you.

You know, and I think it's so important that we all know the stats. I mean, ladies, we need to know, but also, like, shout out to all the guys here. You're here to listen to two ladies talk. Like, you're on the right side of history, and you should know these facts. You know, you saw us through some of those fights. I am part of the first American generation of truly free women. The first. 1974, you couldn't, until 1973, obviously Roe, which they took. 1974 was when you could finally lease an apartment on your own, I believe. 1988 was the first time a woman could get a bank loan by herself. 1993 was the first time we were included in a clinical trial, and guess what? It's also the same year we could finally wear pants on the floor of Congress. 1993. like when you think about how it's been a hot second yeah and by the way we couldn't even get the era ratified because by the time we got the 48th state to sign it all the bros in the halls of government were like took too long we're not going to let you have it so the idea that we've even been totally free is a ruse but but we've made like just close enough to equal progress that they're panicking. And now the trad wives are on Instagram and now they're like, women shouldn't vote. And I'm like, excuse you, we had a revolution about this. Like, what? So that feels like everybody gets a little bit of info to take home. You're welcome. For your initiative, when I saw you doing this investing work, I was so excited about it because it's been an area of importance for me. I am so lucky to be in a community of incredible women. I'm so lucky to have intergenerational friendships with incredible women who've shared their stories. And the disparities in healthcare, not just for women, but for women of color are insane. And it only can happen because there's so little money for us in general. So just a few more things for you

to take home. You're welcome. Well, wait a minute. It was in 1974. That was about when I got my first teaching job. Anyway, I got my first teaching job and I was telling you this. Anyway, I forget who I was telling you. But anyway. It's been a long book tour. You're doing great. Okay. So the same week that I was hired, I was hired in an English department. I got $7,500 my first job. A man in the same English department, same job, you know what he got? 10,000. Yes. Yes. Crazy. Yeah. And I went to buy a car. Guess what? They made my father co-sign. Yes. Yeah. They made my father co-sign for me. Yes. I mean, you know, here I had my own teaching job. I was so proud. And then they're saying, uh-uh, get your father. Yeah. And that's the thing. The independence didn't matter

because the policy hadn't caught up. And the women's health investing in particular is honestly a crisis we have to solve. Only 1 to 3% of all private healthcare research and development dollars go to conditions that affect women. So we're 51% of the population. There's literally more of us. Everyone came from us. And we get 1% of the money, the math is not mathing. Less than 2% of private health care investments and capital target women-specific conditions. And only 5% of all overall global R&D is dedicated to women's health. So when, you know, you're hopefully signed up on the Five Calls app to bug your elected officials, bug them about this also, and encourage them to continue the work of the Biden's Health Care Initiative on Women, because we should. We should. Now, I have so many more questions. I'm looking at the timer. I'm starting to panic. Okay, we're going to be fine. I'm curious, because I know out of that. I got to see you guys talk about it at CGI a couple years ago. I know the Cancer Moonshot initiative is so deeply personal for your family, and I'm curious, in the years since you announced the research funding and the Moonshot, are there any really exciting developments you want to share with people? Because health hardship is terrifying, and sometimes when we have good news? I feel like we should shout it from the rooftops. Yeah. I mean, there are a lot of

advancements in cancer. I, you know, cancer has been rampant really in my family. Both my parents died from it. My sister had a stem cell transplant with, because of lymphoma and lived. She's great. And then, you know, our son, Beau, died of glioblastoma, which was really tough. I mean, we did everything we could. I mean, everything, the diet, the, I mean, going to different trials, getting him on different medicines. And, you know, it was just one of those things that I just, as a mother, I mean, I just never, ever, ever believed that, you know, God would take him. And now, I mean, there's this cruel irony with the cancer moonshot and all that we've done for cancer and will continue to do that my husband, you know, ended up with stage four prostate cancer, which is bad enough. But But I want to tell the men here in the audience that prostate cancer, they do have a cure for it. I mean, you can be cured from that. Unfortunately for Joe, it metastasized to his bones. And that just changed the whole ballgame. And so now Joe will live, I mean, his whole life will, he will live with cancer, which means that he's on really strong medicines that make him really tired and you know have such strong side effects and so we keep fighting and you know and there's so much that really that we're going to continue to do and I you know people cannot forget to go get their screenings I mean I think in COVID everybody was scared to death to go into a hospital a doctor's office. And so the screenings went way down. But I want you all to think about this if you can. Think about all of you who are, should be getting like a mammogram or a DEXA, you know, the bone scan. You just stick your hand in an x-ray machine. It doesn't hurt or anything. prostate cancer, breast cancer. You know, you may not know this, but in the early 1990s, four of my friends were diagnosed with breast cancer. And I thought, oh, my God, what can I do? I have to do something. And I thought, I'm not a doctor, but, well, I am a doctor.

you're a doctor. So I developed a program. I went into every school in the state of Delaware, and it was so long ago. In Dover High School, they made the girls have a permission slip because we were saying the word breast. Honest to God, that's the truth. And anyway, we went in with breast models, and we showed women what it felt like, you know, a lumpy breast, or if you could feel something in your breast and we taught them uh good health practices and um anyway I did that I think for 20 years wow and then I you know I finally had to stop because I was second lady but um that was my beginning of work you know trying to fight against awareness and

prevention, which I think is really where we should be focusing is prevention with all these cancers. So think about it. Think about getting your screening if you haven't. And I know it's hard. And I know you're afraid, a lot of you. But you're going to be more afraid if you get that

negative diagnosis like Joe got. Yeah. Well, we all wish him very well. I know. Please tell him Boston said happy anniversary. And thank you. I mean, frankly, we're very lucky that he lent you to us on your anniversary. It's like we got a gift. So I hope we can send some real positivity his way. And I think it's a really amazing thing that you've chosen not only to do the advocacy work, but so many of these moments that are so devastating for families, as you've shared. You, as a family, have shared with our families, and you've made us all feel less alone in grief or illness, and I'm guessing I can speak for everyone in the room in this moment when I say thank you. Oh, thank you. Because to know you're not alone in that, that also helps save people.

Well, everybody's touched by cancer. I bet every person in this auditorium has been touched by cancer, by someone they love or themselves.

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Well, I never thought of it that way, but definitely for me, and I'll just speak for myself as a former first lady, I felt that when Americans, something tragic had happened, like Uvalde, horrible, Maui, the fires in Maui, Surfside in Florida. I mean, there were so many times when Joe and I would go and sit with families and just talk to them and empathize and about grief. And I just think that's part of the role of a first lady and a president to take care of people who are experiencing grief and loss. And so.

Well, it's just such a gorgeous act of compassion. We miss it. I miss compassion so much. You know, you have spent 50 years together. You share wonderful pieces of your relationship. I love that he had to propose five times. I'm like, good for you, Dr. V. But you also share about your female friendships. You know, you talk about your sisterhood. You also talk about the peculiar...

your pressure placed on women in the first place. You write in the book about this, and I think most women, while we've never been the first lady, we get this part. You say that being the first lady could feel like a catch-22 because you're encouraged to use your platform to do good but not be too aggressive in pursuing policy goals lest you be seen as overreaching. And if you knew too little about what you were talking about or maybe pretended to to not be overreaching, I don't know, then you're like some kind of embarrassment. So the balancing act, you know, your story is specific, but the balancing act I think is very universal for us. How have you figured out how to do that? And are your female friendships kind of the key? Well, I think they probably are the

key. And I think every first lady has done the role a different way. I mean, if you remember Rosalind Carter sat in on cabinet meetings and I don't remember that she was criticized for that it was just like that was part of their partnership and so she did God forbid I should sit in on a cabinet meeting because then it would look I mean I was criticized I went to one in four years that I walked in to talk about women's health for like 10 minutes and so it's true you can't know too much or know too little or be aggressive or not aggressive enough. So it is a fine line. And, you know, it's nice to, I mean, I always felt like so supported by really the women in my friendships. I mean, they've meant the world to me. Of course, as you know, I have four sisters. And, but the cool thing is like, I've been supported like my friends, Mary Ann, her sister-in-law is here, or Annie and her parents are here, people that are just, have been, and people in my staff are in this audience who work for me, like, yeah, BP, I mean, you know, and I've always felt that support, and it's a really important part of my life, and I don't know whether it came, it stems from growing up with four sisters and being so close to my mother and my grandmothers. I mean, it just was, I mean, my poor dad, honest to God, he said, even the cat is a female. But he felt overwhelmed, but he handled it okay. He could hold his own.

I love it. When you think about inspirational women, who inspires you these days?

Oh my gosh. There are so many inspirational women. Today, for instance, I just wrote a note to Billie Jean King. Greatest. Does anybody know why? She got her college degree. Yes. And she got her college degree. It was in the paper. You must have missed it. But I thought, good for you. I mean, remember that tennis match, and she was the winner. I mean, I love... 1973. Yes. I love female athletes and what they're doing, because I feel like, you know, having gone through the title nine and money for women's sports that women's sports is finally coming into its own and I love that so they inspire me and the women I think you know in women's in health research I mean these young scientists that are making all these discoveries for endometriosis osteoporosis I mean some of you in here are maybe a little bit older and I know is now this new and hot topic, no pun intended, is menopause. So now we're centering on that. But I have to tell you, I mean, I'm past that. I'm like this next wave. And I told my daughter, I'm in my last quarter, and she's like, Mommy, don't say that. But anyway, there are all these women post-menopause who are like, is this normal? I mean, the things that we are now experiencing in our 60s and our 70s and our 80s, like we don't have answers. We don't have answers. It's because the mice are men. Yes. Hello. So there has to be a national conversation about aging so that when something happens to you or your spouse, you don't say, what the heck is this? that we have facts, and we know where we're going. We've got to start this as Americans. Yeah. We do. Yeah.

Especially when you think about, you know, this notion that this is a country built on a dream, right? The American dream doesn't stop because you retire. That should be your best life.

Yeah.

If you get to retire, you should be, like, living.

it up. I want you to be having a time. And you're right. You shouldn't be looking around going, what's happening to me? And does anyone care? You know, it should shift. Yeah, it should. I have a couple of just like quick little fun questions for our last few minutes, if I may. You're not in the fishbowl anymore, but there are still lots of people with the badges around. Thank God for them. Honest to God. Thank God. Oh, they're so wonderful. They're so great. I had to run back into my dressing room to grab something and like four dudes turned. I was like, it's just me. Just hobgobbling around. I just needed my papers. Please don't tackle me. Honestly, they're so kind. I just can't thank them enough. All of them. Thank you. Thank you, Secret Service. Pretty incredible team you have. Yeah. What does a typical day look like now? Like, do you open windows? How often do you go for a walk?

Well, actually, we do have bulletproof glass in the back of our house because now we have to, right? Because there's, like, a lot of craziness. Oh, yeah. But a typical day, I'm an early riser. I love the morning. And so I get up early. And we have two new black lab puppies. Okay. So here's a quiz question. Their names are Scout and Boo. Where does it come from? To kill a mockingbird. Yes, good. Some of you are readers. I love that. So anyway, so I make sure the dogs and Willow are all fed and taken care of. And then I just sit and have quiet and just appreciate really my life and what I've been given and the opportunities. And then I go to exercise every morning, and I went this morning to bar, and if you know bar three. Wow. So I cycle, I do bar, Pilates, you know, I'm a big exerciser. And then I have like a ton of things to do between women's health and writing, and you know, Joe's writing his book, He's Always Home, I always have to make him breakfast, he's a terrible cook. So the day is full. Usually my kids, my grandkids are in and out of the house. They're bringing their friends. I mean, half the time, I don't even know who's sleeping in my house. Because they just come with their friends. And that's the way I want it. That's the way it's always been. And everybody's welcome. And so anyway, that's my life.

I love that. I think a full house is kind of a dream. Yeah. True. Yeah. Yeah.

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that you've coined, soul cycle diplomacy? Oh, this is so much fun. So when I would go to foreign countries, I would still cycle, because they have SoulCycle all over the world, and so it was, we were in England, and so I cycled there with, Rishi, I'm thinking ahead of, thank you, and so anyway, we cycled together, sorry I had just one of those moments, and then in Paris, I went to the cycle center, and so I would always invite people to cycle with me. I mean, leaders of foreign countries. And sometimes they came and sometimes they didn't. But it was so fun to go because even in France, and you know, I don't really know French that well, but you just follow the person ahead of you and you just do what they do. And you know, it was just, it was just funny. So, and it was fun and it was a way to connect on a different level. And so, and, you know, Sophie Trudeau and I, I mean, just, we just, it's another way to connect with people that isn't like stuffy and, you know, that you just go have fun. So that's

what SoulCycle Diplomacy was. Well, it strikes me as you bringing some of that normalcy to an extraordinary situation, or perhaps itinerary is the word I should have used. I have another little pop culture question because I did hear that you just went and saw Bono at the Sphere and I do know because you know you did admit it once and now everything we've ever said is on the internet yeah I do know he is your celebrity crush that's true and I know like in the world

Should we say this on my anniversary, though? Joe's not here. He's not here. I know in the world, like most people would say, I'm intimidated by a rock star. But does a president...

I didn't get intimidated by a rock star. No, not at all. I didn't think so, but I needed to know. No. But can I tell you the Bono story? Yes. Please. Okay, so it was... So anyway, Joe and Bono started out as friends. And so Bono would come to the White House. And when he's talking to you, all he does is speak poetry. He just recites poetry. I mean, his soul is so beautiful. And he does so many good things in the world. I mean, he's a humanitarian. He's really a good, decent man. So Anthony took me to the sphere for my birthday one year. We were out there for something, probably campaigning. And so U2 was there. And so Bono said, come on backstage and meet the band and meet my wife, et cetera. This is the beautiful thing. So before they go on stage, they get in a circle, and they pray. And that's what we did. We got in a circle, we held hands, and we prayed before they went out on stage. Then they go out and they play this crazy rock music and everything. And then the last song of the night, he dedicated it to me. Come on. I love it. I love it. Now you see why. Yeah. I mean, we won't tell Joe.

You know, you can tell him tomorrow. After everything you have experienced as a teacher, a mother, a wife, a first lady, a memoirist, what's that?

I love that word, memoirist.

I know, isn't it? It feels, it has a nice mouthfeel.

Yeah. What's your favorite word?

Oh, my favorite word? I mean, not to be cheesy, probably love. Love. Oh, what a great answer. Yeah. Oh, my God. You know what other word, though, has one of my favorite mouthfeels? What? My favorite word in Spanish, izquierda. Esquieta. What does that mean? Is it right or left? It is left, right? Okay, great. She doesn't know what that is. No. By the way, I just started my Spanish lessons on Duolingo. I did take French, and I'm not good at that either. but like the word just saying it I'm like that like I don't need to it sounds sexy to me and it feels nice and it means left but you know I think progressives are sexy so maybe we're on to something here I don't know

what's your least favorite word well we all know that

we know I think we share it you've done so much, you know, you, you've like, you've just lived this big, beautiful life and you've set an example for so many of us. And, and, you know, you've checked so many things off the list, the bucket list, you've soul cycled with, you know, foreign leaders. But I'm curious with all the things you've done and everything you have to be so proud of, what in your life still

feels like a work in progress. Oh, everything. I mean, everything is still a work in progress. I mean, I'm not giving up. And I don't know. I still have a lot to do. I just, you know, like I said, my teaching, I want to, I do want to do stuff with women's health. I do want to do prevention of cancer. I do, you know, going into the prisons. I just, I have a lot to do. Plus garden. Plus garden. Me too. Oh, I didn't know you were a gardener. Oh, yeah. Okay, we'll talk afterwards. We have a lot to discuss. We'll talk flowers, yeah. I need your tips because I've been a West

Coast gardener my whole life and now I'm an East Coast gardener and I'm like, what is winter? Yeah. My plants. I know. Okay, we can talk. This will be for later, but for now, we're out of time and those are all my questions. Oh my gosh, we are. I know. This has been so much fun. Thank you for coming. Thank you for coming. Thank you. Thank you.

One, two, three. Yay! Sophia! Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thanks for being here.

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